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Nettop Selection (mini-PC)

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What it is

Nettop (English nettop) - a small personal computer by physical size. The word "Nettop" is formed from "InterNET" and "deskTOP".
The term nettop (similar to desktop - desktop computer) was proposed by Intel at the time of the announcement of Atom processors, which, in the understanding of this company, should become the main base for creating nettops. Nettop is a stationary analogue of a netbook (English netbook) - a miniature network laptop.

Typical characteristics

As a basis for nettops, processors with energy efficient microarchitectures, that is, those that offer lower power consumption, are used. This is usually the Intel Atom, Intel Celeron, VIA Nano and VIA C7 CPUs. There are also solutions on the Intel Core 2 Duo, and the latter in idle mode are almost as good as the economics of the Intel Atom, and if necessary, provide much greater performance at the cost of a short-term increase in power consumption

• Central processor: 1.2-2.1 GHz, single core or dual core
  
• 2-4 GB DDR3 RAM
  
• Hard disk 80-500 GB
  
• Integrated video and sound cards.
  
• DVD drive
  
• USB 2.0, 3.0 LAN 10/100/1000 Mb / s ports
  
• WiFi, Bluetooth

Among nettops assembled in Russia, we can highlight ARUTEK MediaBox, DESTEN eStudio 1016MS, AxiomPC Micra, products from Depo Neos 420USF, Neos 210USF ION, OLDI ComputersВ® 210 Office Series, Wexler VisION, Wexler Nano, Wexler VisION-2, Aquarius Std S20 S22, USN NEONix. NET 330, USN NEONix. NET 333 ION, MaterIK Slim basic, and also Apple MacMini.

Description

One of the distinguishing features of the nettop is a "domesticated" design, the approximating this category of computers to the category of consumer devices. There are models with a more strict design office. In addition, usually, nettops have a small size, which allows more space on the desktop. For example Arbyte Nettop mounted behind the monitor to the standard VESA holes 100 * 100 mm. The cooling system of the computers has a low noise level, which is also important for use in homes and in the workplace.

Computing power nettops, in addition to work in the Internet and different network services, usually enough for listening to music, working with amateur photographs to view standard definition video and undemanding games. The latter model nettops are usually equipped with chipsets with integrated graphics from ATI AMD and nVidia, and allows comfortable enough to watch videos in FullHD format and play most modern games, even at lower graphics settings. For example: Acer Aspire Revo R3600, USN NEONix.NET 333 ION, ASUS Eee Box EB1012, MSI Windbox DE200 and other nettops that use NVIDIA ION chipset. Also, there are many new models on the basis of the integrated graphics from ATI AMD. For example, ZBOX Blu-ray AD03 - nettop based on AMD Fusion processor, desktop and nettop Dell Inspiron Zino, MSI WindBox DC500.

Post has been editedstp101 - 10.04.18, 17:24

Reason for editing: New cap author, cap Nik2001Nik3006

[class123]

fandnb @ 21.03.19, 06:51

Take another nettop, and threw me a link to other items in a completely different store ...

Here is the number, ie. they know there is a problem in some of the SS, but still send their customers ..
I have a memory ddr4-all ok with loads on percent

https: //i109.fastpic.r...27a26a221de4627a6f.jpg

Post has been editedclass123 - 21.03.19, 07:48

[big ticket]

Or maybe they just have to sell these

[Nite2]

class123 @ 21.03.19, 09:34

I have a memory ddr4-all ok with loads on percent

Put Pliz screenshot with the properties of the current power plan, approximately in the form (to be seen the plan itself, and this setting)

Attached images

Post has been editedNite2 - 21.03.19, 10:13

[class123]

Nite2,

Now, if I understand correctly

[Nite2]

class123,Yes it is. Thanks for the screenshot. It seems problematic to platforms with these settings will be parasitic load cpu (acpi.sys driver). At least on the internet I have seen such information.

And if, as I have in the image below, then download acpi.sys will not.

It is not clear what is the reason. Maybe the fact that the Chinese are on their platforms heavily cut out Intel's Management Engine. It is my guess.

Post has been editedNite2 - 21.03.19, 12:03

[class123]

Nite2,
probably for the same reason (ime) I still have not managed to roll on hakintosh minips, although the old BB with c2d and laptop with ay3 3rd generation crested with a tambourine ... but crested

Post has been editedclass123 - 21.03.19, 12:24

[fandnb]

class123And you have yourself 7ku rolled?

[class123]

fandnb
Yes, the computer usually comes with the linux 10koy or (your choice) I came with 10koy, SSD (60GB) is divided into two sections, the section titles in Chinese

Post has been editedclass123 - 21.03.19, 16:36

[sergiorrrr]

Guys who beelink s2 n4100? In the BIOS has the option to run after a power loss but not working! Can change the BIOS but no official

[mitnick]

fandnb

Before sending Throw me a video clip where you can see that the CPU idle is working correctly

And so it was possible? I take note ... But I'm afraid that even sellers of premium equipment will cease to get in touch
Can you rig for local search?

I note that the original platform called the X34, but a new seller in XCY # 3643007 calledX35(And still existsX32In the next post)
And och.populyarnye repeatedly referred to X45 and X55 to GeminiLake j5005
conspiracy theory: is there a X35 the original seller and he just tried to get rid of, or he has insider problems X34

Posted on 22/03/2019, 14:49:
the original seller Helor Cloud # 1169094 PlatformX35 in stockthere is
AndX30

Post has been editedmitnick - 22.03.19, 17:36

[fandnb]

mitnick @ 22.03.19, 00:39

And so it was possible? I take note ... But I'm afraid that even sellers of premium equipment will cease to get in touch
Can you rig for local search?

Why not ?
If I buy in the normal offline store goods (PC / phone / vacuum cleaner, and the list goes on) I'm on the ground I can check it.

Here I can not verify, but there is speculation that the goods be defective, and therefore I ask to make a video, what would make sure that my copy of such a defect is not.
If the seller (whether premium or not) interested in selling / in the client values ​​the rating and reputation, he will meet me. But while the Silence, the goods are not shipped.

Attached images

Post has been editedfandnb - 22.03.19, 16:58

Reason for editing: Added screenshot

[Geork]

mitnick
X34 on the box, in the description of the seller - also, but the experience turned out to w7 coincidence, could not repeat

[mitnick]

Vpalehin @ 18.02.19, 10:25

While the field of view was Lenovo IdeaCentre Q150. I am satisfied and the price (see b \ y) and in appearance. But I do not know how he and others like him will work with the video? And seen reviews that video retarding. Even whether to consider a mini PC with a processor as a media player?

I solved a similar problem, found that the border to support hardvarnogo decode somewhere in the 4th generation area int.grafikihttps: //en.wikipedia.o...nits#Fourth_generation
and close neighbor theme, it is more focused on purely multimedia applicationsSelecting Windows-media players (as well as miniPC, barebone and nettop based on this OSes) (Post udacha57 # 67203739)

[class123]

mitnick
Article added to that post, and on the page of the product it is to describe ... oh, skidochka good - "Sale" We are 9 years old ""
and here on the barebone 8250u general for 15.5tr Coupon tyts

Post has been editedclass123 - 23.03.19, 08:42

[LiveM]

There is such an option:

2 Pts similar if not identical to the goods:

-) on aliekspress $ 250 (16K rubles) without a label on the body:
https: //ru.aliexpress....hTfT&isOrigTitle=true)

-) and a separate better structured site for $ 310 with a label
https: //www.hystou.com...anless-mini-pc-i5-8250

On a dedicated website posted a list of technical questions (in English) in response teenie weeks did not.

As far as I understand: sebristy - with the i5, black - with i7.
Noticed the difference between the two different silver sellers: no company logo on the cover.

There are a couple of ideas why:
-) with the logo - it is second-hand dealers, povesivschie his label China product
-) without the logo - it is a fake

I did not find all that as the price of the issue decided.
I do not know what is, in fact, just ordered Ali.

Disadvantages (for me):
-) BIOS, probably not graphic
-) seems to be no support for PCIe SSD
-) SATA did not even want to even had a controller, but since apparently SSD is not connected to the PCIe bus - to somehow connect the SSD necessary.
-) is another throwback to D-SUB 15. I do not need a very superfluous
-) No USB type C
-) is not the smallest size (18 * 20 * 5 cm) compared to the NUC (12 * 12 * 3.5 cm), but still remains a mini-PCs like.
-) probably mat board purely Chinese, that there is a BIOS update / UEFI and its quality - is unclear. Hopefully there UEFI.
-) No hardvarnogo "patches" of three high-profile vulnerabilities - the holes are closed firmware mat. board may proca microcode (eg, available on Linux).
-) after a year and a half already unusual and should still appear to the end user such as fanless mini PC with CPU at 10nm resolution graphics c support 5K 8K hardware evil protect vulnerable, a new set of instructions supported hardvarnogo proca AVX family.

Of the great joys:
-) is very small compared to my current ATX-tower case
-) completely fanless (the current nastolkonom tower case was a fan on the power supply)
-) 4 buckets
-) support for 4K video
-), many USB
-) DDR-4 up to 32 GB (2 memory channel = 2 bars)
-) like the cheapest on the characteristics

if you take a new glance the RAM 8 + 8 = 16 GB = 6K rubles
ssd sata WD green 480 GB = 4K rubles

As a result of the 6K + 16K + 4K = 26K rubles
for modern PC c listed features

I hope not in vain typed text - can at least someone will come in handy if you do not own direct information, then it is possible in principle to pay attention more.

thanks to all!

Post has been editedLiveM - 25.03.19, 01:35

[mitnick]

LiveM,
PC to the English sitehystou.com == Of boutiques ali {hystou P03B} $ 275== {eglobal E / V8} $ 266 + == Yourlittle mentioned 4pda MsecoreUnlabeled is another non-branded clone of the above"Family-Uncle-liao"

Here the topic is even a twin ownersavagemessiahzine.com: Search 8250u. Store ali-mscore I would not give it $$$ because of ratings) I wish you a successful purchase and Keep us informed!

[AUS1]

Guys, so there are now 10-ke box without the parasitic load, capable of 4K with Yutuba drive? Its great selling PCs today and is Monica and workplace (physically) Somehow sad without a PC. Need mainly office, Chrome, and Youtube. Something sensible can advise?

[lanouri]

Good day everyone.

Choosing a mini-PC, whether they are suitable for gaming?
Our teenager rolled out just such a configuration:

Processor: intel core i-5 8600 k
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce gtx 1050ti 4G
Motherboard: Asus h110m-c
power supply: aerocool kcas-600W
Cooling System: cooler master geminli m5 led
Hard disk: toshiba 500G p300
Housing: Cooler Master MasterBox Lite 5

Is it possible to choose the same mini-PC, well, if he would, in principle, it's all pull?

[kaznelson]

lanouri @ 26.03.19, 16:14

Is it possible to choose the same mini-PC

For example, Zotac ZBOX-EK51060-BE with Intel i5 7300HQ and GeForce GTX 1060. But will cost well so maybe more 60 tr ...

[lanouri]

kaznelson @ 26.03.19, 16:28

Zotac ZBOX-EK51060-BE

oh figase, this configuration to the desktop with the monitor counted for 53,000 rubles :)