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Oh cool, proof about koumiss with nicknames. Use and see in the logs, whose threads addressed to Nastenchik were removed? I found one thread, it was created by this user:
Barabas04
Lost him? Why was his thread deleted?
That is why
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Sorian, I have a bit of a daub on something that can be seen on other screens.

Q: What happens if you have registered for about 24 hours (there are several signs, they all have this account) the account sends the same link to QMS to several dozen users?
A: He is banned, and all his messages are deleted.
Just in case, I will explain why this happens. Almost all users who fall into such a ban are spammers, and the link sent is spam or viruses. Once a month, perhaps, a user gets there by chance, they are released from there by Super, for which the message is stored in a journal.

Generally some funny statistics:
  1. The table with messages of the forum weighs 36.7 gigs, this is over 13 years, the forum is moderated by an army of moderators and curators.
  2. The QMS message table weighs 24.3 gigabytes, this is 4 (or 5?) Years from system replacement. How many treacherous admins and moderators need to read this? In addition, one dropped out.

Ok, you can only read some, right? Well, then this freshly registered user should have definitely attracted our attention, he also stands out against the rest of the 6 million ...

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dci @ 11/08/18 00:34*
proof about koumiss with nikami. We will use and see in the logs

As a friend with administrative experience, it is ridiculous to read amazing exclamations “koumiss turns out to be read !!!”
There are only rules of ethics of administrators, and the technical possibility is given)
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dci @ 8.11.18, 0:34*
2. The table with QMS messages weighs 24.3 gigabytes, this is 4 (or 5?) Years from system replacement. How many treacherous admins and moderators need to read this? In addition, one dropped out.

Do not you think that this "table" should not be? It's personal!


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That is, you have just confirmed that the administration is reading the user's personal messages (ok, let's say not all but “specials”)
But what about the privacy of personal messages? And what if I send naked photos to someone?


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SaWSeM @ 11/08/18 01:00*
Do not you think that this "table" should not be? It's personal!

I see you understand in IT. When you go to the site and open koumiss - we will get its contents for you from where? Do not want something to be stored - delete the message.


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dci @ 8.11.18, 0:11*
Do not want something to be stored - delete the message.

Do you really, after our removal, do not leave the audit or message logs?


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Do not want something to be stored - delete the message.

Do not want something to be stored -DO NOT STORE!


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@ tka4enko @ 11/08/18, 01:03*
That is, you have just confirmed that the administration is reading the user's personal messages (ok, let's say not all but “specials”)
But what about the privacy of personal messages? And what if I send naked photos to someone?

Are you really unfamiliar with such a method of speech as sarcasm?
I will write the message of the previous post directly, once with sarcasm it is not clear:
We have no tools for reading koumiss. You also have an honest Super with a bunch of screenshots of all sorts of admin-supersky things - why don't you ask him?
Physically, of course, we have access to the koumiss tables, it cannot but be.
If you suddenly thought that the “tool” and “physical access” are equivalent concepts, then here's a hyperbola to illustrate: try without using the fs driver, only using a hex editor, read the fragmented file from the flash drive. Or rather, several at once, lying in some specific folders, simultaneously with the record in them.
Wh1skeyM0tel @ 11/08/18, 01:09*
@ tka4enko, and everyone is unanimously forgotten about privacy when it comes to benefits

Oh, finally a benefit. Tell me where can I get it?

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@ tka4enko @ 08.11.18, 01:18*
Do you really, after our removal, do not leave the audit or message logs?

The audit does not remain, already a bunch of screenshots with an audit in public - look what remains there. There is a log with the fact of removal. A year later, the log is destroyed.


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SaWSeM @ 11/08/18, 01:21*
Do not want something to be stored - DO NOT STORE!

Ok, let's try again:
Here you wrote a message to someone. I, let's say. I will come tomorrow, but in a year I will want to see the same message from the phone as well, let's say.
Where does it come from on my screen again? Where are these letters will lie until tomorrow? Until next year? In the blockchain? In the cloud? In the noosphere? In limbo?

This is a rhetorical question.


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* dci,
No, well, ok with this qms, everything is already clear to everyone, and why would not admins do this?>Reporting what happened - Removal of Super Smartecs (Post SaWSeM # 78758890)

There is such a situation
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We had an internal conflict on the forum, which resulted in tough actions - blocking the Smartecs Super Moderator, removing several Moderators
Do you need to solve it? Why not allow the dialogue to ALL the parties? Buttondeleveryone can reap, but to talk ...


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SaWSeM @ 11/08/2018 05:00*
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Do not you think that this "table" should not be? It's personal!

Tables in the database can not be, because Messages must be stored somewhere, so that from there they can be taken and displayed on the php page.
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dci @ 8.11.18, 1:23*
Tell me where I can get it, and then cheto some losses yet?

Oh, you are so funny. And you imagine, the benefit does not always lie on the surface, it is necessary to think sometimes, look
I will answer a question with a question - but tell me where can I get information that my data is protected according to the legislation of the Russian Federation? And then I can’t sleep peacefully, all of a sudden the infu is drained.

And by the way,
dci @ 8.11.18, 1:23*
sarcasm

But now you think that you are in such a position that sarcasm is appropriate?
Again, I'm not saying that you have just shown your “arrogant” look from the height of the admin status to the other groups.
No, just to take it and explain why this is so, and not differently.

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dci @ 8.11.18, 1:23*
Oh, the catch. Tell me where I can get it, and then cheto some losses yet?

It's sarcasm?
What are you fighting for here?

For example, I was once explained here that a person is so called because it can not be opened by anyone, except for 2 people leading it, and there is also a moral law.
In general, we are in the last messages left from the main issue.


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dci @ 11/08/18 01:11*
Do not want something to be stored - delete the message.
Obviously, the other party must also delete this message. And it is doubtful that the removal of the post only one, completely "cleaned" this post from the database. Yes, and clean-whether ... I understand that the engine is already, we can assume samopisny, but in IPB / IPS nothing prevents the admin to read the drugs of users when accessing the database. Except conscience, of course.


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Wh1skeyM0tel @ 11/08/18, 01:32*
I will answer a question with a question - but tell me where can I get information that my data is protected according to the legislation of the Russian Federation? And then I can’t sleep peacefully, all of a sudden the infu is drained.

Not my site, I will not tell you. I will not even say what site status in terms of this Federal Law and, accordingly, what obligations this status imposes.
Wh1skeyM0tel @ 11/08/18, 01:32*
Again, I'm not saying that you have just shown your “arrogant” look from the height of the admin status to the other groups.

Haughty? Write it on the bill proof. After it, I could not continue to write seriously, I'm sorry.
aleks-man @ 11/08/18, 01:32*
What are you fighting for here?

Well, it seems to someone that I am arrogant, to someone that I fight ... I looked here before bedtime for a good mood and did not lose.
aleks-man @ 11/08/18, 01:32*
For example, I was once explained here that a person is so called because it can not be opened by anyone, except for 2 people leading it, and there is also a moral law.

A lichka is called a QMS, if I'm not mistaken, but what follows from these letters ... The sender, the recipient can read itand comrade major, but only terrorists. Not sure if this is related to the name.
If you are confused by the physical access of the administrator to the table with messages, you have one way out, end2end, and not any, but the one in which you yourself generate and control keys. Mail with GPG will do.
Hint: if the messenger allows you to log in and see the content by SMS or code from the message - this is not a real end2end, this is marketing. Keys with this scheme are kept by the same admin as the encrypted text.

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Violence Jack @ 11/08/18, 01:36*
Obviously, the other party must also delete this message. And it is doubtful that the removal of the post only one, completely "cleaned" this post from the database. Yes, and clean-whether ... I understand that the engine is already, we can assume samopisny, but in IPB / IPS nothing prevents the admin to read the drugs of users when accessing the database. Except conscience, of course.

Yes, this is a valid comment. Galki, as in the cart we do not have, it is needed.


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dci @ 8.11.18, 0:34*
whose threads addressed to Nastenchik have been removed? I found one thread, it was created by this user: Barabas04
Lost him? Why was his thread deleted?
no, not his dialogue was deleted and lost ...
dci @ 8.11.18, 0:34*
He gets banned, and all his messages are deleted.
so implied, therefore further and did not "arise". In general, I am glad that the problem was noticed, it is a pity to explain at once they did not bother ... but now it turns out that there is also a deletion of messages from Barabas, but I did not notice: D


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dci @ 8.11.18, 1:11*
Do not want something to be stored - delete the message.

It certainly will not be stored: D


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dci @ 11/08/18, 01:46*
For a good mood, I looked here before bedtime and did not lose.
But I just woke up, read it, and now I can’t get up from laughing under the table ...
Well that began open communication with ordinary "nebratyami." But even here and now for some reason, the posts are rubbing. How can one make a complete picture of the state of affairs in such a situation ?! After all, it turns out that while I slept for a few hours I overslept something interesting ... That's how you are now meconvince that they do not hide anything from me and work exclusively in the interests of users ???
And the fact that users make a profit by viewing advertising news and sponsorship ads is clear to any educated fifth-grader. And where this profit is going, I am not interested - I was not used to looking over the fence.


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Nastènchik @ 11/08/18, 07:32*
not his

Well, not him, so not him. Let it be his brother-spammer by reference and methods. : lol:
For completeness, I leave the chronology:
22:05 - he writes you a thread with a link.
22:06, 22:18, 22:21, 22:25- you write different posts on the forum.
22:26 - it blocks.
22:40 - you writefastthat deleted a thread with a link.
Stealth3001 @ 08.11.18, 08:55*
for some reason, rubbing posts

Of course, to hide the truth. Well, or because offtopic. Now do not understand.
Stealth3001 @ 08.11.18, 08:55*
users make a profit by viewing advertising news and sponsorship ads

First, no, it doesn't work that way.
Secondly, where does koumiss and the removal of threads come from? You could not help but notice the context and pull the phrase out of it?
Oleg Mikhalych @ 11/08/18 09:29*
live well with one statistic, isn't it? No problem.

How did you get me! These pathetic numbers, but what do they all mean!
Admit it, are you a guest on earth?
A gaming theme with sarcasmball would be popular. At least with me.

In general, this branch with koumiss is offtopic. I went offline until the evening, and moderators please remove it all later. If there is then a topic, such as "Fishing Dialogues" - you can pull it out into it.


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In general, this branch with koumiss is offtopic.

then answer by CASE>tykortyts

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