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IFrIT1439 @ 06/27/18 08:08*
Why does a CIA follow a man in Russia? no drugs and no weapons

Well, you never know ... Maybe you print the portraits of Beni Frankin, maybe you are distributing child porn, or maybe you contrived against democracies and freedoms :)
Well, it is not possible to imagine any involvement in state secrets!


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* Alex Klein,
Alex Klein @ 06/27/18 9:08*
against democracies with freedoms
what freedoms ??? How much does gasoline cost? What is the retirement age? What are pensions and benefits? What is the freedom of speech and correspondence? What medicine? And the VAT - 20%! And what inflation! This is not a democracy. I am generally against Western capitalism.

Posted on 06/29/2018 08:11:

Alex Klein @ 06/27/18 9:08*
Well, it is not possible to imagine any involvement in state secrets!
hardly guess. : rolleyes:


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IFrIT1439 @ 06.29.18, 08:10*
How much does gasoline cost?
$ 3.15 per gallon on average.
IFrIT1439 @ 06.29.18, 08:10*
A VAT - 20%
The CIA knows this, I think.
IFrIT1439 @ 06.29.18, 08:10*
hardly guess.

And I will not. If there was a person ... :)


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* Alex Klein,
Alex Klein @ 06/29/18, 10:39*
The CIA knows this, I think.
so, their people started it.


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* Roger wilco, * Alik_xan, Telegram reads user messages
Who else will say that Telegram is safe? I was right. : P

Posted 07/07/2018 16:22:

By the way, receivers / transmitters operating at frequencies other than those allowed are banned in Russia. Through customs can not be transported - a criminal case.


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* IFrIT1439, you're right: lol:: rofl:
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* Alik_xanI knew that I was right from the very beginning of this discussion.


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IFrIT1439 @ 06.25.18, 10:21*
and you trust it? He has the closed source code! Where such confidence?
Alik_xan @ 06.25.18, 10:57*
I trust, in my opinion, closed source code is not so scary
IFrIT1439 @ 06.26.18, 8:17*
well and trust further: rofl:. How do you know that your correspondence does not read the CIA? MIA? that there is encryption? How can you trust? The fact that his "all" is used - does not mean anything. Not everyone needs security.
IFrIT1439 @ 07/06/18 16:18*
Roger Wilco, Alik_xan,Telegram reads user messages
Who else will say that Telegram is safe? I was right. : P

Telegram only schoolchildren "from the street" trust. : D

Post has been editedIFrIT1439 - 15.07.18, 09:01
Reason for editing: Link


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* IFrIT1439, is reading? Hmm. People, very far from understanding how computers work, sucked the sensation out of their finger. Now the technical level of the opponents telegrams became clear :)


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* skalana, I just copied the article title from the site.
If you do not understand the meaning of the word "reading", then this is your problem.
The technical level is much more than that of supporters who do not know what the source code is.

Post has been editedIFrIT1439 - 15.07.18, 12:00


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* IFrIT1439, those who have more technical level will not write nonsense about "reading messages."


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But what's the difference "reads" is there something or does not "read"? In any case, this crap is not protected, just look who the owner is. A clowning with the keys only confirms that the keys have long been "where necessary": D


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* Dr.LiveseyI understand that my
IFrIT1439 @ 3.03.18, 23:28*
The safest way to communicate!
justifies its name.

Post has been editedIFrIT1439 - 15.07.18, 18:12


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* Dr.Livesey,
Maybe for someone here it will be a surprise, but in Telegram there is a function “Secret chats” with through encryption. Therefore, this is a perfectly secure correspondence.


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* skalana
blessed is he who believes;)
Nothing is perfect on this planet.
And end-to-end encryption is not a panacea.
No one canceled backdoors: grabli:


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Dr.Livesey @ 07.16.18, 07:16*
No one canceled backdoors: grabli:

the source code is open, look for backdoors as much as you like, there is a library too, if you want, you can write your own client, there you only need a UI, in fact.


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* skalana, sourceclosed! Where are your keys stored? On the device? Why then can you read messages from another device? You have no keys.If they exist at all

Posted 07/16/2018 10:53 AM:

* Dr.Liveseyas far as I know, pgp is not hacked.

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Only UI is needed, in fact.
When it comes to security on the UI do not care :)
source code is open,
Source server is closed.
The client source code is essentially the same: there are binary open source blobs. But you can whistle in advertisements that the code is of the type "open".
Even if it was open, one and a half geeks who can and will compile themselves do not change anything globally, when it is important to hide something, they are able to use something more reliable, and from which source code they get what they put for everyone no one except the developer knows: grabli:


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* Dr.Livesey,
In the case of end-to-end encryption on the openness / closeness of the server absolutely do not care.
The tdlib library is fully open and its sources are available. Compile and use as much as you want in your client.
Dr.Livesey @ 07.16.18, 12:14*
Even if it were open, one and a half geeks who can and will want to compile themselves do not change anything globally,

“I’m too lazy / I don’t know how to compile a client, so it’s not safe.” : D
If you think that the code is not safe - indicate specific places in the code, if this is confirmed, you will even be paid money according to the error trapping program. And if you can't, then you just shake the air and mislead people.


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