Post has been editedDjeclol - 01.07.20, 15:30

Please draw your attention to the deception of people Beeline with the tariff "Apple Fresh". Description of this fare -here

The bottom line is that first (with the appearance of this tariff) Beeline made a tariff with "unlimited gprs internet", but with one caveat - for Beeline the word "unlimited" means unlimited downloading of Internet content in the amount of 500mb for 30 days from the moment of payment of subscription fee , and then "pay at the rate as if the volume of megabytes overclocked to the monthly fee".

Then this reservation disappeared from the Beeline site, i.e. has become a fully unlimited internet.

But at the end of December, Beeline again "came up with a brilliant idea" - they made a new toughening, which can be seen on their website (the link was given above). Excuse the following type:

This condition has to be searched throughout the site. Here it iscondition. Look carefully, it is written at the bottom in small print.
From this condition we see that:


After that, the essence and whole meaning of Iphone 3G (meaning 3G and EDGE networks) disappears after 500mb of downloaded traffic - the speed of the Internet is specially reduced by the operator.

I connected to this tariff in the first days of December, and could not know about this restriction, it did not even dream me in a dream. However, Beeline argues that in the pricing there was initially information that the Internet is provided for the company. But, as you can see, this is essentially not a condition, but a very real limitation.

ThenhereWe look information about EGDE on the site of Beeline. It is clearly and clearly written:


In fact, the Internet speed provided by Beeline (until the limit of 500mb has been exhausted) is 0-8 kbyte / s (tested with the Nokia N80, which has GPRS, EDGE, 3G support).

Those. as a result, we get advertising that we can use the Internet at the speed of third-generation networks, but in reality - the usual gprs, and cut down after 500 MB "to 20 Kbit / s", and 20 Kbit / s - this is 2.5 KB / sec, i.e., as you see, there is not even a full-fledged gprs, let alone edge, 3G.

Onthe forumBeeline is already having this discussion between subscribers of Beeline ... The administration still sometimes peeks there, but doesn’t say anything worthwhile in the matter.
I live in St. Petersburg, here EDGE should definitely be judged by the coverage area of ​​the Beeline network.

I and other subscribers of Beeline wrote a letter to the site mobile-review.com about this incident. After a couple of weeks appearedarticleabout these and other tricks of the operators.

Be careful in choosing fares!
Thanks for attention.

Post has been editedtyphoon13 - 26.04.17, 16:38

In any unlimited, there is always a catch, do not spit.
Be it the Internet, honeycomb. communication or other services.

The seller always redeem their costs and make a profit - the law of economics
But how to get to buy a tariff ... another question.
Show a readable, transparent contract for any kind of fare?
Where there are no reservations, in clear language, without deception.


Post has been editedJohnny P - 10.03.09, 20:07

Posted on 05/03/2009, 21:42:

You can cheapen only one way - saving traffic.

Everything else, with the probability of "more" - a divorce or ignorance of technology.
And there is also a "late account", but it still comes :)

IMHO topic from the very beginning conceived incorrectly. Looking for unlimited tariffs for opsox? Looking for the most bug-free operators? Looking for the most expensive Internet? It should be determined.
You do not take into account the tariff nuances for different regions.
In the Vologda region NL (only night), there is only Bay. But the quality and speed is such that it is impossible to Use. 3G Bay we have not done. Who is the most appropriate tariff for the Internet at MegaFon. 1MB - 1 ruble. No monthly fees. The tariff comes with a usb modem. You can go to him with any tariff. The cost of switching to 300 rubles. (MegaFon has 3G) Delays in withdrawing funds from the account have a megaphone. Bay takes in real time. About MTS we don `t know. IMHO is not very common in our country. And once again I remind - all this is true of the Vologda region. I am sure that in other regions the situation is different.

Judging by my practice (I will make a reservation right away - I do not live in Russia). We have 2 operators support 3.5G (up to 7.2Mb / download and 1 ~ 2Mb / Upload).
Our operators, as if they did not even raise prices (left unchanged), and even 1) introduced packages with a large amount of traffic enabled, 2) then slightly reduced the rates per Mb,
BUT: based on the fact that the speed of 3G is higher, the user downloads / scans more pages per time unit - accordingly, all traffic grows and, as a result, the fee for using data / internet services rises.
So be vigilant and carefully approach the proposals of operators like: "3G is the connection of the new generation, according to old rates!" ;)
Well, new services, only a video call, everything else can almost be used on GPRS / EDGE. IMHO




Why not grown up, devouring the battery directly depends on the 3G coverage of the operator. If the coverage is good - with normal use of the phone, the difference in battery life is 10%, or even the same as usual. For example, I have an automatic mode for selecting the frequency and type of GSM / WCDMA on Diamond, the device lives 1 day or a little more (I still charge it every evening).
Yes, if you surf the Internet and surf the world wide web, so to speak, continuously, then maybe it will be 4 hours of work from 3G. But when using GPRS / EDGE for this, the battery will also run out in the same 4 hours, but you will download / view less.

e202 , What's the problem? Now, any PPSOS has various tariff plans oriented to large traffic, package options, with a certain amount of traffic, etc.
You should not compare the prices for broadband access by wire with the prices for broadband wireless access, and even over a fairly large area.

That's right! Here are the links, readhttp://volgograd.megafonvolga.ru/contracts/options/345/
http://volgograd.megafonvolga.ru/contracts/options/437/

We have this situation with an Internet:
Altaisvyaz: anlim night from 21.00 to 9.00 - 70r \ day, speed 22-30kb \ s ie for 12 hours it goes from 700mb to 1GB of traffic, 4.8p \ mb is usual around the clock - the speed is not lower than 22kb / s.
MTS: 8.95r \ mb daytime 4.8r \ mb night, I have Maxi, so I have for 630r \ month 100mb of traffic \ 100sms \ 345min anybody \ MTS free. and free roaming, the speed of the day is alles 1-4kb \ s (!), but at night up to 24-28kb \ s. Night Internet from 0.00 to 8.00 - 275 r \ month speeds are similar, but usually up to 3.00 no speed - 3kb / s, then under 30kb / s.
Beeline: Unlimited Internet 1900r \ month (I have not seen the idiots paying for it), the speed is not a fountain - 7-8kb \ s, the usual Internet 6.95r \ mb around the clock.
I don’t know about other operas - I didn’t.

a similar situation, but where "not at home and not at school" is often not present, so the gprs modem is good ...
on the one hand, it’s convenient that there are cell operators almost everywhere. connections, and it is also an Internet connection, but on the other hand a very low speed limiting possibilities and a rather high price (7p mb at mts on-line \ at night 4p, beeline about 5p megabytes, this is in Moscow and seemingly in the region too)

Linkto MTS website

That's actually the subject) Talk)

I dug up the topic, I want to unsubscribe.
situation:
Sakhalin
city ​​- Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk
operator - Beeline
Tariff - Apple Fresh
package - Fresh 100
subscription fee - 900 rubles. The tariff was purchased without an iPhone, then there is no discount for a subscription.

bought, threw 1000 rubles on the balance, connected a package of fresh 100, maybe the cheapest one offered to choose from.
and so, coming home, connected to an Internet and began to use. The speed was good, when downloading files it reached 30-40 KB / s. very pleased with it (by Sakhalin standards this is normal speed)
It takes 2 days, the speed drops sharply, now 7 kB / s is the limit that is almost never attainable. in anger I go to understand, they explain to me that this is how it should be. I am stunned slowly, for nowhere has this been written. okay, figs with him. I still carry my phone with me, I manage to download something during the day.

but the fact itself is very unpleasantly struck ...
at least more than 900 rubles do not charge, it is already good. Yes, and 100 minutes and SMS is also useful. And yes, I can not say anything about the quality of voice communication. everything is on the level :-)

We need such a tariff for the Internet in the tunnels of the Moscow metro (except for the biline, unfortunately in the radio tunnel tunnels). And in the subway, I travel a lot (courier)
I want to buy a sim card with this tariff, but I do not know which one is better to take. There is a tariff for 1000 rubles and 1500r. No longer pull on the money, as it is expensive. So I would take it a long time ago, but they are obviously cunning something there. Here ishttp://www.iphones.ru/iNotes/9440It says that the traffic limit is 500mb, and then the robbery begins.
For 1500 already like 2GB, but this is purely rumored, I found out. I will use on a regular phone or modem. However, on their website it is not written and it is by the way illegal, if so. So it is necessary to write specifically. This is unlimited or a packet of traffic for 500, 2000mb, etc.

Post has been editedZerelk - 09.08.09, 18:05

I am a former winner of this tariff, sat on it since its emergence and the previous month, due to left to get and the appearance of a normal internet ... This tariff plan can involve anyone, not even the owner of the iPhone ... Download Mona 500 meters, and then bummer trim speed up to 11kbit \ s (ie pumps at a rate of 2 KB \ s) but check once every three days, so we have to Stava was, that is, how much have time to deflate within three days all yours, for example, I managed to, and 30GB and 20GB (it's on the order of rate of 2 megabits (245kb \ s))! Even if the benefit was cut to the 3g you can sit on edzhe as trim only 3g ... We rate cost 700 rubles for most deshovy you I realized how expensive, can and all the other ... Just poserfit tariff approach, rock hard ... 500 meters for the average person it seems to me very little !!!

Our robbery did not start the current speed was cut, and the traffic remained unlimited ...

The current that you looked around Moscow is also unlimited, but probably also they are cutting back speed ....

Post has been edited= MiKE = - 09.08.09, 18:59

One more question. Edge they cut speed or not? There is no 3D in Moscow. There is only GPRS / EDGE. Speed ​​approximately on average on a modern 7kb / s phone

Approximately if very active surfing can burn 3-4 mega in 10 minutes.

This speed is already slow. It is still under ideal conditions and the minimum load BS
Is it still cut to 2 kb when the threshold of 500 meters is exceeded? Or is this just 3G concerned?
And will this tariff work in the Tula region?

Post has been editedZerelk - 11.08.09, 21:37

I don’t know about Moscow, we didn’t cut the eje (maybe forgot), but 3G is always on time ... In the Tula region it should be like that, but I won’t say for sure if it will be roaming and you will have to pay for calls to be unlimited, it was in the neighboring region, and so it was ... But for sure I will not say for sure in this area = (

that's the same thing happening on Sakhalin, 500 meters downloaded and that's it, the speed dropped. but about it

I did not even suspect. I will try to check how September begins, maybe we will have a ride :-)

The people you're talking about? I use rate since August 2008. The tariff as being unlimited and stayed. There are no restrictions on the speed after 500 mb traffic. The speed jumps are constantly visible because of network utilization and limitations of various servers. And besides mobile telephony is very tightly connected to wired networks, and the Internet only through them and go on the mobile Internet is a double load of the network as a wireless network and wired. Anyway factors very much affected. But I'm very pleased with the rate of work at least it everywhere with me, and do not have to run around to look for Internet cafes and business services. centers to access the Internet. To exit pol'zuyu glfiish X500 + + UCWEB 6. When downloading files, speed jumps from 10 to 25 kb \ s, and it is normal for cellular networks. Regions use the Murmansk and Belgorod regions.

MTS, Onliner + round-the-clock online. 33 rubles a day, the limit is no more than 3072 MB for three days in a row, that is, gig for a day. No one has yet poured.

Military agree

Third-generation (3G) mobile communications can operate not only in buildings and subways, but also on the streets of Moscow, albeit with restrictions, as shown by the tests of the Ministry of Defense and operators. The Big Three are preparing to launch 3G networks by the end of the year.

MTS completed the third stage of field tests on the compatibility of 3G equipment with military facilities at 2.1 GHz, its vice-president for technology, Andrey Ushatsky, told Vedomosti. MTS will receive a permit for commercial operation of 3G stations, he is sure, the question is, with what power limit will they work. Tests completed and "VimpelCom" with "Megaphone", told their representatives. This was confirmed by a source in the Ministry of Defense.

A feature of 3G networks is a high data transfer rate: in GSM networks (related to the second generation), the limit is 171.2 kbit / s, and in 3G - 2 Mbps (in a stationary position). At the end of the first half of the year, according to MForum estimates, 10.8% of Russian cellular subscribers used 3G-enabled phones. In third-generation networks, Internet traffic consumption is 2.5 times greater, MTS manager notes (the average consumption in Q2 was 100 MB per month, the bill was $ 11 per subscriber).

According to test results of "VimpelCom" adjusted frequency-territorial plan, 3G network deployment and sent it to the Ministry of Defense and the General Radio Frequency Center (GRCHTS), said the spokeswoman Kseniya Korneev company. Obtaining the opinion of the Ministry of Defense and the decision of the FSB and the Federal Security Service, GRCHTS should prepare a response on the basis of which the operators will be able to apply for permits for frequencies Roskomnadzor. Ushatsky expects that 3G will work on the streets of Moscow in early 2010, "VimpelCom", according Korneeva, it expects to launch the network in the streets at the end of 2009 - beginning of 2010. All of the "Big Three" starting conditions for the 3G launch in Moscow about same, the director of the information department of the Moscow branch of В«MegaFonВ» Roman punctures.

MTS has already established in Moscow, about 380 3G base stations, which are not yet commercially launched, "VimpelCom" - 170 say their managers. In addition, MTS launched a 3G-network in several Moscow buildings (building permit issued in the spring) and "University" metro station. By the end of the year the number of premises covered by 3G, will increase to 40, and the number of metro stations - up to four at the Sokolniki line and all stations of the Ring, says Ushatsky. 3G-network of "VimpelCom" is still valid only in his office on Krasnoproletarskaya street and the mall in Khimki. When will the final decision of the frequencies in the streets, "VimpelCom" determined coated in buildings, says Korneev. A network of "Megaphone" will appear in the IV quarter in the coming weeks will be completed preparatory work, punctures said. The operator will start with "a large number of stations" and then actively develop the network. The source estimated in one of the companies "Big Three", for a real need to start at least 500 towers.

News from03.09.2009

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