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To help you, follow these guidelines:
  1. Describe in detail the fault
  2. What started the problem (replacement of components, drops in the network, etc.)
  3. What they did on their own to solve the problem
  4. Fully and fully describe the configuration of the computer (see spoiler below):
    What to report:
    • Motherboard model, revision, BIOS version
    • Model power supply or photo stickers from him, his age
    • Processor model
    • The model of RAM, if there are several strips - the model of each
    • Video card model, or link to it
    • Hard drive model \ s SSD
    • Presence / absence of overclocking of components
    • Operating system version

    It is also useful to specify:
    • Hard disk SMART status (how to make)
    • Component temperatures under load
    • If the computer beeps, tell exactly which ones

    The program to collect information about the system and "iron"
    How to gather information
    Power Supply Information still need to get the method of parsing the PC. Programs do not know how to determine the model of the power supply.

  5. If a BSOD (Blue Screen) appears, you need to dump the memory.
    What is it and where to get it:
    • The file with the extension * .DMP, lies in the folderC: \ Windows \ Minidump
    • If there are many files in a folder, then put some of the most recent
    • If there is no file, then check whether dumping is enabled in the system.
      1. Open the folder "This computer" or "My computer"and in the context menu select"Properties". A window will open."System"
      2. On the left side of the window "System" click on the link "Additional system parameters".
      3. In the window "System properties"tab"Additionally" in section "Boot and Restore"click on"Options".
      4. In the window "Boot and Restore"in block"Write debug information"select from the dropdown list"Small memory dump". (Step by step in pictures)
    • If the system does not boot, use any Live CD \ USB system, for exampleUbuntu, in order to pull the file out of the desired folder.
      PS: If the computer starts up and works stably with the Live CD \ USB system - this most often means that the problem is software, not hardware (with hardware)


  6. If the problem began after the assembly, disassembly or cleaning the computer, make high-quality photos innards PC from different angles and from the back panel connectors. This is necessary in order to detect errors in the assembly and connections, and suggest how to fix them
  7. If the problem is solved, thank the assistant, vote in the header.

Primary PC Failure Analysis
1. You have assembled a new PC, turned it on, but it does not show signs of life
  • Check whether the power supply is on
  • Check if the power is connected to the board (24 pin), processor (4 or 8 pin), video card (6 pin, 8 pin or a combination of them)
  • Check whether the power button is connected to the motherboard

2. You have assembled a new PC, turn it on, it turns on but shows nothing but a black screen, or, it turns on and off cyclically, the fans are twitching
  • Verify overall assembly accuracy and assembly compatibility
  • If the cabinet does not imply stamped seats under the motherboard (such), Then do not forget to check whether the screw under the motherboard racks on which it is screwed, there are no extra -like these ones
  • Check the correct connection of the monitor (in the presence of a discrete video card, the monitor should connect to it, and not to the motherboard).An important point regarding the monitor
  • Check if the power supply cable of the processor is not confused with the video card's wire, since they are very similar in appearance.Connectors on the power supply
  • Check if the memory is firmly inserted.
  • Listen to what the bios speaker beeps. If nothing beeps, check without memory (a working motherboard with a working processor should be squeezed when properly connected to the power supply. Accordingly, the bios speaker must be connected to the board in accordance with the manual)

3. If everything at first glance is correct
  • You need to completely disassemble the PC and assemble it without a case on the table — to eliminate the short circuit to the case
  • Check for mechanical damage, especially near the mounting holes on the boards, near the connectors, memory slots. If the PC is assembled from the CU components - check the motherboard and power supply for the presence ofswollen capacitors
  • Check in the minimum configuration (only the processor, one memory bar and a video card, if there is no embedded video)
  • If the Intel processor - remove the processor and carefully inspect the processor socket on the board - whether there is a damaged leg (bent or broken)
  • If the AMD processor - check whether there are no broken or bent legs on the processor itself
  • Make sure the purchased hardware is compatible: see which BIOS version your board supports the installed processor, is the memory compatible, is the power supply healthy, is there enough power, is it good quality

If none of the above steps helped, you can continue the discussion in the topic by running other requirements
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Post has been editedWSonic - Yesterday, 23:46



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* aleksei123321 , Look at the CPU and yn diode. The program hwinfo shows the same

Posted on 07/04/2020, 19:36:

* aleksei123321 ,
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Posted on 07/04/2020, 19:37:

* aleksei123321 , * aleksei123321 Such temperature only when running the browser.



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* Nokia79002 1 and most importantly, the image should be put under the command of spoiler
[SPOILER] image itself [/ SPOILER]

that thermal grease? film cooling removed during installation? skinte screenshots Aida64 with overclocking tab when nothing is open (no-load) and when there is a light load



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thermal grease in the morning changed .Plenka removed or rather it was not with it all right
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Posted on 07/04/2020, 19:58:

I apologize for the second screen I have a 2 monitor is not advertising, etc.

Posted on 07/04/2020, 19:59:

in the BIOS temperature 38-40 degrees I understand that this is not an indicator but may still not be the same Windows to the point loading per cent taking into account that I have all the cuts in Windows



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* Nokia79002 If you refrigerant unit in the system unit is not conducted, and why not?), We are now outside the window heat, a mere 40 grams, too, when it becomes cooler, 35-37 gr.

Post has been editedOldrampant - Yesterday, 20:04



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Another old bastard @ 04/07/20, 17:26*
RTC for optics adslovskie uses. formally - modem, but the same router.

Of the typical representatives. d-link 2540 just adsl-modem, model 2640 with wi-fi.



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* Oldrampant In this case and with the same power supply, I had the system on xeon 1230v2 everything was ok above 45 in the load is not any problem browser and Forza 4 all ok worked and then the same run hard lags and the fact that the whole system is more powerful than 2 times I was sorry I did agreyd I'll tell you more i53570 and he was cheerful

Posted on 07/04/2020, 20:08:

* Oldrampant , And here I am writing one refrigerant unit you totally different. Jokes leave for his friends. Can not run Windows can not raise proca temperature by as much as 30 degrees



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WSonic @ 4.07.20, 23:04*
But the version of the very old. You will most likely need to upgrade to the latest
what?! It's a ten, it is not important where Speck cards are indicated builds ?!) funny, is not the right word))



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Nokia79002 @ 05.07.20, 02:57*
in temperature 38-40 biose
BIOS is usually higher in temperature. that is, to cool it turns out that all the rules you have.



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* Oldrampant , * Oldrampant , * aleksei123321 , High-speed rail? Here I launched Windows PC came out in readiness I immediately 70 degrees temperature that you do write to me one more other refrigerant unit that how can a mere percent of Windows show 70 degrees? As it so Windows can download



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Well, you looked at all how and what zagrkzhen percent? the idea konesch loading Venda so heat should not. but you've got there Th cost? percent in avtorazgone? tension in the car?

Post has been editedaleksei123321 - Yesterday, 20:20



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* aleksei123321 , Duck the fact that no problems despetchere than a maximum of 10 12 percent download and all. Why I say that is stupid is not something to load and the rate jumps from 66 and above 73 72 74 75 .Not that is not running



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FIG knows kakieto wonders.



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OldRampant @ 04.07.20, 20:08*
funny, not a word))

Well laugh, I'm not forbid. But for 1660 need windose 1809 and above



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Nokia79002 @ 4.07.20, 23:06*
I run hard lags
then most likely the case in the memory, and high temperatures can be damaged due to heat pipes



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* CyberFenixPro That is, you think dig more precisely in the direction of the tower cooler?


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