All about tablets on Windows 8. | Or rather, the most complete information (:



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It so happened that many people are not even aware of the fact of the existence of such a category of devices. And those who still know about it, often have only fragmentary information of the most superficial character. In order to fill this gap in the knowledge of the majority, as well as to help with the choice of a tablet on this OS, I will try to combine in one message the maximum useful information about this type of device.

Since the amount of text exceeds all permissible norms, each of the paragraphs of the message will be removed under the spoiler.

I. Types of tablets on Windows 8.
There are 2 main categories of tablets running Windows 8 and, within the 2nd category, 2 more subcategories:

1. Special Edition Tablet PCsWindows 8 - RT. Typical representative - Microsoft Surface RT
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First of all, it is worth talking about the features of Windows 8 RT itself. The fact is that it was specifically designed for use on tablets built on the basis of ARM processors (processors with such an architecture are installed on Android and iOS tablets in 99% of cases).
As a result, the main difference between Windows 8 RT and other versions of 8k iscomplete incompatibility with the so-called. desktop applications i.e. not designed specifically for, firstly, the ARM architecture of the processors, and secondly, for the specific Modern UI interface (also known as the Metro UI or Windows 8-style ). And, alas, due to the specific architecture of the processor, it is impossible to replace this OS version with any other edition of 8K.
What does this mean for us, potential buyers RT-tablets? To put it in the simplest language, the fact that none of the programs familiar to a stationary PC or laptop / netbook on such a tablet will start. However, not everything is so sad. First, many of the software developers are planning
“port” (transfer) your most popular programs to Windows 8 RT (however, you should be aware that you should expect the port of your favorite program only if it is quite popular and is still supported by the developer). Secondly,Windows store(similar to Google Play and the App Store for Windows 8) is constantly updated with a large number of a wide variety of applications, among which are both paid and free. In addition, if some application appeared in the desktop version of Windows Store (that is, if it was originally written for x86 / x64 architecture), then sooner or later it will appear in the RT version of Windows Store. And vice versa. This means that over time, the boundary between desktop applications and RT.
It is also necessary to take into account another important point: Windows RT, unlike other versions of 8k, comes with a pre-installed package of Office Office 2013 applications adapted for use on the touch screen. So, you will not need to buy it additionally.
The rest - in terms of user interface, in terms of opportunities to work with peripherals, in terms of organizing work with files - Windows RT is identical to other versions of 8k.

With the features of the OS figured out. Now let's talk about the tablets themselves. Microsoft made very strict requirements for all manufacturers of tablets running Windows RT. As a result, a number of features that are characteristic of this entire category of devices can be distinguished:
1. All RT tablets are currently equipped with an nVidia Tegra 3 ARM processor.
2. All RT tablets have dimensions and weight not exceeding those of Android and iOS tablets with the same screen diagonal. For example, a tabletAsus VivoTab RTIt weighs only 525 grams - it is 140 grams less than the weight of the 4th iPad.
3. The battery life of the RT-tablets is long enough - as a rule, not less than 10 hours with average loads and automatic display brightness.
4. All RT-tablets are equipped with high-quality IPS-display matrix (the name may vary depending on the manufacturer. Let's say, Microsoft calls the display technology Surface "ClearType Display", but, in fact, it's all the same IPS) with HD resolution (1366 * 768 points). Is it less than many competitors? I think, yes. But, in fairness, it is worth noting that with a display diagonal of 10.1 inches, Full HD resolution is just a marketing ploy. Using HD displays is just as comfortable.
5. Of course, all RT tablets are passively cooled (without using a fan).
6. All RT tablets are equipped with at least one USB 2.0 port (either full-sized, like, say, Surface, or micro, like Asus VivoTab RT. At the same time, an adapter is attached to the microUSB port, which allows you to turn it into a full-fledged USB port). That is, a variety of USB peripherals can always be connected to an RT tablet: mice, keyboards, external hard drives, modems, printers, etc. If only there was a necessary driver for them.
7. All RT tablets can instantly go to sleep and return from it. Moreover, the full load of the OS from the off state takes no more than 10 seconds (however, this is a feature of Windows 8 as such, and therefore all other tablets under its control).
8. All RT tablets are equipped with 2GB of RAM.

What are the purpose of RT-tablets? First of all, for the consumption of content. Watching movies, surfing the Internet, simple games - all this on RT tablets is no less comfortable than on Android or iOS counterparts.
You can work on RT tablets only with some reservations. If you have enough Microsoft office applications for work, then yes, RT tablets will be no worse than others, since the keyboard and mouse can be connected to them. But if you need some specific programs that you used to use on your stationary PC / laptop, you may not find their counterparts in the RT version of Windows.


2. Tablets running Windows 8 Core (aka single leanguage or basic) and Windows 8 Professional.
OS features
Here you can put it as short as possible - thisfull Windows 8, nothing no different than the one that can be installed on a stationary PC / laptop. I.e absolutely all programs which are designed for Windows, incl. those that were made under Windows 7, Vista, XP, 2000, etc., on a device running this OS they will work (of course, taking into account the requirements for the hardware device). In addition, you can install any software from the Windows Store, which means that everything developed for RT tablets is also available to you.

At this common features of devices from this category, oddly enough, end, because it includes 2 classes of fundamentally different tablets. They can be clearly divided into 2 types:

BUT)Tablets equipped with an Intel Atom processor. Typical representative - Acer iconia tab w510 .
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Intel has been able to make a breakthrough in the field of manufacturing mobile processors, releasing a line of x86 processorsClover trail(Though still line it has exactly 1 processor - z2760). And it's not loud marketing slogan - it really is a unique solution that does not have at the moment of their peers. Let me explain why. First, finally Intel'u achieved an adequate performance from Atom'nyh processors. And it's not even a clock frequency, and in the fact that almost all the shortcomings that led to what is considered to be "the brakes" processors intel Atom, came to eliminate the same. If earlier Atom rightly considered almost "under-processor", which occur only in a simple netbook, but now, finally, the reasons for such judgments are no more. Work on the device with the new Atom'om almost as comfortable as a PC with some heaped core i7. Of course, we are not talking about all kinds of activities. About the game, even to say no - here and so everything is clear. Intensive file operations (archiving, conversion, etc.), as well as complex computing operations - yes, of course, it is not well suited for this Atom. But now work with office applications, but even with graphics editors such as Photoshop of the same (amazing but true), and especially surfing the internet and watching movies - there is a difference in comparison with powerful processors is almost negligible. And this is the great merit of Intel.
Secondly, the most important thing isenergy efficiency, the new Atom is almost as good as most ARM processors. ( be on this topic ). This means that tablets with this processor can also operate on battery power for a long time, like their Android or iOS device. However, for all it has to pay. In the case of Atom'ami main disadvantage is the poor GPU (integrated video adapter). As a result, particularly in the desktop to play games on this tablet will not work. Or rather, it will not work in today. But in the relatively old - issued before the year 2005 - completely. For example, in my aforementioned Acer w510 at native resolution (1366 * 768) and maximum settings Unreat Tournament 2004 gave the FPS in the area 20, which is not bad. So play good old classic game development on these plates can be completely (:

With all this, the tablets on the Atom'e - full-fledged personal computers. With the ability to connect the mouse and keyboard, the tablet can always be turned into a full-featured work tool. In fact, it would be appropriate to consider this category of tablets as a special kind of very light (from 580 grams) touchscreen netbooks, but without a non-removable physical keyboard.

As for the general characteristics of this category: they partly coincide with the RT-versions of Windows tablets. But not all. So:
1. All tablets in this category are currently equipped with the intel Atom z2760 x86 processor.
2. All tablets in this category have dimensions and weight comparable to those of Android and iOS tablets with the same screen diagonal. For example, a tabletAcer iconia tab w510excluding docking station weighs only 580 grams. This is very, very small given that this tablet is a full-fledged personal computer. However, some of the Atom tablets are quite heavy - for example,Samsung ATIV Smart PC XE500weighs as much as 750 grams.
3. The autonomy of the Atom-tablets is very large - as a rule, not less than 8 hours with average loads and automatic display brightness.
4. All Atom tablets are equipped with a high-quality IPS display matrix (the name may vary depending on the manufacturer. Let's say Samsung calls its Ativ Smart PC display technology an abbreviation PLS, but, in fact, it's all the same IPS) with HD resolution (1366 * 768 dots).
5. Of course, all Atom tablets are passively cooled (without using a fan).
6. All Atom tablets are equipped with eMMC flash memory as a hard drive. Given the fact that these tablets passive cooling system, they are absolutely silent.
7. All Atom tablets are equipped with at least one USB 2.0 port (either full-sized, like, say, Samsung Ativ Smart PC xe500, or micro, like Acer w510. At the same time, an adapter is attached to the microUSB port that allows you to turn it into a full-fledged USB port) . That is, the Atom-tablet can always connect the most diverse USB peripherals: mice, keyboards, external hard drives, modems, printers, etc.
And there will always be a driver - this is a full-fledged version of Windows, for it, device manufacturers will write drivers guaranteed.
8. All Atom tablets can instantly go to sleep and return from it. Moreover, the full load of the OS from the off state takes no more than 10 seconds (however, this is a feature of Windows 8 as such, and therefore all other tablets under its control).
9. The diagonal of the display Atom-tablets can be quite different depending on the model. For example, the same Acer w510 is equipped with a 10.1 "display. But the Samsung Ativ Smart PC xe500 is already equipped with an 11.6" display.
10. All Atom-plates allow permutated OS, depending on your needs (but with some reservations about them later). For example, on a tablet, you can safely install Windows 7, which is also well suited to be controlled by the touch screen. Or Windows Vista (though this is heresy and terrible :)). Or Windows XP, that uses Tablet Edition supplements can also be adapted for use via the touch screen. Even Windows 2000 / Millenium / 98/95, if you so badly want to. There is only one thing - the driver for the z2760 pure data OS yet (alas, this is a rather strange position of Intel). But, nevertheless, you can always find a compatible driver from the other devices.
But Linux, alas, on this tablet does not put (proof).
11. Most (for example, all the same Acer w510 and Samsung Ativ Smart PC xe500, as well as Asus VivoTab, HP Envy x2) Atom tablets provide the ability to connect a keyboard docking station (which in some cases - again, all the same Acer w510, for example - is also equipped with an additional battery), thanks to which you can turn the tablet into a full-fledged netbook.
12. All Atom-tablets are equipped with 2GB of RAM (alas, without the possibility of expansion, because Atom does not support more memory). However, this amount of RAM is enough for the stable operation of the OS and the performance of everyday work or entertainment tasks.

What are Atom-plates? In the first place, for immediately very successful replacement devices 2 - of the tablet and netbook. The compact and light weight between different plates and those about which there is a speech, there is virtually no difference in terms of usability. In this case due to the high (even compared with other netbooks) performance and connectivity keyboard and mouse (or at the docking station), the data device may be a complete and fully functional working tool, which allows theany software you need (of course, if the hardware performance is enough for it, but in most cases it will be enough :)). And, once again I will pay attention - this device at the same time is still a full-fledged tablet - light, compact, convenient, autonomous.


B)Tablets equipped with an Intel core i3 / i5 / i7 processor. (hereinafter referred to as the Pro-version of the tablets). Typical representative - Microsoft Surface Pro .
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There is no need to talk a lot about mobile intel core processors. We are all very familiar with them thanks to laptops and ultrabooks. In brief, the following can be noted: all of these processors, incl. i3 version, have very high performance (performance indexWindows Experience Indexevaluates the data processors by 6.2 points for the version of core i3, 6.9 points for the version of core i5, 7,3 points for the version of core i7 - very good). At the same time all these processors are fairly low power consumption. Low - by the standards of netbooks. But by the standards of tablets - on the contrary, a record high. At maximum load the plate with the processor will not last more than 4 hours. At minimum load and minimum screen brightness - 8:00 as the maximum. What to do, is pay for performance.
High, by the way, in everything, including in games. Intel HD Graphics 4000 GPU in accordance withrated video cards by notebookcheck site version(in the search line in the ranking, you must enter "intel 4000") gives 4690 parrots in 3d mark06 and takes 222nd place (from, in my opinion, 550) in relation to the other mobile video cards. This is not so bad for an integrated video card. You can be sure that it will be enough to play at medium (or slightly below average) settings in many of the more or less modern games. Let's say Skyrim on my 2nd tablet,Acer iconia w700, gave out FPS in the region of 25 at a resolution of 1600 * 900 with maximum textures and average other settings. So you can be sure that you can play on your tablet in your favorite WoW / World of Tanks / Dota 2 / etc, there would be a keyboard and a mouse at hand :)
It is also worth noting one more detail: almost all tablets are equipped with a processor core i3 / i5 / i7 third generation, Ivy Bridge. But there are also sad exceptions - for example, the same Acer w700 with a processor core i3 modification for RU-region - here the 2nd generation, Sandy Bridge (with the i5 version he is the third generation, oddly enough) . The main significant difference between the 2 nd generation of the third - the fact that the card is not used hd 4000, and more unpretentious hd 3000, which is about 30% weaker than its older version. So if you plan to play on the tablet in a serious game - be careful when choosing a tablet model.

Now the main features of the Pro-version of the tablet:
1. All of them, as you already understood, are equipped with an Intel Core i3 / i5 / i7 processor, in most cases - the 3rd generation.
2. Almost all Pro-tablets are pretty heavy. The same Surface PRO weighs 900 grams,Samsung Ativ Smart PC Pro xe700 - 884, Acer iconia tab w700- as much as 950 grams. But there are relatively easy exceptions - for example, a tablet from a little-known German manufacturerKupa x15- this tablet weighs only 750 grams.
3. All Pro-tablets, without exception, are equipped with an active cooling system. I would not say that they are especially noisy (at low load the fan does not work at all), but, nevertheless, you cannot call them soundless.
4. Most Pro-tablets are equipped with a rather large screen (in comparison with the usual 10.1 on Android tablets). For example, the Samsung Ativ Smart PC Pro Acer w700 screen size is 11.6 inches, while the Microsoft Surface Pro is 10.6. As a result, these tablets are rather cumbersome. But there are, again, exceptions - the same Kupa x15 has compact dimensions and a display of 10.1 inches.
5. All Pro-tablets are equipped with high-quality IPS-matrix display (the name may vary depending on the manufacturer. Let's say Samsung calls its display technology Ativ Smart PC Pro an abbreviation PLS, but, in fact, it's all the same IPS) with full HD resolution (1920 * 1080 pixels). For a large screen diagonal of 11.6 inches, this resolution is quite appropriate. But for less - in question.
6. All Pro-tablets have at least 1 USB 3.0 port, and full-size. And no adapters!
7. All Pro-tablets are equipped with ultra-fast and silent solid-state mSATA version 3 SSD drive with a capacity from 64 to 256 gigabytes. At the same time, in most cases, the hard disk can be replaced on its own for something larger (but only on SSDs. Normal HDDs from laptops will not work).
8. All Pro-tablets, as it was said earlier, can not boast a long battery life. Alas.
9. All Pro-tablets allow you to safely reinstall the OS to any other, incl. Linux.
10. All Pro-tablets can instantly go into sleep mode and return from it. Moreover, the full load of the OS from the off state takes no more than 10 seconds (however, this is a feature of Windows 8 as such, and therefore all other tablets under its control).
11. Some (Samsung Ativ Smart PC Pro xe700, Kupa x15, Razer Edge) Pro-tablets provide the ability to connect a keyboard dock, through which you can turn the tablet into a full-featured ultrabook.
12. Almost all Pro-tablets (exception - Razer Edge modifications Pro) are equipped with 4GB of DDR-3 memory. In some cases (Kupa x15, for example), the memory can be expanded.

What are the Pro-tablets? To replace (not quite full, but more on that later) once 3 devices - tablet, ultrabook and even stationary PC. They are no worse than the usual tablet in functionality and use cases, but it is true, with the significantly heavier and overall. But - with a large display (in most cases). And this is a disadvantage, which has to reconcile. But this ultrabook tablet can replace entirely - because iron is the same weight and dimensions (compared with 11.6 Ultrabook) - are the same. The only difference is that the tablet is versatile. He can do everything the same as ultrabook (when connecting a mouse and keyboard), but at the same time cope with the usual tablet usage scenarios.
Regarding the replacement of a stationary PC - many have already replaced the ultrabook / laptop with a stationary one - thanks to the connection to an external monitor via HDMI when it is required. With these tablets the same story - we connect the monitor and rejoice.
The only thing in which these tablets are inferior to some laptops (but not ultrabooks, if you do not take into account exceptions such as the Asus Zenbook UX32 with the nVidia GT620) is gaming performance. Nevertheless, it is quite enough for the average requirements of modern games.
And, again, not without exceptions - there is a tablet, the gaming performance of which is enough for the most modern and demanding games - thisRazer edge.

Do you want a tablet on full-fledged windows 8, but are you afraid that you may not have enough Atom performance? Then Pro-tablets are your choice! You will get used to the weight of the device over time.


Ii.Why you should buy a tablet on Windows 8 core and Atom instead of a tablet on Windows 8 RT and Tegra 3.
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Immediately it should be noted that all of the following terms does not apply to Pro-tablets. They have their own target audience. And here at RT and Atom tablet audience just pretty similar. Why? Because and Atom- and Rt- plates and approximately equal in weight and size, and battery life. The only difference is that the RT-plates, by definition, are limited in their functionality. After all, they can not install all the programs to which you have become accustomed to over the years on a standard PC. And third tegra already somewhat outdated. . So if there is no difference in usability or tablets, or in battery life time or even in the price (on the contrary, to even cheaper tablets Atom'e same Acer w510 costs just 20 thousand rubles, together with docking station - much cheaper RT analogues) - why restrict yourself to consciously?
And do not be afraid of Atom'a. These are the old processors of this line were full junk. A new very decent.


Iii.Comparison of various tablets running Windows 8 with the intel Atom processor.
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For now let me copy my own post a month ago from a topic about win-8 tablets. The information is slightly outdated, and it is not complete (there is no information about, say, the HP Envy x2 tablet, which is already being sold in Russia). But now there is no strength to supplement :) Then I will finish.
Mortare @ 09.12.2012, 18:02*
A) Lenovo ThinkPad 2 (http://www.computeruniverse.ru/products/90491248/lenovo-thinkpad-tablet-2-n3s2pge-wifi.asp)- 18500 rubles.
Pros:
1. Only 18.5k rubles, the cheapest option.
2. Atom with 1.8GHz
3. The easiest among the available options - only 565 grams.
4. Stylus (well, what if you need it)
5. Have a GPS
Minuses:
1. Only 32GB Winchester. We'll have to put an SD card, preferably Class 10. 32GB of this will cost 800 rubles, 64GB in 1800, 128GB in 3300.
2. There is a docking station in the form of a keyboard. Not deadly, because You can connect usb / bluetooth to Claudia, but still.

B) Acer Iconia Tab W511 (http://www.computeruniverse.ru/products/90490961/acer-iconia-tab-w511-27602g06iss-3g.asp)- 23,500 rubles.
Pros:
1. 64GB Winchester.
2. Atom with 1.8 GHz.
3. A little heavier than lenovo - 580 g.
4. There is a built-in 3g (a bit more convenient than an Internet from a phone via wifi).
5. There is a docking keyboard included.
Minuses:
1. Date of sale - later than other tablets.

B) Samsung ATIV Smart PC XE500 (http://www.computeruniverse.ru/products/90486839/samsung-ativ-smart-pc-xe500t1c-a01.asp)- 23,500 rubles.
Pros:
1. The display is 11.6 inches.
2. 64 GB Winchester.
3. Stylus.
4. Dock keyboard.
Minuses:
1. Atom is only 1.5 GHz - and so the percentage is far from the most powerful, and here also the frequency is underestimated.
2. Heavy - 744 grams (the description on CU is lying about 300 grams. On the site of the Samsung website it is indicated exactly 744)

D) Asus ASUS Vivo Tab (http://www.computeruniverse.ru/products/90486791/asus-vivo-tab-tf810c-1b025w.aspOn the page typo, this is RT, because worth Atom, not the ARM processor) - 27,000 rubles.
Pros:
1. 11.6 inches display.
2. 64 GB Winchester.
3. 1.8 GHz atom.
Minuses:
1. No USB - in my opinion, this is a complete star.
2. Price. More expensive than other options.
3. No card reader - you can not increase the memory of SD cards. Disgusting.
4. Heavy - 675 gr.
5. So far not supplied with the docking station (although the MB has already solved this problem).
IMHO, the most unfortunate of all the options.



Iv.Comparison of various tablets running Windows 8 with an intel core i3 / i5 / i7 processor
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Same story as with Atom'ami. It is a bit out of date, and at least 2 tablets are missing - Kupa x15 and Razer Edge, but it will still be useful for many. I will add later.
Mortare @ 09.12.2012, 22:08*
A) Acer iconia w700 c core i3 and 64GB ssd (http://www.computeruniverse.ru/products/90491018/acer-iconia-tab-w700-323b4g06as.asp)- 23,500 rubles, in Russia prices from 25,000
Pros:
1. Price, availability: just for 25,000 you can buy it now, in Russia (http://www.tehnosila.ru/catalog/kompjutery_i_orgtehnika/planshety/-/83139/).For me personally, this was the deciding factor.
2. Good equipment - docking station, case, bluetooth keyboard (optional).
3. The display diagonal is 11.6 inches (1920 x 1080, but this is the resolution of all tablets of the new generation on the core i3 / i5 / i7. But the diagonal is not).
4. Very high quality speakers and sound card. Used technology Dolby digital theater.
Minuses:
1. A stripped-down version of core i3 - 2365M, just 1.4 GHz. As a result, not a hd graphics 4000, but a hd graphics 3000 acts as a GPU. A version with a full-featured i3-3217U 1.7GHz + hd graphics 4000 exists, but it is much more difficult to find it - officially there will not seem to be models supplied to Russia.
2. Weight. 950 gr. - the hardest of all win8 tablets.
3. No card reader. Increasing the amount of memory only by replacing the SSD with a more capacious one - and replacing it seems damn difficult due to the design of the case.
4. Stupid docking station without a keyboard. There is nothing in it (no additional acb, no network card), only 3 usb ports and a stand. As a result, the w700 is still not a kind of transforming tablet, unlike those that will be discussed below.
5. Versions with 3g do not exist in nature.

Verdict: the cheapest version of the pro-version of the new generation of win8 tablets, it is also the least productive. But it is available now.

B) Acer iconia w700 with core i5 and 128GB SSD (http://www.computeruniverse.ru/products/90491019/acer-iconia-tab-w700-53314g12as.asp)- 30300 rubles

pros
1. Value for money.
2. Good equipment - docking station, case, bluetooth keyboard (optional).
3. Diagonal display 11.6 inches.
4. Core i5 1.7GHz with HD graphics 4000 with auto overclocking technology support.
5. Very high quality speakers and sound card. Used technology Dolby digital theater.
Minuses:
2. Weight - 950 gr.
3. No card reader.
4. Stupid docking station without a keyboard. There is nothing in it (no additional acb, no network card), only 3 usb ports and a stand.
5. Versions with 3g do not exist in nature.
6. In Russia, nowhere to buy.

Verdict: a variant characterized by good performance, adequate SSD volume and price, but at the same time inferior to its peers in terms of weight and functionality (no card reader, no versions with 3g).


B) Samsung Ativ smart PC pro XE700 64gb (http://www.samsung.com/en/consumer/computers-peripherals/notebooks/ereader/XE700T1C-A01RU-spec)price from 42,000 rubles in Russia
Pros:
1. Core i5 1.7GHz with HD graphics 4000 with auto overclocking technology support.
2. 11.6 inches diagonal display.
3. There is a slot for microSD - you can increase the amount of memory without replacing the SSD (because this is a micro SD, the maximum available memory is 64GB. It will cost 1800 rubles for class 10).
4. The presence of the Wacom substrate and the stylus.
5. Easier analogues - 880 gr.
6. Full docking station with keyboard and touchpad.
7. Available for purchase in Russia now.
Minuses:
1. A fairly high price at the time of the start of sales. I am sure that soon thousands will fall by 5-7, if not more.
2. A version with 3g exists, but it can only be purchased starting in January.

Verdict: good performance and functionality, but at the same time too small amount of SSD for such a price.

D) Samsung Ativ smart PC pro XE700 128GB (http://www.samsung.com/en/consumer/computers-peripherals/notebooks/ereader/XE700T1C-A02RU-spec)- price in Russia from 47,000 rubles.
Pros:
1. Core i5 1.7GHz with HD graphics 4000 with auto overclocking technology support.
2. 11.6 inches diagonal display.
3. There is a slot for microSD - you can increase the amount of memory without replacing the SSD
4. The presence of the Wacom substrate and the stylus.
5. Easier analogues - 880 gr.
6. Full docking station with keyboard and touchpad.
7. Available for purchase in Russia now.
Minuses:
1. A fairly high price at the time of the start of sales.
2. A version with 3g exists, but it can only be purchased starting in January.

Verdict: good performance and functionality, an adequate amount of SSD. The price is appropriate

Next come the tablets, which are not available for sale even abroad. Not much is known about them, let’s compare what we know about.

D) Microsoft Surface Pro 64Gb / 128gb Touch Cover, core i5 - estimated price around $ 900.
Pros:
1. A good price-quality ratio, if they really sell for the stated $ 900 (of course, in Russia the price will be double-charged, but this is a separate conversation).
2. Built-in keyboard cover, it is also a stand.
3. There is a slot for microSD.
Minuses:
1. 10.6 inches diagonal display.
2. Heavy for such sizes - 900 gr.
3. Versions with 3g do not exist in nature.
4. Start of sales - in January.

Verdict: if it is sold in Russia no more than 34,000 for the version with 64GB and 38,000 for 128GB, this is quite a decent option. Otherwise, it loses its counterparts.

E) Asus Transformer Book 128GB - estimated price of $ 1600.
pros
1. Display size - 13.3 inches. Although for the tablet it may be a drawback.
2. Core i7.
3. Docking station, which includes an additional 500GB hard drive, a network card, an additional sound card (?), Keyboard, touchpad. In fact, it is a collapsible laptop.
4. Must go on sale this month.
5. There is a slot for microSD.
Minuses:
1. Price.
2. This is not quite a tablet - with such dimensions and screen sizes.

Verdict: if the screen size does not confuse and there is an opportunity to buy - definitely take it. More powerful among the tablets is nothing yet.


Conclusion:
A) If money allows, it is worth buying a Samsung Smart PC pro with a 128GB SSD for 47000, because for that amount it offers the best functionality. There is nothing better for sale yet.
B) If you are ready to spend on the tablet no more than 30-35 thousand, it makes sense either to wait for the price reduction, or order an Acer w700 with a core i5 and 128GB from abroad. For his money, he is very good, but, truth, almost in all he loses to the more expensive Samsung.
C) If you don’t want to wait for a reduction in prices / delivery, and the budget is 25-30 thousand, your only choice is w700 with core i3. However, sooner or later it is necessary to spend money on a more capacious SSD. 64GB, which cannot be supplemented with anything - this is hardly enough for a tablet with such a performance (after all, it is possible to play modern toys in it, unlike tablets on the Atom, and they are heavy). However, even with the add. SSD costs, this version of the w700 is worth the money.
D) If you don’t want to buy exactly Acer w700, and you can’t afford other pro-tablets, then you should pay attention to the Atom-based tablets (I reviewed in an earlier report). As an option, there is a version of Samsung Smart PC pro 700 with 64GB SSD and Pentium 987 for 32,000 rubles. Something in between core i3 / i5 / 7 and Atom's.



V. Small conclusion.
All of the above is purely my personal opinion, based on facts, but in no way does it advertise Windows OS or any specific devices.
The task is to help those who are not familiar with Windows tablets yet, to understand what it is and what advantages / disadvantages it has.
But, again, you should not take it for the ultimate truth, or assume that I, with my point of view, claim a similar role. By no means! Think for yourself, decide for yourself, but if you want to debate and you have something to object to on the essence of the question - you are welcome, I will be very interested. The main thing is not to go beyond the topic :)
You can read my opinion on the advantages of Windows 8 on tablets over Android and iOS inthis message. From the starting message, this part was taken out in order not to provoke excessive discussions off topic.

Post has been editedkoordinator - 20.02.14, 09:54
Reason for editing: +1 from deepel, +1 from sub84, +1 from ApostolDK, +1 from JurasskPark



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Why a tablet on Windows 8, and not an android?

Why a Windows tablet, not an iPad?


Scuba After such a suitable throw-in from a stream of liquid faeces, only a scuba will save you.

Threat is a very subjective and one-sided comparison with android and iOS. After such a comparison, you trust less the rest of the theses of the post.

ZZY to be honest, the reviews on the same habrahabr, for example, and similar resources with I have formed a slightly different impression about vin8

ZZZY Ksta, while I really like the vinfon 7. Although it has a lot of deficiencies that will eliminate, I hope, in 7.8. But this Windows is purely for phones.



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Scuba After such a suitable throw-in from a stream of liquid faeces, only a scuba will save you.

So I'm ready for this (: The main thing is that opponents have adequate arguments.
Such a topic cannot fail to evoke such a response, because the Windows on the tablet is in itself a provocation for some local activists (:

Threat is a very subjective and one-sided comparison with android and iOS. After such a comparison, you trust less the rest of the theses of the post.

I did not deny that I set forth my own considerations, and not something that claims to be objective. As for the other theses, practically each of them is supported by one or another prooflink, and, therefore, relies on more or less weighty arguments.
To be honest, the reviews on the same habrahabr, for example, and similar resources with I have formed a slightly different impression of win8

What I have outlined above is based on my personal experience of using three different Windows tablets. Acer w500 on amd c-60, Acer w700 on core i3 and Acer w510 on Atom z2760.
What they describe on Habré: their personal experience or the weather on Mars in the form of a theorycraft divorced from life is another matter entirely.



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Mortare, Oh well


And now at least imagine how many Windows applications have been written in the entire history of this OS? That's the same thing. And each of them can be run on your tablet!

Lying

The absence of any depending on the manufacturer. Disappointed that Samsung has scored update your valuable Galaxy Tab 2, which is less than a year ago was the top-end? Going to buy some new tablet for a decent amount - just in order to a year and a half, it has turned into an obsolete stuff? Are you really want it? If not, Windows - Again, your choice. After all, you can always put on your plate is a new OS when it comes out - and it's no more difficult than to put 8ku your current laptop / hospital.

Lying. Updating Windows for a specific device depends, roughly speaking, on the availability of a driver for this device, which means again from the manufacturer. This is without regard to custom.

5. Tired before leaving the house to think, what to take with you - an Android tablet or a netbook / laptop / ultrabook? After all, you don’t work on the tablet, but with a laptop you don’t read books / don’t watch movies / don’t play / on the long road, for it’s inconvenient. So why puzzle? Take Windows tablet, which will replace you at once these two devices - and it will be convenient to use them in both cases!

Transformers on Android

3. And yes, you for years of use of iOS did not bother the monotonous interface? Well, admit it, most of you are already standing across the throat. And I would like to change, yes it is impossible - I don’t want to do jail at all. Yes, and go to the android, because after iOS it is a solid lagodrome.

under the diverse interface Metro tiles mean?)

This is so, offhand)



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Lying

And in what? Do you think that in the 18 years of the existence of the windows operating system, less software has been released under it than for the android in 4 years? Well, even the comments are not required.
Or is it possible to install all this software on a tablet? Why not? What will hurt? Windows 8 claims backward compatibility with applications down to windows 95, and I haven’t yet seen a single meaningful and unsolvable example that could disprove this.
Or are you talking about iron? After all, everything here is extremely obvious: the performance potential of the z2760 was clearly marked. As for i5 / i7 - well, call at least one windows-application (except for the top toys, by itself - and they were mentioned separately), which will not work on it?
Lying. Updating Windows for a specific device depends, roughly speaking, on the availability of a driver for this device, which means again from the manufacturer. This is without regard to custom.

Never. Firstly, the backward compatibility of drivers is another feature announced in windows 8 - and I don’t think it will be abandoned in windows 9, 10, 100500.
In other words, both the drivers for 7ku are suitable for hardware under the 8k, and the drivers for 8ku will be compatible with the new OS. Anyway, if MS does not change the policy of compatibility - and I see no reason to assume that this should happen.
Transformers on Android

Transformers only provide access to a convenient working periphery. But where is the software? After all, everyone knows that comfortable working on Android at least problematic. Well, you can be patient, yes, suffer with the office, which is 30 seconds opens a document, presentation editor, who does not read half of the standard fonts and images on slides which always leave not there where they were supposed to be - it is possible. But why, if all this is possible without any problems to do on Windows and familiar MS office?
under the diverse interface Metro tiles mean?)

Well, at least. They at least customize the style of the wallpaper and the color scheme. This is more than iOS allows.
In addition, the opportunity to install various themes under windows 8 was promised. Honestly, I didn’t check if these themes are freely available, but again I don’t think that sooner or later there will not be any custom solution like VistaGlazz for 7k.
This is so, offhand)

AND? In my opinion, there are no problems, everything is reasoned. You can and not offhand, please (:



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Well, at least. They at least customize the style of the wallpaper and the color scheme. This is more than iOS allows.

Well, under Jos, you can change the photo on the desktop. This is instead of the color of the title of windows and tiles. Talking about the diversity of the Metro interface is not ice.

Or is it possible to install all this software on a tablet? Why not? What will hurt? Windows 8 claims backward compatibility with applications down to windows 95, and I haven’t yet seen a single meaningful and unsolvable example that could disprove this.

That is, in Windows XP, Vista, Windows 7, the reverse compatibility constantly deteriorated, and in Windows 8 it was dramatically raised to an ideal state?

Firstly, the backward compatibility of drivers is another feature announced in windows 8 - and I don’t think it will be abandoned in windows 9, 10, 100500.
In other words, both the drivers for 7ku are suitable for hardware under the 8k, and the drivers for 8ku will be compatible with the new OS. Anyway, if MS does not change the policy of compatibility - and I see no reason to assume that this should happen.

similar to the previous one. So that something, and firewood under Windows - it has always been one of the most fragile places of the system.


Transformers only provide access to a convenient working periphery. But where is the software? After all, everyone knows that comfortable working on Android at least problematic. Well, you can be patient, yes, suffer with the office, which is 30 seconds opens a document, presentation editor, who does not read half of the standard fonts and images on slides which always leave not there where they were supposed to be - it is possible. But why, if all this is possible without any problems to do on Windows and familiar MS office?

I will act slyly and ask another question) with the working software everything is clear, what about the game? If you play with a docking station, then this is the same netbook. And without a docking station? Infiti blade and nova3 for win8 do not rush to port, and Diablo3 and contra are designed to control with clave. What can win8 tablet without keyboard with mouse? far less than android or ios.

In general, the advantages are very much praised and not a single minus is indicated. Somewhat strange for "In order to fill this gap in the knowledge of the majority, as well as help with the choice of a tablet on this OS, I will try to combine in one message the maximum useful information about this type of device."
For example, how about the presence of two modes of desktop and confusion between them, tight binding of the program to the type of desktop?



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Mortare,
In general, as follows (everything that follows is my IMHO ...):
1) Windows 8 RT. This is a big misunderstanding. In appearance of Windows for BB no different. But, once - for the installation of burning software need to jailbreak, and by the reviews it is not stable and the user will find a lot of surprises. Furthermore - these themselves prog for 3 months of the existence of Windows strongly was no more - yes, a certain minimum is, but you can forget about games in general. Next - runtime 10:00? Yes, the god that at least 6 hours spent ... As for convenience yuzaniya too silent - on Standard IE is just a yr, third-party browsers once or twice a handful, plus they are very long curves ... So Hg wines will rival droid IES and yet sooo long time ...
2) Windows 8 + Atom. Well, it's not funny, to be honest ... Older atom with Intel GMA 3150 - proca index of 2.5-2.8, 2.9-3.1 game. New intel atom - 3.0-3.3 percent, 3.1-3.3 game. Those. the difference in performance is almost no (well, maybe just the video will normally twist). And what is the old atom, all well know - is the game until 2005, and easy Internet-surfing. Yes, plus the wines 8 though remained on the system requirements at the level of 7, eats a lot more. The only advantage of these new tablets - a passive cooling and real autonomous long - up to 12-14 hours. But in fact it is the same netbook atom.
3) Windows 8 PRO + Intel Core. Well, that's better, but still garbage. First - vidyuha for games is very so-so, especially on the FHD. Well, that is 2012 Games are on the most-low 2011 low 2010 on medium-low. Those. uproar in theory it is possible. And now we go to practice. If the laptop this vidyuhi temperature Buttle 3 is approaching 65 degrees (in this case on the laptop excellent cooling system) - that a tablet housing with feeble cooler is under 90. Obviously, at this temperature the game will be short. As for autonomy, too, sadness and longing - in films well, most hours 6. Oh, and most importantly - to play on the touch screen without a mouse and Claudia will not work, if only because that 99.999% of the games do not know multitouch, RMB, you also do not do.
General notes on all items - Microsoft likes to step on the same rake. As there was a stupid sensor in wines 7, so in wines 8 it remained - menus of the same size, there is no replacement for the PCM, lagging multitouch. But this is not the worst - worst of all is the lack of software for the sensor - in the same chrome for wine 8, rewinding with a finger like in a droid and ios does not work. You need to accurately aim and get into the slider on the right. Isolation in the same chrome is also inconvenient ...
As for the docks - well, this is a song in general ... What kind of person in his right mind and solid memory will take a tablet + dock and not an ultrabook? It will be both easier and cheaper (please do not be indignant of sofa inhabitants - there are ultrabooks that have the key rotated 180 degrees and will not interfere.)
Well, at the very end - while IMHO the best mobile device on the wines 8 is a slider from Sony. Firstly, it is small, secondly, quite powerful (i7 + xd4000 + 8 GB of RAM), and in the third it is a NORMAL cooler. The only and most significant disadvantage is the price for 80 rubles ....
Denarg,
1) He is right - on wines 8 REALLY you can run games and applications from wines 95 - he himself is in the tower of the gamal and in the trucker 1.
2) About firewood. The question is - why do you need new ones every month? I have all the drivers on my computer still from wines 7 - I don’t touch them, they work fine. I update the firewood only from vidyuh (they add support for new din there). The same thing here - the iron is already far from new, firewood under vidyuhi is on the Intel site, so if the manufacturer forgets about the device, there will be no problems.
In all other respects, I agree with you.

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Well, under Jos, you can change the photo on the desktop. This is instead of the color of the title of windows and tiles. Talking about the diversity of the Metro interface is not ice.

So in Windows you can change the wallpaper on the desktop. This is in addition to the tiles. Not to mention the topics that, I am sure, even if they are absent now, will appear later.
In addition, please note: I didn’t talk about it in the wrong part, which is dedicated to the advantages of Windows 8 over the android (I don’t argue, the interface is even more customizable on the bucket), but in the one about iOS. Well, won't you deny that iOS is much more primitive in this respect?
o in vin hp, whist, vin7, the reverse compatibility constantly deteriorated, and in vin8 it was dramatically raised to an ideal state?

In XP, yes, compatibility was sad. I do not argue the same. But in 7K it became significantly better with her. So why not believe the MS statement that the trend towards improvement has been preserved in the new OS - at least until this statement is not properly refuted?
similar to the previous one. So that something, and firewood under Windows - it has always been one of the most fragile places of the system.

However, when installing drivers written for 7k, everything works correctly on 8k. And what is the catch here? .. (:
Infiti blade and nova3 for win8 do not rush to port, and Diablo3 and contra are designed to control with clave. What can win8 tablet without keyboard with mouse? far less than android or ios.

First of all, almost all strategies, both step-by-step and RTS, are very playable using touchscreen. It is a pity that no one keeps statistics on how many of these strategies were released for 18 years under Windows - as if it did not turn out to be more than all games under a bucket as a whole (: Well, okay.
Secondly, various logical and arcade games that are focused on mouse control. Well, I don’t argue, there are not so many of them, but you can’t call a small number.
And thirdly ... And this, as they say, "the last nail in the lid of the coffin of android" - there is such a nice program, Hot Virtual Keyboard is called. It allows you to create a fully customizable virtual keyboard, where you can bind to each key not just the button of a physical keyboard, but even a macro from several actions.
So. We take this program. Configure the keyboard for a specific game. Make it should be exactly 1 times - and then save the key settings in the profile file. Open the customized keyboard, run any toy (formerly Hot Virtual Keyboard only worked in windowed mode, now, as far as I know, supports full screen) - and - profit - quiet play, instead of pressing physical keys are virtual. I, thanks to this keyboard (well, as well as the addon bartender, by which is conveniently located abilities on the right edge of the display), in his time at the w500 experiment for in WoW ottanchil its dca couple of new heroics kata (if the mop is not yet out) - so Now, no problem, a little unusually, of course, requires the development of, and Blood dk - this, of course, never a piano. But still - WoW playable on your tablet! Android can boast such? (:
In general, the advantages are very much praised and not a single minus is indicated.

And I didn’t call the topic "comparison of windows 8 with android OS and iOS". I described the tablets on Windows, and, at the same time, gave a number of arguments that distinguish these devices from their peers. Everything.
In addition, even if I tried, I wouldn’t have occurred to any serious minus of Windows compared to these operating systems. Well, except that the price of such tablets - yes, it is very high and in the budget, but even the middle segment never fits. This is a fact, I agree. The presence of viruses can be called a minus of Windows, I do not argue. But so they are under the bucket, only iOS does not have them.
As for the "split interface" - and who said that this is a problem? On the contrary, many people point out as a significant plus that it is clearly understood which applications can be conveniently used with the help of a touchscreen (metro, respectively), and which with the help of a mouse and keyboard (desktop). The fact that these applications are clearly separated, and not mixed in one pile is a huge plus.



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Mortare,
Part I and II liked it, and where the OS is being compared, this is a holivar provocation, and this is the direct route to the section.Meat grinder. Therefore, removing these subjective parts, you can safely send the material to the cap.

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Mortare, as always, your topics are expensive, thanks for the detailed information :)



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Denarg
The author of the post bothered to provide his statements with references, in order to maintain an adequate level of discussion, work hard and you provide proof, under your exclamations.



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1) He is right - on wines 8 REALLY you can run games and applications from wines 95 - he himself is in the tower of the gamal and in the trucker 1.
2) About firewood. The question is - why do you need new ones every month? I have all the drivers on my computer still from wines 7 - I don’t touch them, they work fine. I update the firewood only from vidyuh (they add support for new din there). The same thing here - the iron is already far from new, firewood under vidyuhi is on the Intel site, so if the manufacturer forgets about the device, there will be no problems.

therefore, put question marks, because he was not up to date. Judged by previous versions

The author of the post bothered to provide his statements with references, in order to maintain an adequate level of discussion, work hard and you provide proof, under your exclamations.

if not difficult, for what exactly my "exclamations" do you need proofs?

First of all, almost all strategies, both step-by-step and RTS, are very playable using touchscreen.

more than debatable. Play sk2 multiplayer without hotkeys?)

And thirdly ... And this, as they say, "the last nail in the lid of the coffin of android" - there is such a nice program, Hot Virtual Keyboard is called. It allows you to create a fully customizable virtual keyboard, where you can bind to each key not just the button of a physical keyboard, but even a macro from several actions.
So. We take this program. Configure the keyboard for a specific game. Make it should be exactly 1 times - and then save the key settings in the profile file. Open the customized keyboard, run any toy (formerly Hot Virtual Keyboard only worked in windowed mode, now, as far as I know, supports full screen) - and - profit - quiet play, instead of pressing physical keys are virtual. I, thanks to this keyboard (well, as well as the addon bartender, by which is conveniently located abilities on the right edge of the display), in his time at the w500 experiment for in WoW ottanchil its dca couple of new heroics kata (if the mop is not yet out) - so Now, no problem, a little unusually, of course, requires the development of, and Blood dk - this, of course, never a piano. But still - WoW playable on your tablet!

WoW is a separate case, there are already buttons on the screen)
What part of the screen is this clave eating?



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Mortare,
Oh, I did not read the whole cap. Because In ios, while a novice, I’ll sort point 2 apart. So:
And for windows 8, the “freeze” phenomenon does not exist by definition! Rejoice smooth interface? And for Windows 8, the norm is not only smooth, but also stylish animation!
A slowdown IS, and their dofiga. Even on Intel Core 7. Stylish animation - which is the first time in HP appeared? There are much more animations on Android, and they can be changed / accelerated using 1 program.
Are you happy that a multi-window in the form of 2 windows finally appeared? 2 windows, pfff ... In Windows 8, you can open as many as you need - and it will be convenient!
Sir, under the droid, you can also open a bunch of windows. It is difficult to call it convenient on a 10-inch screen, both under Windows and under a droid.
Pull the nose with your "real multi-tasking system"
Hmm ... Debris lies ... You have on the note there is such a touch button at the bottom, the third on the left. She switches. Further. Show me a tablet on Windows, which can switch from one game to another and immediately continue to play, without dependencies and glitches? But under the droid it is real - the games were GTA Vice City and new 3.
A variety of software.
Yep I agree. Let's play in the NSF on the tablet, or in the office work. Yes, even in the internet normally try to sit! Under the droid, all 700,000 progs are adapted to the sensor, under Windows, God forbid 500.
The ability to connect any peripherals via USB
And the worse the droid? It is even better - there is no need for firewood, absolutely any device immediately starts working, and not swinging for a couple of seconds as under Windows.
No dependence on the manufacturer
Again - no one forces you to sit on off prosh. Support has ended - at least the next year-year will be normal custom. And the tablets under Windows are clearly not game (if they are now hard to pull the games - what will happen next year, two?), But under the droid, they are almost all like that (even the Chinese tablets pull all the modern games).
Tired before leaving the house to think, what should I take with me - an Android tablet or a netbook / laptop / ultrabook?
If you are not a narrow specialist and you need a device for surfing / video / simply editing documents / games, then the droid will go 100%.
As for the last nail, there is RuKeyboard Pro. This is a clave that can be called up in ANY application, you can also assign some keys.

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1) Windows 8 RT. This is a big misunderstanding. In appearance of Windows for BB no different. But, once - for the installation of burning software need to jailbreak, and by the reviews it is not stable and the user will find a lot of surprises. Furthermore - these themselves prog for 3 months of the existence of Windows strongly was no more - yes, a certain minimum is, but you can forget about games in general. Next - runtime 10:00? Yes, the god that at least 6 hours spent ... As for convenience yuzaniya too silent - on Standard IE is just a yr, third-party browsers once or twice a handful, plus they are very long curves ... So Hg wines will rival droid IES and yet sooo long time ...

I do not argue at all, RT - file itself. That is why I wrote the reasons why you should not buy a tablet on windows RT. But, on the other hand, since I took up writing about all windows tablets, could I not ignore this kind of tablets?
On account of battery life does not agree. According to user feedback, there are 10 hours there. In general, a little strange, given the fact that it is a misery in terms of energy efficiency - the third game. But, perhaps, the system interacts with it exactly as intended?
IE is a subjective matter. I'm here from him (of course, we are talking about his metro part) in complete delight.
As for the applications in the market - so this is a childhood disease of any new OS. How many programs were available for Android 1.6, for example? Hardly much more.
But yes, essentially it does not change: who needs windows RT, when there are other windows tablets?
2) Windows 8 + Atom. Well, this is no longer funny, to be honest ... The old atom with intel 3150 is an index of 2.5-2.8, games 2.9-3.1. New Intel Atom - Percent 3.0-3.3, Games 3.1-3.3. Those. there is practically no difference in performance (well, maybe only the video will turn normally). And what is the old atom, everyone knows well -This games until 2005 and easy internet surfing. Yes, and plus to this wine 8 though remained on the system requirements at level 7, eats much more. The only advantage of these new tablets is passive cooling and a really long autonomy - up to 12-14 hours. But essentially same netbook on atom .

Here it is, the traditional fear of the atom (: What I wrote in the 1st message. Yes, no one believes that the new atom is an adequate processor, but, nevertheless, it is. Of those cases, when you need to make sure personally to understand (:
As for those theses that I highlighted in bold in your post - so after all I wrote about this almost word-for-word:
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However, for all it has to pay. In the case of Atom'ami main disadvantage is the poor GPU (integrated video adapter). As a result, particularly in the desktop to play games on this tablet will not work. Or rather, it will not work in today. But in the relatively old - issued before the year 2005 - completely. For example, in my aforementioned Acer w510 at native resolution (1366 * 768) and maximum settings Unreat Tournament 2004 gave the FPS in the area 20, which is not bad. So play good old classic game development on these plates can be completely (:

In fact, it would be appropriate to consider this category of tablets as a special kind of very light (from 580 grams) touchscreen netbooks, but without a non-removable physical keyboard.

What are Atom tablets for? First of all, for a very successful replacement of 2 devices at once - the tablet and netbook itself.


So, yes - a tablet on an atom is, in fact, the same netbook. But why only is it a minus? Netbooks are used by many people for work (it is clear that they are not a business segment, but rather ordinary citizens - well, so what? These are also consumers), they have a lot of advantages. And if you add to them also the comfort of using a tablet - it’s generally a marvelous thing ((:
The first is vidyuha for games very so-so, on FHD all the more. Well, that is 2012 games go to the lowest, 2011 to the lowest, 2010 to the lowest. Those. din in theory can be.

Well, in fact, everything is a little better: 2012 games are on “slightly below average” (by itself, not on FHD, but on 1366 * 768 - so why is it higher then?), 2011 is just on average (even 1600 * 900 can be expose), 2010 is a fairy tale in general. Gammat is possible not in theory, but in practice (:
If on a laptop with this video, the temperature in Battle 3 approaches 65 degrees (while the laptop has an excellent cooling system), then in the case of a tablet with a weak cooler it will be under 90.

No, no, no, cooling in the new tablet established on Pyaterochka. However, there are nuances - for example, at least at the Acer w700 CPU temperature is almost never rose past 70 degrees, 60 degrees turn on throttling, ie artificially low frequency of the processor to avoid overheating (at least 60 plus or minus 10 degrees - this is quite the operating temperature for the i5). In general, the manufacturer jamb. But at the same Samsung Ativ Smart PC Pro xe700 this does not happen, and on Acer'e corrected sooner or later.
About the game and the touch screen all wrote in the post above.
In the same chrome under wine 8, rewinding with a finger does not work as in a droid and ios.

Yes, why is it needed when there is IE 10? And yes, even if in the subway-chrome now it does not work correctly scrolling - I bet you that it will work in the next patch (:
In general, the 8k sensor is controlled quite well. It is only necessary to set the scale of the interface elements to 125% or 150% - to whom it is more convenient.
Which person in his right mind and solid memory will take a tablet + dock and not an ultrabook?

Any sane? After all, instead of two devices (ultrabook + tablet on a bucket / iOS), you get one that can replace these two (: Or do you think that the more devices, the better? And for me, this is inconvenient.



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Mortare,
1) Well, like ok)
2) I have a netbook on an atom myself. Work on it is sooo hard. If you have enough patience. Inet is the same - podlagivaet, and 2 GB of opera is very small. Marvelous thing? Fully working on the sensor? It is not possible yet.
3) Mlyn, she is in my lap. And I know perfectly well that it pulls and what does not. As for why FHD - then not to see a daub, secondly, Battle 3 on the middle you will hardly go on it (I have the least amount of smoothing in FHD - and that podlagivaet ...)
4) Yeah, of course, there are turbo coolers, so I really believed. For half an hour the game is enough, and then you will find a blue screen of death. I repeat once again - with the same vidyukha I have quite a strong heat.
5) IE 10 is something. In speed, it is much inferior to the same chrome, in terms of functionality, it is also not up to par.
6) Mlyn ... Looks like you're a fan of wines 8: D! Well, do not replace the laptop tablet, well, no way. Well, it is not convenient to work on the sensor!

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After all, instead of two devices (ultrabook + tablet on a bucket / iOS), you get one that can replace these two

Capturing the flaws of both.



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Part I and II liked, and where the OS is being compared, this is a holivar provocation, and this is the direct route to the Meat mincer. Therefore, removing these subjective parts, you can safely send the material to the cap.

Okay, okay, persuaded, I agree (: I just could not refrain from reasoning on the topic: who needs iOS and Android when there is a Windows? After all, for me it is still a mystery (: But ok, I will remove these arguments directly from the start-post, placing them in the topic itself is a separate post.
more than debatable. Play sk2 multiplayer without hotkeys?)

Oh, why? Isn't it just nice to just play ck2 somewhere on the road in your free time? No, well, it is clear that there is no limit to perfection (and here it’s even more so to further improve and perfect), but what is already there is in itself great. And it will be even better (:
What part of the screen is this clave eating?

I had the following: on the left side of the screen there are 6 arrows: forward, backward, turn right, turn left, strafe right, strafe left. On the right side of the screen is a group of 12 abilities laid out in the form of a rectangle. All the icons are quite small, but you can still click without missing. It took up a total of about one quarter of the screen — half the bottom left corner and half the bottom right (i.e., 1/2 of 1/4 + 1/2 of 1/4).
And this is despite the fact that the display of the w500 is only 10.1 inches. Many Pro-tablets have a noticeably larger screen, and they will be more comfortable playing on them.
A slowdown IS, and their dofiga. Even on Intel Core 7. Stylish animation - which is the first time in HP appeared? There are much more animations on Android, and they can be changed / accelerated using 1 program.

I don't know. I had no brakes on the atom, nor on the core i3, not even on amd c-60. What am I doing wrong? What are we doing wrong - all those people who installed windows 8 on one or another tablet and at the same time do not observe brakes?
Sir, under the droid, you can also open a bunch of windows. It is difficult to call it convenient on a 10-inch screen, both under Windows and under a droid.

Personally, I heard about two windows as the main innovation of Jelly Bean. If not right - correct.
Hmm ... Debris lies ... You have on the note there is such a touch button at the bottom, the third on the left. She beggars switches

Yeah, but where is the list of these most prog, aka taskbar, which would allow to track online the entire list of running applications? Yes, on the same note it is not necessary, but on a 10.1 tablet it is very even. So, where is he?
Show me a tablet on Windows, which can switch from one game to another and immediately continue to play, without dependencies and glitches?

Yes please, as much as you like.
Acer w700, Samsung Ativ Smart PC Pro, Microsoft Surface Pro, Kupa x15, Razer Edge. Take the links in the header.
No dependencies and glitches when switching even between the same Skyrim and, say, 3 disciples. Oh yeah, these games are not here in high esteem. After all, we now have the 3rd GTA - the top of technical progress (:
Yep I agree. Let's play in the NSF on the tablet, or in the office work.

NFS on the tablet? With hot virtual keyboard - easy! Office using touchscreen? There is nothing easier - MS Office 2013, adapted for the sensor. For everything else, there is a master card (:
And the worse the droid? It is even better - there is no need for firewood, absolutely any device immediately starts working, and not swinging for a couple of seconds as under Windows.

Yah? And how to run LTE Yota modem on it, for example, without flashing? This is not even installing drivers, it is even worse.
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And what for me custom, written by someone unknown, unknown as, unknown with what jambs, if there is an official OS, checked and constantly updated?
And the tablets under Windows are clearly not gaming.

Oh, ho-ho, it means modern ultrabooks (we are talking about Pro-tablets right now, right? That the atom is not for games, and so we all know, even if I wrote about this 2-3 times more) - so Are modern ultrabooks suitable for gaming less than android crafts? Well, you tell it to Blizzard, for example. Potsany is not aware that the platform was wrong.

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2) I have a netbook on an atom myself. Work on it is sooo hard. If you have enough patience. Inet is the same - podlagivaet, and 2 GB of opera is very small. Marvelous thing? Fully working on the sensor? It is not possible yet.

Is that exactly the z2760? I do not believe. With this processor, not a single netbook has been released yet. Not z2760? Well, then carefully read the starting post.
3) Mlyn, she is in my lap. And I know perfectly well that it pulls and what does not. As for why FHD - then not to see a daub, secondly, Battle 3 on the middle you will hardly go on it (I have the least amount of smoothing in FHD - and that podlagivaet ...)

Do you have an i3 / i5 / i7 processor of the 3rd generation on your laptop? Ivy bridge?
4) Yeah, of course, there are turbo coolers, so I really believed. For half an hour the game is enough, and then you will find a blue screen of death. I repeat once again - with the same vidyukha I have quite a strong heat.

I believe what I see. And I see the number 70 in Everest as the maximum temperature value of the CPU. Yes, you go to the topicAcer Iconia W700, there were test results of heating the tablet. If nothing was removed there during my absence, these results should still be there.
5) IE 10 is something. In speed, it is much inferior to the same chrome, in terms of functionality, it is also not up to par.

For speed - never. For convenience - the taste and color of all the markers are different (:
Well, do not replace the laptop tablet, well, no way. Well, it is not convenient to work on the sensor!

Mouse and keyboard likepurely situational addition No one canceled the tablet.
Capturing the flaws of both.

As well as the benefits. Well now, do not use anything - be afraid of shortcomings? (:

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So that the information in the starting post was more convenient to use, I transfer part of the reasoning regarding the advantages over other operating systems from the starting one to a separate post:
Why a tablet on Windows 8, and not an android?
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1. Stability and usability of the operating system. How Google would not try on their OS, version 4.2 even has enough flaws. But nothing of the older versions, and say nothing. Be proud that your Galaxy Note 10.1 Jelly Bean on virtually no "slow"? And for windows 8 phenomenon "slowdown" does not exist by definition! Rejoice smooth interface? For Windows 8 norm is not only smooth, but also stylish animation! Happy that there is finally a multiple windows in the form of 2-windows? 2 windows, pfff ... In Windows 8, you can open them as long as necessary - and it is convenient! Tychite nose yablokofagov his "real multitasking system," but at the same time sad that every open and not closed in time to the application with a tremendous eats battery? In windows 8 multitasking is implemented exactly as it should - you see how much you have applications open at the moment, you can between them to switch quickly, and you can be sure that the tablet is discharged to a couple of hours due to the fact that you something they forgot to close!
2. A variety of software. How many apps are there now on Google Play? 700 thousand? And now at least imagine how many Windows applications have been written in the entire history of this OS? That's the same thing. And each of them can be run on your tablet! True, only if it is not RT. But I’ll say separately why it’s not worth buying RT.
3. The ability to connect any peripherals via USB. Generally any. For each device there is a driver.
4. The absence of any depending on the manufacturer. Disappointed that Samsung has scored update your valuable Galaxy Tab 2, which is less than a year ago was the top-end? Going to buy some new tablet for a decent amount - just in order to a year and a half, it has turned into an obsolete stuff? Are you really want it? If not, Windows - Again, your choice. After all, you can always put on your plate is a new OS when it comes out - and it's no more difficult than to put 8ku your current laptop / hospital.
5. Tired before leaving the house to think, what to take with you - an Android tablet or a netbook / laptop / ultrabook? After all, you don’t work on the tablet, but with a laptop you don’t read books / don’t watch movies / don’t play / on the long road, for it’s inconvenient. So why puzzle? Take Windows tablet, which will replace you at once these two devices - and it will be convenient to use them in both cases!


Why a Windows tablet, not an iPad?
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1. Do you still not sick of what Uncle Stevie (even being departed to the other world) decides for you what you can do, and what not? Why do not jailbreak, you can not use the usb-devices via an adapter, send files via bluetooth'u, customize the appearance of the interface, install third-party applications? Jail to do the same - to deny the fact that a key advantage of iOS - the stability of the system. So why do you need it? Is not it easier to switch to Windows, where you will be available the full potential of your device, and not the 10% that you kindly gave the apple company?
2. You understand that your device - 90% content consumption device. But work on it, too, would be desirable. But as? The mouse and keyboard to connect - a problem (need special BT compatible devices iPad'om - they are expensive and not easy to choose exactly that easy for myself), the respective programs do not (say, there And you try to edit a photo in any? application on the iPad as in photoshop'e under the windows. Or, create a presentation, the quality is not inferior to that made in MS Power point). The tablet is not working? Yes, with what you have? Uncle Steve said? Og, and what it :) But on the tablet can not work worse than on a laptop. If not enough of the touch screen, mouse and keyboard to help. And it's more convenient than wearing just two devices - a tablet and a laptop.
3. And yes, you for years of use of iOS did not bother the monotonous interface? Well, admit it, most of you are already standing across the throat. And I would like to change, yes it is impossible - I don’t want to do jail at all. Yes, and go to the android, because after iOS it is a solid lagodrome.
So do not! Switch to Windows, which boasts all the benefits of iOS, but it also has a lot of its own :)
4. All that was said in the section about android.


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As well as the benefits.

With advantages like something worse. Well, where to i3 / i5 / i7 is the same time of the weight? Where a sensor application for "hiking" conditions? Atom? Well with toys somehow evil. Video - yes, well, we have learned to twist. Content creation without a keyboard physical - fun - below average, with Claudia, albeit detachable - the same ultrabook, netbook, so maybe it's worth to honestly admit that I take a tablet to consume content in 99% of cases, and for its creation have a desktop with a couple of monitors or a decent laptop? We thought so, whether tablet or laptop to take now whether to take the keyboard in thought. Maybe on wines 8 system has become the place occupy the same amount as the Droid or ayos? Like, either. Multiple windows? It is 10 inches. No more than for show. Without applications in a large number ve under the sensor and the screen size of 10 inches, as were the plates xp, Seven niche solution, so it will remain. Well, since fundamentally changed? Hours slightly increased.

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