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Windows updates (discussion and troubleshooting)
This topic is intended to discuss news, issues and issues related to updates for Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 8.1, Windows 10. Disputes, conversations, criticism, arguments for and against - all here.
Practice has shown that on their own updates to Windows are extremely rare problem, but they can reveal hidden defects in the hardware or software of the PC. More often have to deal with the problems after the fact: some updating itself established, and then the user was faced with unpleasant consequences (not boot the system, do not run applications, etc.). It is impossible to predict how to behave exactly your system specifically to your hardware after the installation of specific updates. However, in your power to do some manipulations with your PC to detect and eliminate various defects that may in the future lead to problems after installing the update. Again:updates reveal hidden defects, and do not cause them to appear. This is not always the case, but as a rule it is. Below are listed general actions and recommendations, following which you can minimize the possibility of any problems related to installing updates in any way.
Post has been editedAvatar-lion - 18.06.20, 12:35
This topic is intended to discuss news, issues and issues related to updates for Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 8.1, Windows 10. Disputes, conversations, criticism, arguments for and against - all here.
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How to avoid problems with updates for Windows
How to avoid problems with updates for Windows
Practice has shown that on their own updates to Windows are extremely rare problem, but they can reveal hidden defects in the hardware or software of the PC. More often have to deal with the problems after the fact: some updating itself established, and then the user was faced with unpleasant consequences (not boot the system, do not run applications, etc.). It is impossible to predict how to behave exactly your system specifically to your hardware after the installation of specific updates. However, in your power to do some manipulations with your PC to detect and eliminate various defects that may in the future lead to problems after installing the update. Again:updates reveal hidden defects, and do not cause them to appear. This is not always the case, but as a rule it is. Below are listed general actions and recommendations, following which you can minimize the possibility of any problems related to installing updates in any way.
Hacked core Windows 7
The unequivocal leader in the number of problems and incompatibilities with a variety of updates. Although common sense suggests thatOS kernelbetter not to touch it at all, many are conducted in a variety of popular assembly with automatic activation of the system. The basis of this "automatic activation" is usually ODIN (OEM Driver Installer), which emulates a SLIC-table version 2.1. This is one of the components for the Offline-activation system used by major manufacturers of computers to automatically activate predefined Windows 7. By default, SLIC-table should be located in the BIOS (UEFI) computer, but it can be loaded into memory and in other ways. ODIN installs a driver that emulates that same SLIC-table. However, on 64-bit Windows all driversshouldhave a digital signature, otherwise they will not be loaded at startup, so ODIN change boot options by editing the BCD-file and changing it on the path hacked bootloader system and hack the kernel. This allows you to bypass the protection and load the driver without a digital signature, but the installation of any update that is somehow connected with the core operating system, will lead to unpredictable consequences. In fact we have a mixture of new files (that came with the update) and the old core files (which are loaded to force through the edited boot options).
Accordingly, if you did not install the original distribution, but another popular build, or simply forgot how to activate the system, thennecessarilycheck your computer. This is done simply. In the command line on behalf of the adminstrator enterBCDEditand look at the result. It should be like this:screenshot. And here is an example with modified boot parameters (a hacked kernel and a hacked kernel loader are used):screenshot. If you have such a case, it is strongly recommended to restore the original boot parameters:
Copy the contents of the spoiler to Notepad, thenFile>Saveas...and specify the name (for example,temp.bat). We right-click on the received .bat-file and select the launch from the Administrator. After its execution, restart the PC. Then check the output of the command again.BCDEdit- Download options should now be normal.
Accordingly, if you did not install the original distribution, but another popular build, or simply forgot how to activate the system, thennecessarilycheck your computer. This is done simply. In the command line on behalf of the adminstrator enterBCDEditand look at the result. It should be like this:screenshot. And here is an example with modified boot parameters (a hacked kernel and a hacked kernel loader are used):screenshot. If you have such a case, it is strongly recommended to restore the original boot parameters:
del "% windir% \ system32 \ drivers \ oem-drv64.sys"
del "% windir% \ system32 \ xNtKrnl.exe"
del "% windir% \ system32 \ xOsLoad.exe"
del "% windir% \ System32 \ ru-RU \ xOsLoad.exe.mui"
del "% windir% \ System32 \ en-US \ xOsLoad.exe.mui"
% windir% \ system32 \ bcdedit.exe / set {current} path \ Windows \ system32 \ winload.exe
% windir% \ system32 \ bcdedit.exe / deletevalue {current} kernel
% windir% \ system32 \ bcdedit.exe / deletevalue {current} nointegritychecks
% windir% \ system32 \ bcdedit.exe / deletevalue {current} custom: 26000027
reg delete HKLM \ SYSTEM \ CurrentControlSet \ services \ oem-drv64 / va / f
del "% windir% \ system32 \ xNtKrnl.exe"
del "% windir% \ system32 \ xOsLoad.exe"
del "% windir% \ System32 \ ru-RU \ xOsLoad.exe.mui"
del "% windir% \ System32 \ en-US \ xOsLoad.exe.mui"
% windir% \ system32 \ bcdedit.exe / set {current} path \ Windows \ system32 \ winload.exe
% windir% \ system32 \ bcdedit.exe / deletevalue {current} kernel
% windir% \ system32 \ bcdedit.exe / deletevalue {current} nointegritychecks
% windir% \ system32 \ bcdedit.exe / deletevalue {current} custom: 26000027
reg delete HKLM \ SYSTEM \ CurrentControlSet \ services \ oem-drv64 / va / f
Copy the contents of the spoiler to Notepad, thenFile>Saveas...and specify the name (for example,temp.bat). We right-click on the received .bat-file and select the launch from the Administrator. After its execution, restart the PC. Then check the output of the command again.BCDEdit- Download options should now be normal.
Problems with the drive or file system
Most often, the user does not realize that his hard drive is gradually dying. Brakes, blue screens, broken files are typical signs of a dying HDD, but the user blames viruses, drivers, updates for everything ... In general, anyone, but not your computer. On the whole, the people are not accustomed to monitoring the condition of their drives. And in vain. First of all, the owners of laptops are at risk, since any HDD is extremely bad at shaking and hitting.
Problems with the disk can be divided into two parts: hardware and software. Hardware - is bad sectors, which, for various reasons, HDD controller refuses to replace the backup. Needless to say, a hardware malfunction considered to any problems associated with mechanical drive part (problems with starting the engine, the problems with calibration block read heads, with output bits from unit issues a parking area, etc.) and with its electronic components ( contact oxidation, poor nutrition due to lousy power supply, etc.). Software errors - this is when the mechanical drive in order, but at the file system level, some files are "missing" or damaged, for example, suddenly turned off the light - and file the record was broken in the middle.
The first thing to do for any HDD is to view the report.S.M.A.R.T.any convenient utility. The most intuitive and simple interface hasHdtunehowever, you can use any other software that you see fit. Discuss the status of your HDD can herethistopic.
The second thing you need to do - is to check the integrity of the file system, as well as the integrity of the files themselves on the system partition. This is done in the properties of a local drive on the "Tools" tab. If some files are missing or damaged, then the corresponding records will be deleted from the file table. See the results of verification can be in the system log. To do this, right click on Computer>Control. Next, select Event Viewer.>Windows logs>Application. There you are interested in the event with the code 1001.
Problems with the disk can be divided into two parts: hardware and software. Hardware - is bad sectors, which, for various reasons, HDD controller refuses to replace the backup. Needless to say, a hardware malfunction considered to any problems associated with mechanical drive part (problems with starting the engine, the problems with calibration block read heads, with output bits from unit issues a parking area, etc.) and with its electronic components ( contact oxidation, poor nutrition due to lousy power supply, etc.). Software errors - this is when the mechanical drive in order, but at the file system level, some files are "missing" or damaged, for example, suddenly turned off the light - and file the record was broken in the middle.
The first thing to do for any HDD is to view the report.S.M.A.R.T.any convenient utility. The most intuitive and simple interface hasHdtunehowever, you can use any other software that you see fit. Discuss the status of your HDD can herethistopic.
The second thing you need to do - is to check the integrity of the file system, as well as the integrity of the files themselves on the system partition. This is done in the properties of a local drive on the "Tools" tab. If some files are missing or damaged, then the corresponding records will be deleted from the file table. See the results of verification can be in the system log. To do this, right click on Computer>Control. Next, select Event Viewer.>Windows logs>Application. There you are interested in the event with the code 1001.
Damage to critical system files
On the command line on behalf of the Administrator, run the commandSFC / ScanNow- such verification takes some time, however, if S.M.A.R.T. drive or system log showed an alarming picture, it is best to do it immediately.
Damage to the storage of system components
On the command line on behalf of the Administrator, run the commandDISM / Online / Cleanup-Image / ScanHealth- This test can take about half an hour, or even more. It is recommended to disable the anti-virus monitor, because it may take several hours to check. By analogy with the previous paragraph - do it if S.M.A.R.T. the drive showed problems or if the SFC / ScanNow team showed the presence of damaged files.
Note for Windows 7 users:make sure you have installedKB2966583before you execute this command.
Note for Windows 8, 8.1, 10 users:if ScanHealth shows any problems, then runDISM / Online / Cleanup-Image / RestoreHealth(Windows 7 users may not worry; they have ScanHealth key that combines both of these commands).
Note for Windows 7 users:make sure you have installedKB2966583before you execute this command.
Note for Windows 8, 8.1, 10 users:if ScanHealth shows any problems, then runDISM / Online / Cleanup-Image / RestoreHealth(Windows 7 users may not worry; they have ScanHealth key that combines both of these commands).
Overheat
In this case, overheating is dangerous because of his computer may hang on or off at the time of the updates, and this is one of the few methods highly likely to tightly ditch system. This is due to the fact that the installation of the update - it is, in fact, active movement of tens or hundreds of files, as well as the introduction of thousands of entries in the system registry. The sudden shutdown or reboot in the middle of this process will lead to the fact that we will have a wild mess of files, as well as some old and some new entries in the registry. Therefore, if you suddenly want ushatat your system, you can forcibly turn off the computer when you installed the update.
Given the fact that the installation of the update is associated with the active use of CPU, RAM, HDD \ SSD, better secure and check the temperature of your iron friend. Tools for temperature monitoring there are so many, but not all of them are able to create an artificial load. Namely temperature under load and must look as quiescent frequency substantially lower than the nominal and even tightly clogged cooling system to cope with the heat removal. The most convenient is possible to consider a stress test from theAIDA64, which allows you to load all the components of the computer, but you can use any other software for testing and monitoring temperatures.
The topic of discussion on computer cooling ishere.
Given the fact that the installation of the update is associated with the active use of CPU, RAM, HDD \ SSD, better secure and check the temperature of your iron friend. Tools for temperature monitoring there are so many, but not all of them are able to create an artificial load. Namely temperature under load and must look as quiescent frequency substantially lower than the nominal and even tightly clogged cooling system to cope with the heat removal. The most convenient is possible to consider a stress test from theAIDA64, which allows you to load all the components of the computer, but you can use any other software for testing and monitoring temperatures.
The topic of discussion on computer cooling ishere.
Viruses
Discussion and treatment of viruses, as well as the selection and configuration of antiviruses is conducted herehere. Directly with the update theme, virus threats may not be related, but if it so happens that you need to install a bunch of updates on a computer that has been working without antivirus for a long time, it makes sense to do a quick scan with any standalone anti-virus scanner (Dr.Web CureIt !, Kaspersky Virus Removal Tool, etc.).
Backup
This term implies both the creation of control points and the creation of an archive copy of the entire system partition.
Regardless of whether the checkpointing or not, the operating system every ten days creates registry backups. However, it is best to configure the creation of high-grade control points. In Windows XP, this chip was called the "System Restore" in Windows 7 and later it was renamed into "System Protection", but its essence remains the same: stored previous versions of files that allows you to return your system to a working state (not always, but often) . Check settings "System Protection" by opening the properties of the computer (screenshot). Check that System Protection is turned on and works correctly (create a control point yourself and see what happens). You can also configure the amount of free space that will be given under the control points. Do not worry about the overflow disk. In case of exceeding the specified limit, the oldest control point will be automatically deleted when creating a new one.
In the same window, you can select the "Support Center" (below), and in it - the "Backup and Restore." Of course, creating a full-fledged image of the system and boot partitions will take a certain amount of time and will require a lot of space to store the created copies, however, regular copying (by default, archiving is performed once a week) is recommended to be done on all computers whose operationis criticalit is important and the user is ready to sacrifice free space for the sake of reliability.
Regardless of whether the checkpointing or not, the operating system every ten days creates registry backups. However, it is best to configure the creation of high-grade control points. In Windows XP, this chip was called the "System Restore" in Windows 7 and later it was renamed into "System Protection", but its essence remains the same: stored previous versions of files that allows you to return your system to a working state (not always, but often) . Check settings "System Protection" by opening the properties of the computer (screenshot). Check that System Protection is turned on and works correctly (create a control point yourself and see what happens). You can also configure the amount of free space that will be given under the control points. Do not worry about the overflow disk. In case of exceeding the specified limit, the oldest control point will be automatically deleted when creating a new one.
In the same window, you can select the "Support Center" (below), and in it - the "Backup and Restore." Of course, creating a full-fledged image of the system and boot partitions will take a certain amount of time and will require a lot of space to store the created copies, however, regular copying (by default, archiving is performed once a week) is recommended to be done on all computers whose operationis criticalit is important and the user is ready to sacrifice free space for the sake of reliability.
Other update issues
After installing some updates, the system seemed to take longer to load. What to do?
Defragment Large updates affect tens and hundreds of files, and the size of logs and log files also increases significantly. Defragmentation eliminates the effect of fragmented files and the launch speed will return to previous levels.
I heard that some updates forcedly increase the system startup time ...
Parsingone such case.
Specific updates specifically slow down your computer!
At the moment there is no evidence of the negative impact of updates on PC performance. Despite the fact that lately there has been an active discussion of performance degradation due to updates covering Specter and Meltdown vulnerabilities, my tests showedextremely curious picture... However, you can post tests yourself.of hiscomputer before and after installing KB4056897, which will clearly show the difference in performance.
What is the best way to configure Update Center in Windows 7?
AboutSo.
What about privacy? Telemetry and other espionage ... Is this problem still topical or are there already methods to disable surveillance?
About privacy and other things I can not say. At the moment, I personally have not recorded any harm to me or my computer. Although, however, it is not surprising. Mouse fuss about telemetry and some kind of "espionage" has been observed on various IT forums and websites for several years already. At the same time, no one anywhere has ever clearly explained how much damage it does to the user or his computer.
What is characteristic of the way, the only thing that really could have been fear - so this performance decrease. Because common sense tells us that if some information is collected, the work will it be at the expense of computer resources. But even with this Internet conspiracy failed. Oh, it would seem, all the tests and benchmarks 100500 pieces coined. Take and test computer "Telemetry" and "no telemetry". And share the results. Moreover, many of the tests are simplified to a disgrace. Downloaded, Run test button pressed. All! Yes, we have many games and programs are harder to install than the PC test ... But no. Conspiracy theorists continue to pour muddy water on the forums about a "fall performance", although it would seem, and have made the test has disabled the telemetry again did a test, the results posted. Heavy? Apparently yes, seriously ... Released Windows 10 in 2014. Since that time (four years!) None conspirologist did not bother to test your PC for performance levels before and after the "off" all sorts of spy stuff.
Are there standalone updates?
For Windows 7: can usecompilation of updatesthat creates and maintains a friendsimplix.
For Windows 8 and 8.1: such collections of updates are unknown, if someone knows, please inform.
For Windows 10: Microsoft regularly releases updated images of this system. Searched on any torrent tracker on request "Windows 10 MSDN".
Why do we need these updates? Too much fuss is unclear for what!
Updates are aimed primarily at improving the security of Windows, closing holes and gaps in the operating system code. Security - the issue is not too obvious, many users do bad imagine what a "vulnerability in the OS" and believe that the safe operation of the computer simply does not run unknown files. The idea is sound, but that's not always necessary to do something somewhere to run. True stuff get through to you is not as beautiful I've found a beautiful icon. The links below are not intended to denigrate its goal to Microsoft, to put it a bunch of idiots Krivorukov etc. Not. This is just a clear example on why holes in operating systems to block the best on the level of the operating system itself, rather than relying on security software. All links below - the first thing that came in the Google SERP. I do not sort them by date, seriousness, etc. And frankly collect a large and impressive collection of vulnerabilities me simply laziness. However, you can find in the search engines do a lot of terrible news for "Vulnerabilities Windows". Well, let's go ...
Critical vulnerability allows to intercept all network traffic of users of Windows
Microsoft: a critical vulnerability in almost all computers
Google again revealed unpatched vulnerability in Windows
New vulnerability allows elevating privileges in Win7 / Vista bypassing UAC
Vulnerability in Windows 7 is used for spying?
SMB vulnerability in Windows 7
Dangerous vulnerability in windows
Vulnerability in the NTFS file system can cause Windows 7, 8 and Vista crash
WannaCry cipher epidemic: what happened and how to protect
Defragment Large updates affect tens and hundreds of files, and the size of logs and log files also increases significantly. Defragmentation eliminates the effect of fragmented files and the launch speed will return to previous levels.
I heard that some updates forcedly increase the system startup time ...
Parsingone such case.
Specific updates specifically slow down your computer!
At the moment there is no evidence of the negative impact of updates on PC performance. Despite the fact that lately there has been an active discussion of performance degradation due to updates covering Specter and Meltdown vulnerabilities, my tests showedextremely curious picture... However, you can post tests yourself.of hiscomputer before and after installing KB4056897, which will clearly show the difference in performance.
What is the best way to configure Update Center in Windows 7?
AboutSo.
What about privacy? Telemetry and other espionage ... Is this problem still topical or are there already methods to disable surveillance?
About privacy and other things I can not say. At the moment, I personally have not recorded any harm to me or my computer. Although, however, it is not surprising. Mouse fuss about telemetry and some kind of "espionage" has been observed on various IT forums and websites for several years already. At the same time, no one anywhere has ever clearly explained how much damage it does to the user or his computer.
What is characteristic of the way, the only thing that really could have been fear - so this performance decrease. Because common sense tells us that if some information is collected, the work will it be at the expense of computer resources. But even with this Internet conspiracy failed. Oh, it would seem, all the tests and benchmarks 100500 pieces coined. Take and test computer "Telemetry" and "no telemetry". And share the results. Moreover, many of the tests are simplified to a disgrace. Downloaded, Run test button pressed. All! Yes, we have many games and programs are harder to install than the PC test ... But no. Conspiracy theorists continue to pour muddy water on the forums about a "fall performance", although it would seem, and have made the test has disabled the telemetry again did a test, the results posted. Heavy? Apparently yes, seriously ... Released Windows 10 in 2014. Since that time (four years!) None conspirologist did not bother to test your PC for performance levels before and after the "off" all sorts of spy stuff.
Are there standalone updates?
For Windows 7: can usecompilation of updatesthat creates and maintains a friendsimplix.
For Windows 8 and 8.1: such collections of updates are unknown, if someone knows, please inform.
For Windows 10: Microsoft regularly releases updated images of this system. Searched on any torrent tracker on request "Windows 10 MSDN".
Why do we need these updates? Too much fuss is unclear for what!
Updates are aimed primarily at improving the security of Windows, closing holes and gaps in the operating system code. Security - the issue is not too obvious, many users do bad imagine what a "vulnerability in the OS" and believe that the safe operation of the computer simply does not run unknown files. The idea is sound, but that's not always necessary to do something somewhere to run. True stuff get through to you is not as beautiful I've found a beautiful icon. The links below are not intended to denigrate its goal to Microsoft, to put it a bunch of idiots Krivorukov etc. Not. This is just a clear example on why holes in operating systems to block the best on the level of the operating system itself, rather than relying on security software. All links below - the first thing that came in the Google SERP. I do not sort them by date, seriousness, etc. And frankly collect a large and impressive collection of vulnerabilities me simply laziness. However, you can find in the search engines do a lot of terrible news for "Vulnerabilities Windows". Well, let's go ...
Critical vulnerability allows to intercept all network traffic of users of Windows
Microsoft: a critical vulnerability in almost all computers
Google again revealed unpatched vulnerability in Windows
New vulnerability allows elevating privileges in Win7 / Vista bypassing UAC
Vulnerability in Windows 7 is used for spying?
SMB vulnerability in Windows 7
Dangerous vulnerability in windows
Vulnerability in the NTFS file system can cause Windows 7, 8 and Vista crash
WannaCry cipher epidemic: what happened and how to protect
Post has been editedAvatar-lion - 18.06.20, 12:35
KB3179573 punch that for the update. According to the observations it slows down the on / off laptop, but this is not accurate.
And KB3172605 there too.
Post has been editedAssassin225 - 12.02.18, 18:46
And KB3172605 there too.
Post has been editedAssassin225 - 12.02.18, 18:46
Reason for editing: KB3172605
Kosta26 @ 12.02.18, 18:34
Are all the updates, no problems, no braking.
Post has been editedAssassin225 - 12.02.18, 19:02
Assassin225 @ 12.02.18, 18:20
KB3179573 punch that for the update. According to the observations it slows down the on / off laptop, but this is not accurate. And KB3172605 there too.
In order to avoid claims in the spirit of "Yes, you have i7 and SSD, so there is no difference!", I tested everything on the ASUS N61DA laptop of the following configuration:
- Phenom II N830
- 2 x 2Gb 1333MHz
- Mobility Radeon HD 5730
- HDD 320Gb (5400ab \ min;Report S.M.A.R.T.)
- Windows 7 "Ultimate" (64-bit)
Report
Briefly about testing methodology: load time metering>removing updates>reboot>search for updates (without installation, just wait until svchost and TrustedInstaller stop loading CPU)>reboot>load time measurement.
It should be noted, the results surprised me a little. I didn’t expect that removing two updates would slow down the system load so much (as much as 16 seconds!). I did the defragmentation through the regular Windows defragmenter, but this did not affect the situation:
I decided to install KB3179573 and KB3172605 back. Results:
Made defragmentation (KB3179573 and KB3172605, respectively, installed):
If you want to know my opinion, then much more depends on the speed of the disk subsystem. Even during the time of Windows XP, hard drives often became a bottleneck, and after the release of Windows 7, the presence of an SSD became necessary for comfortable work at a computer. But if it still seems to you that the system began to load or shut down longer after installing any updates, then just defragment it. I guess this will return your usual boot time and shutdown time.
Verdict:not confirmed
- Download duration before deleting KB3179573 and KB3172605: 65 seconds
- The duration of the completion of work before deleting KB3179573 and KB3172605: 10 seconds
- Download duration after deleting KB3179573 and KB3172605: 81 seconds
- Duration of completion after removing KB3179573 and KB3172605: 8 seconds
It should be noted, the results surprised me a little. I didn’t expect that removing two updates would slow down the system load so much (as much as 16 seconds!). I did the defragmentation through the regular Windows defragmenter, but this did not affect the situation:
- Download duration after defragmentation: 82 seconds
- Duration of completion after defragmentation: 9 seconds
I decided to install KB3179573 and KB3172605 back. Results:
- Download duration after installing KB3179573 and KB3172605 back: 50 seconds
- The duration of the completion of work after the installation of KB3179573 and KB3172605 back: 10 seconds
Made defragmentation (KB3179573 and KB3172605, respectively, installed):
- Download duration after defragmentation: 44 seconds
- Duration of completion after defragmentation: 12 seconds
If you want to know my opinion, then much more depends on the speed of the disk subsystem. Even during the time of Windows XP, hard drives often became a bottleneck, and after the release of Windows 7, the presence of an SSD became necessary for comfortable work at a computer. But if it still seems to you that the system began to load or shut down longer after installing any updates, then just defragment it. I guess this will return your usual boot time and shutdown time.
Verdict:not confirmed
System boot timemore convenientmore precisely mark applications for this purpose.
Anyway, thanks for the work done and the time spent. Plus flew away.That's what became interesting. Winda pirate or license?
Anyway, thanks for the work done and the time spent. Plus flew away.
Avatar-Lion @ 12.02.18, 20:42
Windows 7 "Ultimate" (64-bit)
Assassin225 @ 12.02.18, 22:28
System boot time is more convenient to pinpoint applications for this purpose intended
This is what, for example? And, most importantly, why did you think that they would be more accurate than monitoring by the system itself?
Assassin225 @ 12.02.18, 22:28
Winda pirate or license?
Activation was performed using SLIC 2.1. If you know what it is, then this answer will be enough for you. If you do not know, then I can only recommend reading about the three-component mechanism for activating Windows 7 (the first spoiler inthistopic).
P.S. Hope to get on Rutreker, you know.
Post has been editedAvatar-lion - 12.02.18, 22:39
Avatar-Lion @ 12.02.18, 22:32
This is what, for example?
Avatar-Lion @ 12.02.18, 22:32
And, most importantly, why did you think that they would be more accurate than monitoring by the system itself?
Avatar-Lion @ 12.02.18, 22:32
Activation was performed using SLIC 2.1. If you know what it is, then this answer will be enough for you. If you do not know, then I can only recommend reading about the three-component mechanism for activating Windows 7 (the first spoiler in this topic).
Assassin225 @ 02.13.18, 08:26
how on Win 7 to monitor the system?
You post number 1 in the topic just read? There it is written about it:http: //www.picshare.ru…/180213/f6a70MLDkD.png
About BootRacer did not know. Thank. The next time I use it, if someone complains about the long loading of the system.
About the "pirate". Yes, pirate. But I specifically indicated the method of activation, in order to exclude any speculation on the topic "But you have all the broken Winda, once pirated!". Already faced this repeatedly, alas.
Evastormm @ 13.02.18, 08:58
ASUS k50c winndows 7, after installing updates does not load
Hit F8 before booting the system and select it:http://ps-land.ru/images/stories/statyi/10.png. Next, write the stop code number on the forum. If you do not have a blue screen, but simply some kind of error is displayed, then we write the error text on the forum. You can simply attach a photo of the screen to the message or upload it to some hosting service and provide a link to the image.
Post has been editedAvatar-lion - 13.02.18, 10:08
I ask the moderator to remove the two previous evastormm posts (she just used the forum to show me the screen photo).
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On the topic: another victim ODIN (OEM Driver Installer). The use of a cracked OS kernel led to a blue screen of death, since it came into conflict with some updates.
Verdict: do not crack the core of the system and then everything will be fine.
Post has been editedAvatar-lion - 13.02.18, 12:17
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On the topic: another victim ODIN (OEM Driver Installer). The use of a cracked OS kernel led to a blue screen of death, since it came into conflict with some updates.
Verdict: do not crack the core of the system and then everything will be fine.
Post has been editedAvatar-lion - 13.02.18, 12:17
Avatar-Lion @ 12.02.18, 16:40
What is not an argument:
- Once I did not boot the system after installing some update
- After installing updates, I started to fail and slow down
- A friend of my brother's neighbor told me that he died of Wind after the update
- I read somewhere on the internet that updating does more harm than good
- My aunt at work has a boy programmer and he said that it is better to turn off the updates
- Once I did not boot the system after installing some update
- After installing updates, I started to fail and slow down
- A friend of my brother's neighbor told me that he died of Wind after the update
- I read somewhere on the internet that updating does more harm than good
- My aunt at work has a boy programmer and he said that it is better to turn off the updates
1. What is it? Well, yes, it did not boot.
2. Oh, is this an argument? OK.
3. Generally, a friend of my nephew's aunt's neighbor. Yes, it was like that. Why not an argument then?
4. I agree, not an argument.
5. I agree.
In my experience I will say. I use Windows with version 95. I will say this, there have always been problems with updates since windows xp. Up to this point I have not met or do not remember, I will not lie. Only service packs were installed on xp, and then these updates were turned off. And if they did not turn off, then after installing any update, the computer rebooted for a long time, turned on for a long time (disk check for errors) and, of course, turned off for a long time. I do not remember problems on whist, but I used it after SP2.
But there was a problem on everyone’s favorite 7, then BSOD after installing the update, then explorer.exe was stupidly hanging. There was a lot of things, I will not paint everything. And so because of these patches, the OS started to work much slower.
I don’t remember 8 / 8.1 problems either, only performance degradation. I had no problems, it does not mean that they were not on other configurations either. Revoked updates regularly, that at the time of 7, that 8.
But about the wine 10 generally keep quiet. There are problems from updates constantly. Extreme builds (before major updates) work well, but when the next major update comes out, it all starts again. You will not open the start, then the percents with the disk are loaded due to telemetry.
Hindus in Microsoft at all started to wisely, how can you buy such a product?
According to the results I will say. Disabling updates is a personal matter for everyone, but there’s no point in installing them. They have more problems than good. Windy is leaky like a colander, and all the holes will not close. And on those holes on which updates come, nobody use them. Is it only in the corporate segment. Almost all updates to the corporation and then sent. We put Windows, let's say 7 with a service pack and a good antivirus and that's it. Home for the eyes.
If we put Windows for the money to the client, turn off all updates tightly! This is the first thing to do. Reputation is the most expensive!
About 10 generally keep quiet, the beta version, in which something constantly breaks.
raplain, post number 1 states how to bring evidence about the dangers of updates. Your words themselves have zero value.Avatar-Lion @ 2/04/18 16:37
KB3177467 (Service Stack Update for Windows 7)
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For comparison, update KB3172605 and all the rest(I did not check all of them)you can delete
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Posted on 02/13/2018 1:16 PM:
And there are no recovery points before installing this update ...
Assassin225, if the update is a critical component of the system and is an integral part of it, then you really cannot delete it, although it will be listed as installed.Avatar-Lion @ 02.13.18, 13:21
if the update is a critical component of the system and is an integral part of it, then you really cannot delete it, although it will be listed as installed.
Assassin225, Yep The installation date is marked September 26, 2016. I mean about a week later how it came out (09/19/2016), so I set it up. Deletion is also not available if you are talking about it.Avatar-Lion @ 02.13.18, 13:01
raplain, in post number 1 it is specified how to bring evidence about the dangers of updates. Your words themselves have zero value.
And why should I prove something to someone? I just share my experience on this OS with specific parameters. I am not going to prove anything to anyone, and I will not. And the time has passed.
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