Bratishkanvkz
The fact that the manufacturer is not so massive, on Yandex Market - one single offer. 360 For me, a little more than the noreney, in the event of what - where to write-call? With Xiaomi trite chances are more on parts / support / repair. Well, plus the height of 360 s7 - 10cm is critical. So on the basis of any reviews and tests - on average, it turns out that either F9 or LDS, well, or something else but also from Xiaomi subbrends apparently (although someone else has any representative office and service, but suspect that Not so well presented) ... I plan to work in Russia, without any aliexpress ...

Water pouring is not a problem, the restriction by the one where the wet cleaning is to do, and where it is not necessary - it is not necessary at all, for 63 meters only 4 meters of rigid rugs that will not be anything from the water.

PS: I saw that I was already answered about the choice between LDS and F9. But still I would like to understand about the boundary conditions ... F9 It seems to be better in everything, but I'm afraid to fight everything in a row and get lost in space, especially under the beds ... And this would not want it. Suddenly he had experience with both devices in similar conditions ...

Post has been editedPanteras. - 08.01.21, 20:20

Advise the dice which inexpensive to take, otherwise I read what the troubles are found with the regions? While the choice between G1 and 1C. Need Support Mikhoum and (or) Alice

Guys, what can you say for Xiaomi Trouver LDS? With a promotion for 18k, you can take. By search, I did not find anything, according to the characteristics it seems nothing animal. 1s analog as I understand. Is it worth considering buying?

Post has been editedzhorzhik_BY - 08.01.21, 22:21

Panteras,
Well, about Noneney is rather Dreame and Trouver. I bought my 360 in Citylink, it is also sold in Eldorado, MVIDEO, DNS, ozone (but I don't know about ozone with a guarantee), guarantee there. Where to drag DREAME / TROUVER. This is a big question if it bought on Ali. If it happens, it's easier to take something from old models: Ksyova, Viosa, Robor.

Bratishkanvkz
Regarding Nouneam - I meant that 360 was not seen in the production of equipment ... DREAME As far as I understand - Stem Xiaomi and before that, the vacuum cleaners were manual. And in the event of a breakdown, I also carry in the store where I bought. Ali, I also dropped in the previous message - absolutely not an option.

And what do you suggest with my budget and with a wet cleaning? and what it will be better than F9 / LDS

P.S. I learned the topic and I realized that when choosing LDS / F9 always advise F9, and someone wrote that the LDS is still problematic ... Also while I studied the topic I came across the screen of November 22 ... It's amazing how for a month and a half the sentence decreased from 28 to 5 stores, and the minimum price has grown to 4500. I do not understand what it is connected and go further to develop - it will completely disappear from the sale or, on the contrary, there will soon appear more options, it will appear for more than it or cheaper, run to take it left or wait? : scratch_one-s_head:



Post has been editedPanteras. - 08.01.21, 23:22

zhorzhik_BY,
Yes, nobody will say until they boil until the angry reviews continue until childhood diseases are eliminated from the heels of new models. The robot market is still like a sponge - you can pour and pour, the life time of the robot is 3-8 years, depending on anything, much depends on the manufacturer. Because the market is endless, fast, as with smartphones and problems the same, drunkenness are full.

Honestly, I will not tell me (as I think the old models have already been proven as something), since I myself, when he chose a boot, watched the models exclusively with Lidar. Siaomi has a bunch of brands of course in different spheres, but this is not a quality indicator anyway. It is possible that under the wing of Siaomi, there will be some improvements in the future. My mother has a second year (although I seemed to buy only a year ago) I bought the first version of Siaoming with Lidar, awesome, nor a single breakdown and glitch for all time.

Well, in general, yes, we have not been represented at Ali, they are not presented at all (on Amaozon there are their products, and they also seen the reviews for their anthers in the most foreign), although they produce: cameras, regions, smart watches for children, lamps, ordinary Vacuum cleaners

Panteras. , Hello! We recently chose between the same two models as you. As a result, they took F9 after reviews in the internet. Terms of use of approximately plus-minus are the same, differences in the presence of tiles and 11 meters of a larger area of ​​the apartment plus a pair of arrogant mats. LDS refused due to problems with leakage and greater height due to Lidar, despite, perhaps, the best navigation. On YouTube there is a comparison of F9 and Roborock S5 with Lidar - the video is not Russian, but without voice voice acting, just the background music and the visual video sequence of comparison of these dust. How they work and focus in the space of a regular apartment with the application of the maps constructed and their routes (screenshots from applications). Very clearly, perhaps you will understand something in terms of their navigation and orientation in space. I think that LDS with Lidar is about the same way to work as S5 Robor with Lidar. As for F9 already from our personal experience: it does not like darkness very much. We launched it at night - everything was removed, but longer than in the light, in the dark is lost and confused, paints new areas on the map that do not meet the previously built map. They can then reset - the main correct card remains. Under the bed, we have drawers - it is cleaned along them and half off under the bed normally. It is afraid of curtains and tuna. Rather, he carries around their wavy line, as they hang. Although when building a map, we cleaned the curtains - on the map there is a flat line along the wall, but still circles. Perhaps somehow indirectly answered your question with bedspreads. Many objects face a bumper. In a bright cabinet with a mirror to the floor, Yu, but not much. Stoles from the cabinets-coupe recognizes how the threshings are actively closamed to vacuum, quite successfully. On the rugs increases power, recognizes without problems. Cleaning quality is excellent - no complaints. High boards up to 20 mm overcomes easy, rushing like a tank and very carefully climbs into all possible holes. Wet cleaning while they started once - still in the process of acquaintance with him. Wetting in the middle, not the whole rag even on the wet program (the rag itself was watched before that, perhaps it is necessary to clean the same valve in silicone traffic jam, until it disassembled with it). With the set wet nozzle, the lights overcomes worse (it is understandable, the ability is reduced), welcoming mats begin to drag it. On one of the video on YouTube it is demonstrated, and in general it was considered very detailed with recommendations. While something like that. In general, satisfied with very quality cleaning and continue to get acquainted. Forbidden zones - walls have not yet used. The zones work well, the map has noded normally. We want to try to run speaking from above the big closet. I understand that it is necessary to transfer it in the off state and press the point cleaning button, then after it is completed manually transferred to the database. If everything understood everything, so that there were no glitches. We will try. Well, ask questions.

Bratishkanvkz
If you consider your budget, then there is nothing good in this budget at all.
Even expensive models are extremely bad. Real example - ROOMBA S9 В±
Minuses:
- Extremely scant functionality.
- Only dry cleaning. Although for such a price it would be possible to make and wet and a lot of things.
- Extremely fast battery degradation. Familiar and still other familiar battery across the year work was greatly blown away and lost at least 35% of the tank, the battery work was enough only to clean the same room instead of two.
- inadequate price for components. The battery costs ~ 10,000 rubles and it is not always and not everywhere you can find. Other components also have aircraft money.
- A bunch of minuses and restrictions on the functionality in a flat place. For example, discovered that it is impossible to turn off the automatic emptying of the garbage. It also turned out that the robot has no memory. All settings and card at home it stores on the server. If there is no connection to the server, then the robot swells greatly and becomes brick.
- There is no information about work and self-diagnosis.
- There are other disadvantages. About minuses can be told for a long time and tediously.
In general, the robot left an ambiguous impression. Robot full of life and functionality. But to charge it and give him a normal high-quality firmware developers and the manufacturer itself was lazy and family. And in vain.
Therefore, from the advantages, I will note only significant potential, high-quality components, reliable work.
Dry cleaning was so-so. I expected significantly more. Especially for such a price.

If you take all sorts of cheaps, then there is a problem in general:
1. Xiaomi Mi Robot Vacuum Cleaner 1S
Briefly: clumsy and cheap, the bottom of the vacuum cleaner.
Minuses:
- All creaks, the backlash. Haltic assembly. The housing and the robot itself is thin and squirt. Robot is small. Barely crawls around the apartment.
- The application is inadequately rooted. The robot constantly disappeared from the list of devices. I had to reset the settings once a week and re-add it to MI HOME. What is very and very surprising for such a device. For comparison, the legendary lamp Xiaomi Eyecare Phillips No. 2 works stably and reliably already the fourth year and only a couple of times disappeared from the list of devices.
- All mechanisms are thin and flip. On the third week of operation, the right wheel was completely blocked and the robot began to circle on the spot. Foreign objects or hair inside exactly did not fall.
- flies and yells when working. Although there is little sense from such a Ryol. According to my observations in 3 weeks (as long as the robot began to lick on the right foot), the quality of cleaning is many worse than that of ROOMBA S9 В±. Dust in those places where stably removed S9 В± and remained lying. I had to go with a rag after the "cleaning" with a cloth and climb the corners.
- Extremely scant functionality and informativeness.
- struck the complete lack of a quick charging mode Quick Charge 4.0. The battery charged constantly for 5-6 hours. For comparison, S9 В± charged the battery in 1 hour 45-47 minutes. Therefore, cleaning this robot even a two-bedroom apartment is stretched for several days. In one day removes only the room and part of the corridor. On the second day, usually planned to clean the kitchen and the rest of the corridor. On the third day - cleaning the second room and dressing room. In general, it is extremely uncomfortable!
- significantly lacked the quality of cleaning. Therefore, from such a bad robot quickly got rid of.
From the advantages I will note only what he is cheap.

2. Roborock S6 MAXV
Minuses:
- Wet cleaning, although declared, implemented on the residual principle
- The most noisy. It seemed to me that the noise level after Xiaomi 1S times 1.5 exactly above! The noise level is on the threshold of tolerance to this robot.
- The quality of dry cleaning is much better than Xiaomi 1S, but still not as I would like.
- Cleaning carpet is something. Although the pile of the carpet is minimal, Robot Elozith-Elozit and collects a carpet in the hill, after which it stops and reports that it is stuck. As a workaround of the crutch, he invented two options - either removed the carpet to the side, or at the edges of the carpet put heavy children's toys and boxes with them. But this is also not an option.
- Again, problems with the corona application and the disappearance of the robot in it.
- Also a little feeble and few opportunities for customization.
- WiFi often falls off. Perhaps in future firmware it will be corrected, but I'm not ready to wait until gray hair.
- For incomprehensible reasons, the map of the house and the settings of the virtual block walls disappeared. Received this to the fact that, perhaps, the servers in China had problems and therefore everything was lost.
- Full absence of information about the state of the robot and its viability. Self-diagnosis is not a robot. It also took here that it is extremely difficult to type errors when working with a robot without much experience.
- I did not like cleaning and cleaning the robot. It is difficult to describe, but everything is somehow clumsy and unnatural. Ergonomics or chromas ...
I can not attribute anything to the pros.

3. Goutrend Echo 520.
In general, with this model, manufacturers did not specify initially:
- Power suction turned out to be worse than nowhere. However, the buzz from the work of the vacuum cleaner is worthless.
- It has the chlipping point of 2600 mAh. It is enough for cleaning only one room, after which the robot leaves for a charging for a long time (on average, charging lasts 5 hours and 15..20 minutes). Therefore, cleaning even a two-room apartment is stretched for all week (it cleans a new space every day).
- The battery is quickly wearing. On average, the replacement is required after a year of use. The new battery costs 3990 rubles from the official dealer.
- The quality of wet cleaning is extremely mediocre. The robot simply smears on the whole area of ​​dirt. He has no contamination sensor.
- Very problematic care for the robot.
- Previously cost 23,000 rubles. Now costs 32-35,000 rubles. For such a price of advantages


4. SAMSUNG VR20M7070.
A set of solid minuses. I bought it because it hoped onto the brand and on the recommendation of a friend.
- the quality of cleaning despite the big price and the brand was generally lousy, worse than Xiaomi 1S
- Optics are weak. Does not see dark or those inclined to dark objects and runs about them. Also disappointed that he perceives the fabric as a wall. If the curtains reach the floor or simply hang low, then it will not be removed under the window. Therefore, I had to raise the curtains in the rooms for window sills every time. Honestly, it is asked. For example, ROOMBA S9 В± did not perceive the curtains as obstacles and still cleaned under the windows.
- often happens, it happens or breaks. I did not expect such a good brand. A friend constantly crawls a C005 error and it reboots the robot for food and after 2-3 reboots starts to work. In another forumchanin, the engine failed in half a year. Another friend had a motherboard twice broken. After first repairs, it worked for a short time - 2 months.
- Carpets removes badly. Friend has 3 carpet and one small rug at the entrance to the apartment. Alternatively removes carpets with extremely small pile coating.
- Very old technical equipment. No new know-how or raisins did not find it.
- It turned out to be very problematic robot care. The garbage container consists of 2 parts. The second, small part, is very difficult to clean and rinse. I did not expect such a stand.
- For some reason, it removes very poorly with bad lighting. Other robots, even cheaper kept without artificial illumination.
- The price turned out to be unreasonably high. Other models from this brand also do not shine functionality and reliability.
As long as the robot is not a heart, got rid of this disgrace.

In general, if there is some budget, I would recommend to save money, as it seems like this in the spring and summer new models from Okami, Irobot and IceBO are expected. There is no information about other information. Something more or less good begins with a budget of 45-50,000 rubles. Segment up to 30,000 rubles accurately occupy unworthy crafts and "probes".

PaulPP,
come onPavlusha , Lights and here, and then a swamp stagn without coca, at least the pictures in the interior attached their own, but I tried a lot, but no facts, only flood.

Curly occurred in the form of imposing purchases ...
My wife bought: Haier HB-Qt51s Pro and the same courier brought me bought as a gift ilive V55 Pro.
Experts, tell me, which is better?

storozh07,
Better one thing is in the store. It is called Okami U100 Laser.

storozh07,
Judging by the fact that the HAIER HB-QT51S Pro is written is the clone Ilife A40, apparently better to leave the ILIVE V55 PRO, there should be no problems with the purchase of consumables.

Bratishkanvkz , Thanks for the advice!

storozh07,
Hayer has navigation, though it is bad, and the ILIF is completely random, which is better not so to speak, you need to know where and in what conditions the robots will work, but you have an excellent opportunity to find out which one is the best one, launching every robot every other day Behind the other, one day Ilife, the next day Hyer and so alternately, and the debris folded into his package for everyone, one month to appreciate who will collect more than the larger the weight of the weight, the less error and the more clear the winner.

Medtesh , It is also an option! Thank you!!!

Gor9i4ka,
Many thanks for this detailed feedback! Real use experience is best transmitted from the device. I think I saw the video about which you speak, but neither on it nor in others did not notice any curtains and covered hanging from beds, and how on the "open area" rides - quite like himself, the only thing that rushes into Lidar - How neatly it circles all sorts of feet of furniture and pots with plants, F9 can not be so beautiful, but not critical))) ... What drives to Tulle, but enters the closet - it is certainly surprising, and maybe it's specially done to if tulle Long - not to wind it on the brush (although it seems somewhere read just about such cases in F9). And the fact that the rag wet only in the middle is strange. I saw this in the review of the 1C model, and it seems that the pile is long in the middle part, and at the edges - short, and in the review on the F9 long pile on the whole width ... Apparently this is a lottery and can put one or another It seems that, if necessary, you can easily buy a wide one ... And the fact that the rugs are tacking - not deadly, ready to clean / move / lift everything you need to prevent. And run in the afternoon or with artificial lighting, the main thing is that from the course did not come down, it was not lost under the big bed and for one pass as possible to the whole apartment ...: rolleyes:

Panteras,
Yes, right. Okami U100 will cope with this unbearable task. It was very happy that you liked this robot and in general products brand Okami.

PaulPP,
How good that you are so consistent.

Medtesh,
Yes, I was happy for this very much. Thank you for your support and prosper.