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Specifications

Android в„ў OS Android TV Nougat (7) and Oreo (8) (depending on model). In budget models (from 6803 to 5803), Saphi TV is used instead of Android TV.
Processor: MT5596 (4 cores of 1.1 GHz Cortex-A53 + Mali-T860 MP2 700 MHz) at 7303 and higher; MT5802 (4 cores) on from 6803 to 5803.
RAM: 2 GB - at 7303 and higher; on models from 6803 to 5803 - is unknown.
Internal memory: 16 GB

Comparison of the characteristics of 2018 philips TVs

Useful

Service manual for platform TPE18.1ELA

How to find out the year of the TV

The last digit in the title of the TV indicates the year of manufacture:
[*]8 - 2013
[*]9 пїЅ 2014
[*]0 - 2015
[*]1 - 2016
[*]2 - 2017
[*]3 - 2018
[*] etc.
Example:Philips 65PUS8503/ 12 is a model 2018 release
ISF Calibration
IPTV

User Reviews

49PUS8303

Firmware

Service firmware android 7 TPM171E _ 105.001.002.006

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Post has been editedmihadom - 12.12.18, 09:31

Reason for editing: IPTV

[mmm134]

Dragnill @ 06/22/18, 14:19

is the difference between 49pus8503 and 49pus8303?

Well, in the plate you can see the difference - the soundbar was added in 8503, and another stand is slightly different (not transparent).

Post has been editedmmm134 - 22.06.18, 16:15

[johnnydarcy]

Good afternoon. And is the difference of the model 50 6503 and last year’s known at about the same level? besides design and updated os? Is the matrix the same va?

[mmm134]

Today was free time and I finally calibrated the ISF modes so far only for non-HDR (!) Content in my TV (8303). Found the same problem of "clipping" white, which was described for the model 7502, when TV does not reproduce bright shades above 236 at any values ​​of brightness / contrast.
The default color space settings in all the preset modes for the “normal” color range are quite far (wider) from the standard BT.709, so all colors look “overcooked” (skin, faces, grass ...), and the white balance is too “cold” ". Closest to the standard color temperature of 6500K is the "warm" mode, although in it>7200K. It wasn’t immediately possible to get an image quality that suits me “by eye” and even quickly with the device ... I spent a lot of time, but I gained some experience in setting up a TV and, most importantly,the result is worth it!
I post the final settings that can be useful to someone from the owners of this model in the absence of a spectrophotometer ... although I just want to warn you about possible individual differences in calibration for each copy of the TV !:

== ISF mode after calibration: white temperature ~ 6500K, brightness - 142 cd, gamma - 2.2, average delta (according to the test of 100 color patches) - 2.8, maximum - 6.9.
Picture
- Color: 51
- Contrast: 0
- Brightness: 52
Optional - color:
- Color: norm.
- Color temperature: pol.
- User Colour temperature
- WP: R = 127, G = 118, B = 78
- BL: R = -1, G = 0, B = -5
- Color management:
- Hue: R = 0, Y = -9, G = 0, C = -5, B = 0, M = -1
- Saturation: R = 0, Y = -9, G = 0, C = 3, B = 0, M = 2
- Lightness: R = 0, Y = 2, G = 0, C = -1, B = 0, M = 9
Contrast:
- Contrast mode: off.
- Dynamic contrast: off.
- Contrast video: 100
- Optical sensor: off.
- Gamma: 1

Post has been editedmmm134 - 19.07.18, 22:16

Reason for editing: corrected the settings values ​​because found that attempting to accurately adjust base colors (RGB) to a standard leads to strong irregularities within the color space and a deterioration in the overall accuracy

[mmm134]

After buying a TV, I complained about the flickering backlight. I thought that I’m the only one who is annoying ... but it turns out that there isn’t. Today I read an interestingan articlewhich confirms once again that the problem is not invented. For me it's generally a mystery with which such savings are “in matches”, even in the products of most well-known TV manufacturers. Perhaps only because People are eating ... In any case, it is useful to know everything, especially those who only choose TV and have not paid attention to it before.

[shadow_405]

Hello. I choose a TV 49-55 inches, thinking about 49PUS6412 (49PUS6482 here, apparently, is not for sale at all, only I saw one muddy office cifryka.ru).
Unfortunately, this series in 2018 (for example, 55PUS6703) is released on Saphi TV, so I do not consider it.
Should I overpay for 50PUS7303 or higher, will the picture be significantly better than 49PUS6412? In the 2017 branch there are a lot of complaints about the 4K and HDR reproduction almost from all sources, can we hope for the best? And what about the software in terms of reboots, hangs, etc.?

[mmm134]

Shadow_405 @ 06.28.18, 13:45

4K and HDR playback

I have (8303) on the latest firmware with 4K HDR playback (with USB HDD) problems with the built-in player show up somewhere after an hour of viewing: incomprehensible brakes and twitching begin (similar if not the same problem as on the 2017 TV line of the year). There are no problems with coding. Also native playerpodglyuchivaetwhen playing files with fps = 23.976. there isbugwith the use of manual color adjustments after turning on the TV, and there is some kind of complex dependence on the preset image settings for different sources: if you switch between signal sources with different preset settings, then color adjustments are still applied.

Shadow_405 @ 06.28.18, 13:45

What about software in terms of reboots, hangs, etc.?

When I intensively tuned in a couple of spontaneous TV reboots, I didn’t understand what was connected with. Under normal use (watching TV / video), it has never crashed.

[sidney77]

Added support for HDR10 + for 2018 models (starting with the 8xx3 series)

A new firmware has just been released (TPM171E: 105.1.2.6), here is the list of changes

• Supports introduction of the OLED803 and OLED903 ranges
  
• Supports power on via RC5 universal remote control
  
• Supports HDR10 + for 8xx3 and higher
  
• Support for Iceland
  
• Fix for echo heard on HBBTV
  
• Fix for OLED screensaver activated every 2 min. when teletext subtitles are on
  
• Fix for PQ settings lost after standby
  
• Fix for Ambilight Hue lamps during SW upgrade in standby
  
• Improvement for screensaver in shop mode
  
• Improvement for DVB-C Telemachine channel installation time
  
• Update for channel logo
  
• Update for wrong translations

[mmm134]

Sidney77 @ 06.29.18, 22:05

A new firmware has just been released (TPM171E: 105.1.2.6)

Oh how! 15 minutes ago, I just put the previous 105.000.215.003 from the flash drive (I did not wait for auto-update). I thought it might have corrected the use of color settings ... the fig there, the glitches are in place (maybe "Fix for PQ settings lost after standby" is this it ?!). Although it seems to fix the playback of files with fps = 23.976 (it will be necessary to test on different videos).

Post has been editedmmm134 - 29.06.18, 23:26

[sidney77]

In general, the inclusion of HDR10 + only for 2018 models smacks of a small “scam” from Philips: the platform is the same for both the 2017 models and the 2018 models!

Marketing is such a marketing, yes ...

[mmm134]

Sidney77 @ 06.29.18, 23:18

smacks of a small "scam" from Philips

Yes, I cannot but agree: harsh and merciless marketing ... there are no technical limitations, there are only the business interests of the company, which, through artificial segmentation of products on the market, is trying to encourage consumers to buy more expensive models. Somewhat offensive that this has become the norm for absolutely all manufacturers ... but this is a business.

I installed the firmware 105.1.2.6 from the flash drive. As a result:
1. Despite the description of “Fix for PQ settings lost after standby”, the problem with the application of manual color correction settings was only partially solved. Now when you switch the presets of the image or signal source, all manual adjustments are always applied (hurray!), But after sleep you still need to manually switch them at least once to load them :( (in the end, I found out that the color settings are ALWAYS loaded !! Automatically if for the home screen and for the desired signal source are installed DIFFERENT color settings presets (i.e. it can be said that the problem has been solved).
2. Playing files with fps = 23.976 not HDR now seems to work, but with incomprehensible brakes in the first few seconds of the video. For HDR with fps = 23.976, nothing has changed, the problem with playback before the pause remained.
3. There was a new small problem when playing test clips without sound: now constantly (during the entire video) an inscription like "The format of the audio is not recognized or missing" jumps across the screen, although these are trifles, since hardly anyone often watches a video without a star. tracks.
4. The built-in media player has not yet verified, but I think it is also unchanged there.

No other changes have been noticed so far.

ZY After the firmware, the TV refused to update the firmware in the remote because of the message "the batteries are low". Although the console is still working without complaints, but it is somehow strange that the alkaline batteries are discharged in a month ... Is this generally normal? Who does the batteries in the remotes last?

ZY.ZY.Y. I checked the built-in player - all without changes. I tried to watch c USB HDD movies (4K HDR, HEVC, average bitrate of 59.8 Mbps, max. - 109): at first everything is fine, but at the 77 minute the brakes started ... more precisely, not even the brakes, but the video just stops and nothing else. Specially checked on VLC - the whole 2 hours is perfect (there are no hints of friezes at all).

Post has been editedmmm134 - 03.07.18, 10:43

[nikolajs2013]

Who does the batteries in the remotes last?
Philips 7303, bluetooth remote, for three months now. "Batteries are discharged", it was the same: it was inserted and delivered back and the firmware in the console was updated.

[shadow_405]

mmm134
That is, a third-party player solves all problems? And from a flash drive, and via the Internet, and on YouTube 4K HDR video works without problems?
I am interested in the difference in the picture between the rulers 73xx-75xx-78xx-85xx (83xx on sale in Russia did not see). I understand that the more expensive the model, the better it should be, but is this difference noticeable in practice?
And please explain about HDR. As I understand it, now mainly HDR 10 and Dolby Vision are used, the latter is more in the premium segment, HDR 10+ is a certain analogue of HDR 10 from Samsung. What is HDR Plus, which is used in the 7 series?

[mmm134]

Nikolajs2013 @ 07/03/18, 15:52

vitschil and delivered back

I just bought another set of batteries and put a new one for the firmware, and then I returned the old ones - while they were working. Maybe just TV (for backup) requires 100% battery charge for firmware.

shadow_405 @ 07/03/18 17:52

And from a flash drive, and via the Internet, and on YouTube 4K HDR video works without problems?

Yes, there is no problem with a USB disk with a third-party player (and even built-in for not very long videos). In youtube, too, everything is fine (no brakes), but TV is not reporting the transition to HDR mode ... not sure how important this is.

shadow_405 @ 07/03/18 17:52

... 73xx-75xx-78xx-85xx ... is this difference noticeable in practice?

To do this, you need to put these TV near and evaluate ... Unfortunately, I have no such opportunity. Yes, I also chose my 8303 "blindly" (according to characteristics), we carried it under the order. The principal difference between the 7th and 8th series of this year is the frequency of the matrix (60 vs. 120 Hz) and the extended color coverage.

shadow_405 @ 07/03/18 17:52

And please explain about HDR ...

So I really can not understand ... Everywhere they quote the same phrase with some translation variations.
To summarize, there are 2 most common standards in which HDR video content is encoded: the proprietary "Dolby Vision" and the open "HDR 10" originally developed by Samsung and Amazon (there is also an open "Hybrid Log Gamma", but, as I understand it, mainly intended for broadcasting HDR in the future). The new standard "HDR 10 Plus" (aka "HDR10 +") is the development of "HDR 10" and differs from it in the ability to dynamically change the brightness of EACH scene. In my understanding, this means that the TV itself will control the brightness during viewing, depending on the maximum value currently required (for each scene / frame), which is sufficient for correct display, i.e. if the scene can be shown at lower brightness, then TV will dynamically reduce its level in real-time video playback ... Correct me if I'm wrong.

[sidney77]

Mmm134 @ 07/03/18, 23:09

In youtube, too, everything is fine (no brakes), but TV is not reporting the transition to HDR mode ... not sure how important this is.

Not reported, because it does not go. Bug firmware - for the 2017 model year, the same situation. Phillips, it seems, are aware (i.e. will be corrected).

Post has been editedsidney77 - 03.07.18, 23:14

[mmm134]

Sidney77 @ 3.07.18, 23:12

Does not report because does not pass

Yes, it is logical. Question: how important is it? Not very convenient - yes, I want to correct - 100%. But there is no “magic”, but all that is happening is that the preset of image settings for HDR content is not automatically activated. If you really want to see HDR, you can manually adjust and activate one of the available presets (set the “wide gamma” and max. Brightness). More importantly, any 4K video works without “gags”.
By the way, settings ISF presets common to SDR and HDR content.

Post has been editedmmm134 - 04.07.18, 09:12

[shadow_405]

[email protected], 00:14

To do this, you need to put these TV near and evaluate ... Unfortunately, I have no such opportunity. Yes, I also chose my 8303 "blindly" (according to characteristics), we carried it under the order. The principal difference between the 7th and 8th series of this year is the frequency of the matrix (60 vs. 120 Hz) and the extended color coverage.

Yes, I'm in the know. Will be in one store - it will be interesting to look. And how then do different models of the 7 series differ from each other? And 8 series, too, by the way.

Mmm134 @ 07/03/18, 23:09

So I really can not understand ... Everywhere they quote the same phrase with some translation variations.
To summarize, there are 2 most common standards in which HDR video content is encoded: the proprietary "Dolby Vision" and the open "HDR 10" ...

Yes, the differences between HDR 10 and HDR 10+ are dark, but what is HDR Plus, which in all models up to 8 series? Does he even understand the standard HDR 10?

Post has been editedshadow_405 - 04.07.18, 11:49

[mmm134]

shadow_405 @ 04.07.18, 10:48

how then do different models differ from each other 7 ... Does he even understand the standard HDR 10?

see nameplate at the endarticles

shadow_405 @ 04.07.18, 10:48

What is HDR Plus, which in all models up to 8 series?

I understand that this is just marketing from Phillips: meaningless symbols dividing the lineup into some category made up by Philips (HDR Plus, HDR Premium, HDR Perfect) in order to help an ordinary buyer to decide (in fact, the abundance of “HDR” abbreviations is even more confusing because the name of the initial category “HDR Plus” from Philips is very similar to the name of the new standard “HDR 10 Plus”).

Post has been editedmmm134 - 04.07.18, 12:53

[shadow_405]

[email protected], 12:29

see the table at the end of the article

Thanks, much clears up! Then these questions:
1) Why is there an update rate of 50 and 100 Hz for the 7th and 8th series? I thought 60 and 120.
2) Why in more expensive 75 and 78 models use Edge Led, it, like, worse, than Direct Led. And what is the Nano Eled in the 8 series?
3) Regarding the sound: what is Triple-Ring, 3 speakers or what?

Apparently, we must look at models 83 or 85, 75 (78 for some reason even more expensive than 85) and 73, the brightness and colors, it seems, should decrease in this order. It depends on the price difference.

[mmm134]

1. It does not matter. If TV can rip 60 Hz, then 50 will be (also for 120-100 Hz). Sometimes they say 100, sometimes 120 ...
2. I am surprised myself ... this is a question for the Phillips :) "Nano Eled" is an analogue of the "QLED" Samsung (in fact, the technology of expanding the color coverage)
3. Philips power enhancement technology (in fact, a subwoofer at the back of the TV ... in fact, rather a mid-frequency one).

Post has been editedmmm134 - 04.07.18, 13:15

[shadow_405]

mmm134
But what about phillips with sound? Just in the DTS premium HD sound version, when adding this Triple-Ring and with a sound bar? I do not have audio systems and do not plan for now.