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Combining numbers on one personal account
    Beeline: Voice mobile communication and SMS (Post Grandecom # 61272093)
    Megaphone: Association is possible for rooms from one region. Consolidation is free, the withdrawal of the number on a separate l / s - 50 p. The application is filed in the office. There are no restrictions on tariff plans.
    MTS: Association is possible for rooms from one region. The application is filed in the office. Restriction on tariff plans: only tariffs of the Smart line (for physicists), without limitation, under one agreement (for legal entities)
Inactive subscriber. L / s reset and number loss
    Beeline: Voice mobile communication and SMS (Post Lordwind # 66135874)
    Megaphone: Voice mobile communication and SMS (Post Lordwind # 66135874)
    Mts
    The condition for inactivity is non-use of paid communication services.
    From 07.08.2017, the line "Daily payment of 3 rubles. With no consumption of chargeable services within 90 days" appeared on the tariffs without subscription fees.Voice mobile communication and sms (Post dvsof # 75221881)
    If the number enters the financial blocking, then no later than the 10th day of the month following the month in which the balance reached the minimum write-off threshold, the Final Block is set on the number and the contract is closed by number.
    Financial blocking - minus in the account or the amount is less than the amount of daily debit.
    I will clarify that, in support of VIP clients, they voiced the period of being in financial blocking for up to 180 days and even longer. But the unequivocal NO about the possibility of closing the contract for the next month, after falling into a financial block, did not sound. So everything is at the discretion of the operator.
    TP "Basic 092013"
    Tele2 Russia
    The condition of non-activity is non-use of paid communication services or non-replenishment of the personal account.
    In the absence of deductions for services / recharge of the personal account, within 120 days, the daily subscription fee begins to be charged. If the balance of the Subscriber’s personal account is found to be equal to or lower than zero within 180 (one hundred and eighty) consecutive calendar days, the contract for the provision of communication services shall be deemed terminated at the initiative of the Subscriber.
    Yota
    The list of actions that are considered "activity":
    1. Any cash flows - payments, debits, adjustments.
    2. Availability of active packages and options.
    3. Incoming voice calls are received by you (for this, a phone with a SIM card must be turned on and registered on the network).
    4. Incoming SMS delivered to you (for this phone with a SIM-card must be enabled and registered on the network).
    5. Outgoing voice calls (except for calls to emergency services such as 112, 01, 02, etc.).
    6. Outgoing SMS delivered to recipients (with the exception of SMS to our support service - SMS chat).

    If none of these actions is performed within 90 days, the subscription fee of 150 rubles per month is included. When the balance is 0, the contract will be terminated, provided that the SIM card is still inactive (exceptions: The number is not purchased for money. The number is not transferred by MNP.)
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Protection against paid subscriptions
    Beeline: The ban on paid subscriptions is connected through the call center operator
    Megaphone
    Cellular communication (Post froster_dandy # 79740010)
    Cellular communication (Post by Lordwind # 70050587)
    * 526 # - activation of the service: Banning of paid content numbers (a service for subscribers of the Ural branch of MegaFon PJSC. Valid only on the territory of the Ural branch)
    Mts
    * 984 # - ban content
    At this time, when connecting to or switching to the TP of the Smart line, the Content prohibition service is automatically connected
    Tele2 Russia
    The content personal account is connected when you personally contact the operator’s office or via the support service in Viber messenger.
    * 160 # - checking the balance of the personal account.
    Refusal of unwanted paid WEB-subscriptions
    * 931 # - connect / check status
    * 931 * 0 # - disable [/ COLOR]
Free spam protection
    Beeline: Antispam protection
    Megaphone: Antispam 1911
    Mts
    Cancellation from SMS mailings from short numbers and alpha-numbering.
    unsubscribe from SMS mailings from DEF-numbers(from standard numbers of mobile subscribers)
    Ban on receiving informational SMS and SMS / MMS from the MTS websiteallows to refuse advertising informational messages of MTS and SMS, MMS from the site, as well as informational texts in service messages (for example, added to balance messages when requesting * 100 #)
    Tele2 Russia
    To activate the service, and later add a number to Anti-Spam, you can send a free SMS to the number 345, in the message text you can specify a number or an alias that needs to be blocked. Federal numbers are indicated in the format 8ХХХХХХХХХХ. Non-federal numbers, such as + 4ХХХХХХХХХХ, + 700ХХХХХХХ, 8800ХХХХХХХ, etc., are indicated without a “+” sign.
    To remove a number or nickname from the list - send an SMS to the number 345 with the text: 0 * [number to unlock]
    To view the list of numbers added to Antispam SMS - send an SMS to the number 345 with the text: 1

Transfer of minutes, sms, traffic to the next month
  • MTS (tariffs Smart (archive), Smart Unlimited (archive), Smart +, Smart Top, Ultra).No carryon Smart TP for their own, Smart mini, as well as on new Smart TP (from 09.2018), My Smart.
  • Tele2 Russia (TP My line, corporate tariffs 2018) and virtual operators on its network (Rostelecom, TTK mobile, Tinkoff Mobile, etc.)
Disable advertising from the SIM menu
Megaphone: service Kaleidoscope, disconnection: * 808 * 0 #
MTS: MTS-Info service, disconnection: * 111 * 1212 * 2 #
Beeline: Chameleon service, shutdown: * 110 * 20 #

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MNP Questions now only discussed in MNP - discussion
In order to avoid confusion - where to discuss what and for better structuring information, separate topics have been created for federal cellular operators in Russia, where you can discuss any operator services, starting, for example, with SMS and ending with the Internet. Here will be discussedonly general questions and choices .
Topics are at the root of the section.Communication, Games, Media . Have a nice chat!


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Post has been editedAndrewP_1 - 08.09.19, 13:08
Reason for editing: re-cap, edited by Rammsteiner



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In Moscow, there will finally be a connection of a new generation from Megaphone

MegaFon is starting to provide 3G services to subscribers in the capital region. By the beginning of October, the company had prepared 500 sites for 3G base stations in Moscow and the Moscow Region and, in the framework of the first phase of the project, began to gradually include urban facilities and areas of the Moscow Region in the network’s service area. The metropolitan MegaFon network is based on the HSDPA platform (“Generation 3.5”), the latest 3G version.

- The Moscow region has strategic importance for the development of 3G technology across Russia. It is here that the highest demand for new services in the country is the largest number of users of the newest devices, the highest density of corporate clients and visitor. Therefore, the megaphone invests in the development of the third generation of the third generation maximum of funds and efforts, "says Igor Parfenov, Deputy General Director of MegaFon OJSC in the capital region, director of the metropolitan branch of the company. - We started to develop 3G in Moscow at the same time as other operators, and at the initial stage of MegaFon leads in the region on the coverage and quality of new services. Our task is to always be one step ahead, deploy the highest quality network 3G, offer subscribers the best prices and comfortable service. The leadership of a megaphone in technologies and service is the key to the leadership in the market.

In the 3G network zone, the MegaFon subscribers can use the Internet services of increased quality according to the same tariffs as in the operating GSM network. Mobile phone owners, "iPhones", modems and other popular 3G devices can go online, making video calls, listen to music and watch video, work with e-mail and corporate networks, in words, have a whole set of modern services and entertainment at hand, Even away from home or office. Take advantage of 3G services can any subscriber of megaphone, switching occurs automatically. At the same time, the data transfer rate in the 3G metropolitan network reaches 7.2 Mbps per second - due to the implementation of advanced HSDPA technology, which benefits the conditions for servicing MegaFon subscribers from proposals from a number of other mobile operators.

- MegaFon deploys 3G in the metropolitan region using an innovative approach. The third-generation equipment received from the suppliers will not be dust in warehouses, and is located on the technological sites literally "from the wheels" and immediately begins to serve subscribers. The well-established logistics and construction scheme allows you to increase the network with a rapid pace, with minimal costs. This option is ideal for the Moscow metropolis and the metropolitan region as a whole, "said Igor Akulinin, the first deputy director of the metropolitan branch of MegaFon OJSC, which is responsible for the implementation of the 3G project in the Moscow region.


Today, in Moscow, 3G services are already available to MegaFon subscribers in the building of Paveletsky Station (Domodedovo Terminal), in the Crocus Expo Exhibition Complex, in the center of International Trade on Red Presnya, at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel, in the Olympic Sport Complex, In the shopping centers "Seating Dvor", "Novinsky", "Warsaw", "Metro" on Ryabinova Street, "Crocus City Mall", "Okhotny Ryad", "Moscow", as well as on other urban facilities, including operator offices. In the Moscow region, the 3G equipment has already been operating in the MEGA Teply Stan shopping centers, "Maxti" (Balashikha), in the village of Dmitrovsky, Leninsky and Solnechnogorsk regions. The first large settlement outside the Moscow Ring Road, covered by 3G, became the city of Pushkino.

In the near future, the territory coverage of the third generation network will expand significantly. Starting from October, every day to the 3G network will connect new objects of Moscow and the areas of the Moscow region. Start to serve subscribers Basic stations installed in near Moscow cities Balashikha, Volokolamsk, Dmitrov, Dubna, Ivanteevka, Wedge, Kolomna, Krasnogorsk, Lyubertsy, Mytishchi, Noginsk, Odintsovo, Orekhovo-Zuyevo, Pavlovsky Posad, Sergiev Posad, Solnechnogorsk, Fryazino, Khimki, Schelkovo and Elektrostal. Until the end of November, high quality mobile Internet will be provided in Sheremetyevo airport buildings, in IKEA shopping centers, League, Mega, Obi, Dreamhouse, Mosmart and others, in many villages and recreation areas Outside the Moscow Ring Road.

In Moscow, in October and November, the base stations 3G in the Auchan shopping complexes, Ramstor, Manezh, Mitinsky Radio, Smolensky Passage, in the buildings of the Kazan Station and the Ice Palace on the Khodynsky field, in the complex " Moscow City, in the hotels "Ararat Park Hayyat", "Mariott Tverskaya", "Grand Mariott", "Novotel", "Metropol" and other places where there is an increased demand for high-speed mobile Internet. In November, MegaFon will also start inclusion of 3G at the Moscow metro stations. After the state allocates mobile operators the necessary radio frequency resource in Moscow to work outdoors, MegaFon intends to start rapidly deploying a 3G network on the streets of the Russian capital.


Link to the news on the MegaFon website



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Caught in the center today: D
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Post has been editedtyphoon13 - 11.04.17, 08:50
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Has anyone tried this way ???
http: //savagemessiahzine.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=107817
Have unsubscribed the experimenters, otherwise they are silent in that topic ...



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Gryn87
In any unlimited, there is always a catch, do not spit.
Be it the Internet, honeycomb. communication or other services.
I have a home Internet without a hitch, everything is like in a contract, but every year it improves. the speed is more for the same money, the only small catch that does not stipulate that there is no external IP address (but this is for more advanced people), nevertheless, torrents are practically not distributed without it

d00mw01f
And he concluded that there is no anlim in Novosibirsk that is cheaper than 1k rubles per month, since MTS has an “on-line” tariff without a monthly fee with the “24-hour online” service, which costs 33rub / day, as well as I-Onlayner with anlim and subscriber 1,5k rubles / month.
Moscow, on kmk I use the online tariff without any extras. services and satisfied with the quality and price (for ICQ, etc. entertainment, for the rest of the house there is a dedicated line)

Kakashi_Hatake
... for anlim there is a dedicated line and a city where Wi-Fi sometimes catches.
but it does not always catch where you need to go and look for an access point, it does not smell like convenience

D1m @ s
and if there is no opportunity to put a dedicated line? So people have to wander through mobile operators
Unfortunately I don’t see any other options for either limiting my needs with slow Internet or paying a lot and using something more modern

Zerelk
We need such a tariff for the Internet in the tunnels of the Moscow metro (except for the biline, unfortunately in the radio tunnel tunnels). And in the subway, I travel a lot (courier)
Yes, there is such that in the Moscow metro, the beeline catches the Internet, unlike other operators, but this is only the Internet and is slower and less stable than mts, despite the fact that in my house this beeline almost never catches))



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Continue;)

The military surrendered to the "big three"

Third generation communication frequencies will be given to cellular operators


To Minister of Defense Anatoly Serdyukovit took five days to complete the assignment of Dmitry MedvedevOn solving the issue with frequencies on the connection of the third generation in Moscow. The military was the main obstacle to the "big triple", two years already preparing to launch a 3G network in the capital. Now they expect to launch new generation services until the end of the year. The network launch in Moscow will allow operators to increase the income from the mobile Internet by 30-40% compared with the current 29 billion rubles. MegaFon prepared in Moscow 500 land base stations with third-generation communication support, they can be launched immediately after receiving permission. Investments "MegaFon" in the development of 3G in Moscow will amount to 1 billion rubles. until the end of 2009. The volume of investments in 3G in Moscow in MTS and VimpelCom do not disclose. In 2008-2009, MTS plans to invest $ 700 million in Russia in Russia. Executive Director of the Infocommunication Union Andrei Svetovumov assessed the cost of translating the equipment of the military to other frequencies of $ 50 million.

Earlier, Igor Shchegolev and the Deputy Head of the Ministry of Communications and Mass Media Naum Marder estimated conversion (modernization of military equipment for transfer to other frequencies) in the amount of about 60 billion rubles. “However, such funds would be required in case of total replacement of equipment. The studies of the General Staff showed that the services of the “big three” are generally compatible with the activities of the military, ”said one source in the telecommunications market.

Officially, the materials from the Ministry of Defense in the Ministry of Communications of Russia have not yet been received. “If they arrive in the near future, they will be considered at a meeting of the SCRP,” says the spokesman for the Ministry of Communications and Mass Media Elena Lashkina.

According to estimates of Json & Partners, in the first half of 2009, revenues from 3G increased by 83%, to 13 billion rubles. According to the company's forecasts, by the end of the year, the growth rate will slow to 43-44%. According to analysts, USB modems and the ability to access the Internet via 3G networks are now the main growth drivers for the segment.


The General Staff issued a positive conclusion in the test of the "big three" cellular coupling of the third generation in Moscow, two sources in the industry were told. "The permission of the General Staff is obtained. We hope that frequencies will be in December, "says the source in one of the cellular operators. Press secretary of VimpelCom Ksenia Korneev also says that the operator has information about the positive conclusion of the General Staff. 3G networks have a "big triple" are ready, and operators are waiting only for the permission of the regulator to launch services into commercial operation, one of the sources added.

The Ministry of Defense was not allowed to launch the third generation networks in Moscow. The official reason is the incompatibility of networks with equipment specials. According to unofficial data, we are talking about ground stations, controlling the illegal defense system "Forecast". On October 21, 2009, at a meeting with representatives of the Russian Union of Industrialists and Entrepreneurs, Dmitry Medvedev complained of not enough rapid pace of work on the allocation of third-generation frequencies in Moscow. He gave instructions to make clearing frequencies by the head of the Ministry of Communications Igor Shchegolev and the Minister of Defense Anatoly Serdyukov.

“Medvedev criticized the Ministry of Defense for the fact that they are slowing down the solution of the issue with 3G in Moscow,” said a source in the telecommunications market. - We have repeatedly witnessed how such criticism led to the fact that certain departments "corrected" in the shortest possible time. "

Json & Partners analysts estimate the volume of the mobile Internet market in 2009 at 29.3 billion rubles. The launch of 3G networks in Moscow can increase revenue growth for this service by 30–40%.

“We have not yet received the conclusion of the General Staff. We are expecting early permission to launch the network, ”said MTS spokeswoman Irina Osadchaya. The adviser to the general director of MegaFon Moscow, Roman Prokolov, is not familiar with the final resolution of the General Staff, but said that "the company had previously stated that it expects to launch 3G in Moscow by December."


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Since the frequencies are cleared, will 3g appear in the near future in the subway tunnels? Nachet beeline as I understand they do not disclose when. But MTS seems to be going to make a connection underground. The ring is covered by the way completely. Only 3G is missing



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Zerelk , MTS on the Ring about a month ago, with might and main tested 3G. Apparently everything was tested and turned off before official permission.



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MVA

And it was all over the branch? That is, there was a test launch at all stations of the ring line and tunnels? I did not notice. I caught 3G from Kursk to Komsomol once. But then there was already an edge. But now recently tested, there now only catches the edge. Apparently testing has already stopped. This is good, so MTS will cover all 3G branches. Somewhere I read that another year and all the branches will be covered by cellular communication. About 3G, the truth was not written, but I think it will.

Post has been editedZerelk - 28.10.09, 19:08



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Zerelk , I have from Belarusian to Paveletskaya (clockwise) at all stations and in the tunnels there was 3G. More precisely, at the stations in most shone letter H , and in the tunnels - 3G .



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Medvedev called disgrace the lack of 3G-communication in Moscow

The Russian leader, Dmitry Medvedev, drew the attention of the members of the Commission on the Modernization of the Russian Economy to the fact that the third generation of cellular communications has not been established in Moscow, calling it a shame.

“Third generation networks do not work everywhere, for example, they are not in Moscow. It is a shame that the third generation of communications does not work in our capital, there are simply no comments, ”Medvedev said at a meeting of the Commission.

The president also asked representatives of cellular companies about the relevance of deploying third-generation communications in the Russian capital, since it may already be necessary to move to a new standard.


October 28, 16:06 Pravda.Ru



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Guys, and I have a question, a little to the side, but on the topic. When switching to next-generation networks, will 3G devices be able to work? (in particular, wonders if the HTC Touch HD can work in 4G networks, only at a lower speed)



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Soul :) @ 10.29.09, 11:54*
Will HTC Touch HD work in 4G networks?

Not.



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hirodger
I know that nts3300 does not support 3G, but I wrote that I made a call to the NORMAL phone.

By the way, is there such a service for our opsocks as a test video call to an operator?



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Prologue;
I use billion about 5 years, and the same tariff;) bi + boom (1st min. 0.22 $, 2nd $ 017, all the others starting with 3rd 0.05 $, on all phones, including MGTS) dollar. When $ 1 cost in the area of ​​20 rubles, it was wonderful, in principle, and now tolerant. Just purely psychologically, it seems to be an old tariff, and some time ago, I decided to change it, but unsuccessfully. For about 1.5 years, I have been studying the books of "new products", but the price has stabilized, and all these new tariffs (which to the word to say and appear much less often) - pure marketing and populism. And so I saw advertising -Beeline: 2010 !!!
Here came an intelligent little article about him, I decided to share with the people: thank_you:
Not a fountain, but alreadysomething.
Full description of the tariff lookhere, it is better to look at a cup of tea and without going anywhere, some notes in small print there are more than 9 thousand signs. In terms of the old GOST - exactly six and a half standard typewritten pages. So it will be something to entertain themselves in a rainy autumn evening.

Unified price of local challenges in all directions, including calls to city phones, base cost minutes - 3,25 rubles. Tariff without subscription fee. Quite without a subscription fee, even without a hidden subscriber in the form of a board for options / modifiers. Unusual. "Fishka" of the tariff proposal - the provision of bonus minutes for the renewed time and bonus SMS for sent messages. For every 20 paid minutes they give 10 minutes in the form of a bonus and for each sent and paid 20 SMS messages provide 10 SMS in the form of a gift. This is a scheme in general terms. Interesting? Very interesting and non-standard. Lowned in the tariff "Small tricks" and the limiters will discuss below, these are the same six pages of clarifying notes.
Place in the market

Tariff 2010 is an amusing marketing “push-pull”, which they tried to make externally as attractive as possible for the subscriber, at the same time without offending the financial operator. After clearing the numbers from the advertising bonus peel, it can be argued that theoretically the tariff can suit two categories of subscribers:

* Few people speak and call infrequently, but in all directions.
* Callers in all directions with “even” voice traffic of less than 200 minutes / month.

In general terms, something like this, an attempt to stretch the tariff to a wider market niche will lead to waste of money. Well, you can still consider the tariff as an targeted offer for those who are experiencing a sharp antipathy to any types and forms of subscription, such people are also quite a few.
Lyrics

I visited Soap about the phenomenon "Chet-Net" in the tariff development of Beeline. Not in the sense of a free even minute, although these experiments were too enough, but in the sense of "successful-unsuccessful". Like alternation of bright and dark stripes on the logo. Founded at the end of September "For anyone" turned out to be very good and was successful, as I would gladly write in a review. So insensity (to put it milder) Tarif 2010 is not surprising, waiting for the following sentence with curiosity. But the experiment deserves respect for the non-standard approach.

Now we are talking about tariffs for little and secondary talking, suggestions for "Boltunov" are formed in their laws. What is a "successful tariff" from the point of view of the user? For the overwhelming majority - simple and clear numbers, the absence of any tricks and problems on the topic "Here - Call, there are not calling there, and this is calling only on working days at lunchtime." At the same time, the price of a minute is important, but for very many more importantly, its advertising display: it is clear that 15 kopecks per minute better than 50, and 5 kopecks are very good. We also dislike the subscription "Over the air", it is a relic of past and violence against the consumer. Developers have to be lavailed between these mutually exclusive poles, building the tariff structures of varying degrees of complexity. The easiest way is "transparent" price minutes without any focus, this option attracts many users. But honest, "transparent" price of a minute cannot be low, and the tariff looks bad against the background of other offers with kopecks in advertising. Nevertheless, the "transparent" scheme is in demand, and successful examples are: popular "O'Hhard" (MegaFon) and "Red Energy" (MTS).

“Complex” paths with kopecks and zeros in advertising were invented a lot. The most popular and accustomed varieties are tariffs with free even minutes, cheap calls to a strictly defined direction (within the tariff, less often within the network) and cheap or pseudo-free minutes within the individual conversation.

Separate positions - tariffs with a daily battery and tariffs with a slightly disguised subscriber in the form of a daily fee for a downstream option. Good for the operator and actually guarantee a certain level of income, but little and middle talking is alarming. In the battery tariffs stops the price of the first expensive minutes, the tariffs with paid options annoys the subscriber "Over the air". Today's "patient" - an attempt to go on the other hand by using bonus minutes and SMS. Remove psychological barriers, ensure advertising attractiveness and at the same time stimulate the user to spend more.
Anatomy

So, it seems that in 20 minutes of paid local calls we get 10 bonus minutes. 20 minutes at 3.25 rub. / Min. plus 10 bonus minutes give, as they immediately found on the forums, the price of a minute is 2.17 rubles per minute. Not bad, especially considering that we are talking about all local calls, including calls to MGTS phones. In fact, this is not quite the case. We analyze the points.

* In essence, we are offered a rechargeable tariff with a battery stretched for a week and a step in 30 minutes. Speak 20 minutes - the meter clicked, and begin to use 10 bonus minutes, it ended 30 minutes - the new cycle of 20 + 10 begins. And so until the end of the week. On the night of Sunday, on Monday, counters are reset, and everything begins "with a clean sheet." Accordingly, if we are talking about normal communication, then get it and jewelry to use all bonus minutes, while not getting into the next cycle, you can only theoretically. And if you are not very lucky and specifically not to wind paid conversations, then instead of 20:10 you can get 19: 0 or 39:10.
* Call charges are rounded up to a minute, but the “clean” seconds of paid calls are taken into account. Those. in reality, we get 600 bonus seconds for 1200 seconds of paid conversations, while the number of paid minutes can vary within fairly wide limits. For example, one conversation 20 minutes long for 65 rubles. and 120 calls for 10 seconds for 390 rubles. will give us the same 10 bonus minutes.
* On the other hand, bonus minutes are spent per second, and in ten bonus minutes, much more than ten short conversations can fit. So there’s no need to talk about “one-sided play”, everything is fair. But the fare profile is changing, more on that below.
* The transition from the "clean" pack (from the beginning of the conversation) to the "clean" consumption means an increase in expenses on average by 25-30%, why not use these figures to evaluate? We will proceed from conservative 25%. Lowing to a general commemorative denominator, we obtain a weighted average formula 25: 12.5 instead of 20:10. Those. In perfect for us an unlikely case, we will get 37.5 minutes a week, paying for them 81.25 rubles. In the case of two ideal cycles, the figures are multiplied by two, but this is the zone of other tariffs, it makes no sense to discuss. Total, given to the minute, the monthly "ideal", taking into account the bonuses, will be 325 rubles. in 150 minutes. We will remember these numbers, they will use us.
* Scheme 20:10 is valid for sent SMS, for 20 paid messages we get 10 bonus. But here the battery is not weekly, but monthly. Since it is difficult to implement letter-by-bit filling of the SMS battery, the cost of SMS was increased by 25 kopecks. In an ideal case for us, sending exactly 30 SMS per month, the average price of one message will be 1.47 rubles, while sending 22 or less messages per month, the savings will come with a minus sign.

In the dry residue - 2.17 rubles. per minute and 1.47 rubles. for SMS as an unattainable ideal with total expenses of 370 rubles per month. If you do not talk with a stopwatch in your hands and do not specifically “adjust the indicators” (for what?), Then the real average price per minute will be noticeably higher, somewhere in the gate 2.5-2.7 rubles. We will draw conclusions after comparison, but for now a little intrigue in the description, quote:

“Accumulation of paid and spending bonus minutes is carried out in seconds from Monday during the calendar week (to Sunday inclusive), the next week the minutes are not transferred. Within one week, you can receive no more than 200 bonus minutes. ”

Can anyone explain why at such prices it was to invent a limit of 200 minutes? Beeline insures that subscribers will talk too much at a fantastic discount price of 2.5 rubles. per minute local call? Mercy, this is not even funny. Either pure marketing (once limited, it means sweet halvah!), Or the price parameters were at some stage strongly revised, and a note remained.
We learn in comparison

We will not touch the most successful samples of competitors, for most profiles, the comparison will not be in favor of 2010. Let's "follow" received numbers to the Beeline tariff "Your Rules". With connected two options (120 rubles. Conspiles per month), 40% of calls within the network, 60% of calls to other mobile and those "ideal" for TP "2010" 150-and minutes per month. Voice spending in TP "Your Rules В»Capture 312 rubles. At the tariff 2010 - 325 rubles. With 10% of calls to MGTS and 40% of calls within the network, the cost of TP "Your Rules" will be 349 rubles per month. And this is compared, with all the forces "attracted by the ears" in favor of the new tariff 2010. In real exploitation of tariffs, expenses will coincide with minutes to 130-140, and as the number of minutes, the price gap in favor of TP "Your Rules" will begin to increase rapidly . And with a decrease in the number of across the minutes, the meaning of the bonuses disappears, since we will not have time to get to the stages of their spending. If we all have time to get them.
Summary

By no means consider the new tariff with useless marketing delight. He is not useless for us, it is harmful (almost a joke). Present 2010 - at the bottom of the line. Tariff with its 3.25 rubles. For a minute of any local call and the lack of a subscription looks like a neutral-good universal solution for little speaking. As additional delicacy - the ability to save with very episodic splashes of telephone activity. Yes, it is still useful to those who have often to call the city phones. It's all. No need to succumb to hypnosis of advertising and want something more from 2010, we will leave the decoration for the New Year tree. The irony of fate and the cunning of the tariff consist in the fact that for most "running" user profiles, these tempting bonuses are a Trojan horse. People will reach out for shiny balls, will be for them to talk more and rejoice at the gift, how else? Despite the fact that the very fact of regular bonus receiving will be an indicator of irrational waste of money.




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hirodger

Well, it's technically impossible. How will video calls be received? Through the edge? The speed of the ejah is simply not enough to accept it, even if it is done by some shamanistic method. If you want to test this video call, you will have to take 2 phones with 3g. You go to zone 3g and call the 2nd phone. For someone to call while there is a problem with a video call, since the coverage of 3g is very small and the probability that the interlocutor will be in the zone of 3g is very small.



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The official map of the 3G-coverage of the Moscow region from Megaphone.



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And who knows how BIBline is doing?



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Indy05

About Beeline. Yesterday I caught it in the Metro when I switched from Chekhovskaya to Tverskaya. Was the same in the tunnel, and then disappeared. The speed was the same as the edge. Apparently they tested something.


And here's the question: Can they transmit antennas that hang in the 3G subway? Or does this need another antenna?

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Zerilok,
Metro is a metro .. I now ask to what I read that by the new year I should fully work like 2g now .. and as soon as the president intervenes, problems that could not be solved for years, suddenly, in 2 days, I decide .. I am interested in what plans for operators in general until the new year in this regard ...



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And here's the question: Can they transmit antennas that hang in the 3G subway? Or does this need another antenna?



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