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DiscussionHP iPAQ hx 4700
HP iPAQ hx4700 / 4705 / HTC Roadster

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Firmware: HP iPAQ 4700 WM6.1 (Alkor Edition) | HP iPAQ 4700 WM6.1 (kozhura Edition) | HP iPAQ 4700 WM6.1 (PDAVIET Edition) | HP iPAQ 4700 WM6.1 (Vietnam Edition Part 3) .

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ATTENTION!!! Batteries from HP iPAQ 214, with apparent external similarity, do not fit the HP iPAQ 4700. Burn the battery !!!

Remaking battery from HP iPAQ 214 to HP iPAQ 4700. Thank youromera
In order for the battery from 214th to start charging at 4700m, you need to rearrange the controller.
We take any battery from 4700 (if it is original, but there is Chinese, then at least take AKME or Cameron Sino) and remove the controller from it.
Akkum (both from 4700 and from 214th) consists of 4 parts. Sticker wrapped around plastic frame. Two elements and a controller with 7 outputs soldered to them.

1. Remove the sticker from the old battery from the 4700th, we see two elements with a soldered controller in a plastic frame.
2. We take out these elements with the controller from the frame. They are held on two teeth and removed easily. The controller itself is a microcircuit in the end with 7 outputs and strips like zinc which are soldered to the elements.
3. Take the tester and find + and - on these soldered strips. And we plan them.
4. We strip the strips from the elements and the controller is in our hands. The strips are marked + and - as I wrote above - this is important!
5. We disassemble the battery from the 214th similarly and mark + and - on the elements from the 214th.
6. Solder the strips with the controller from the 4700th to the elements from the 214th according to the intended polarity)
7. Putting it all in reverse order.

As a result, we get a new battery, two elements from 4700, and a controller from 214.
From the remnants you can collect akkum for 214go. but with old items from the 4700s.
Maybe I painted difficult, but in fact the whole operation is quite simple.


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Well, what is there to discuss something. Large with a large monitor, but flat (14 mm total). The case material is bounded. Very heavy. The characteristics of the processor (624 x-skyl) are the highest today, ROM 128, RAM 64. There are more RAM. Everything is as usual, except for the screen. Full VGA 640Х480. It is larger in size than the PDA, but not only in size. Image quality - the main trump 4700! It is thanks to him that it is possible to work with almost any fonts, the icons are all full-fledged, they are not square, etc. Over time, I will write a more detailed review.

For future owners, I can only say one thing: there are and, moreover, there will be devices, cooler than 4700 in terms of processor, memory, etc. But if they do not have VGA - sad. Since after the VGA monitor to look at something lower quality is already annoying.


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VGA monitor software has one interesting feature - auto-adjusting the brightness of the display depending on the lighting. The brighter the ambient light, the brighter the display. The less light, the image becomes softer and darker. Convenient when reading in the dark - no need to fumble on the brightness settings. The whole thing is controlled by a sensor in the upper face of the PDA. Paradoxically, this feature is not mentioned anywhere. By the way, if you work in a relatively dark room, the battery life increases by 20 percent.

The disadvantages of VGA include increased power consumption and video viewing. If you convert video files for VGA to 640x480 pixels, the source file is reduced by only 10-15% of the volume. If you convert with reduced video quality, then VGA will demonstrate all the compression jambs to the maximum ...

Another pathetic detail - the so-called. "joystick". He is a sesor. Those. on it you can only move your finger, for example, to flip through the pages. 5 main points of depression are also sensory. However, if it is convenient to flip through pages, then use this system for games, etc. problematic - the accuracy of operation, especially for fast movements (for example, in Tetris) is useless. Therefore, all the advantages of this "baubles" are extinguished by the described disadvantages.


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Well, as I understand it, the defect is known .. The type through the speaker does not work, but through the headphones it's great .. And then I recently read about repairing another HP with the same defect .. And now I want to ask .. Because the sound disappeared from the time I put the headphones into it .. In my mind, just the contacts did not come back and you can bend them with a screwdriver .. But it’s scary to disassemble it - it’s because I’m so fucked up)) Without sound, I won’t die, but spoil the device sorry for me)
The question in principle is this - is it so scary to disassemble the HP4700? Will the screen not immediately fall out if you carelessly open the screen on the floor, are any wires broken and how easy is it to close something so that black smoke goes?)) And so Is it easy to assemble it back?) I am sure that the specialists here have already disassembled it)
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Do not make out better. You get tired. There are so many details .... Then you can not collect. Try better hook crochet hook. The benefit of thin krbchki there. Or on a needle needle when heated, try to bend it. This is my IMHO only.


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Someone on the forum with such a face.

The stylus inserted into the hole helped. You can try a toothpick.


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<It was the Auger that Jem had my month and a half back, (also contacts) put a “jet” in the nest, moved it, and there and then a few groove and that's it !!! Until now, pah-pah :)


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Discontinued products - HP iPAQ hx4700 Pocket PC
This product is no longer for sale. Listed below if you are interested in purchasePicture
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Here I am interested in such a product, what thoughts you have. Please justify your point of view, otherwise you need to, and I can think about it with myself.
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After flashing the ROM to version 1.10, downloaded from the official HP website, it became impossible to work with 4700: angry:::
SPB applications constantly hang up, after which you have to do a reboot, it also became impossible to work with GPS programs (GPS Ukraine, NATEC), the Blue Tooth in general spontaneously turns off. Find the old firmware is not possible. Just some kind of horror: help: ...
I bought, 2750-everything works fine (flies), now I am sitting with two PDAs :) ... If anyone has any ideas what can be done with 4700, write
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After flashing ROM to version 1.10

I have this firmware version, SPB applications work fine, and
"Blue tooth"
no call no calls.
But reboots, indeed, have to be done often ... :(

http://h18007.www1.hp.com/support/files/Ha.../1120_6089.html
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Well, yes, I, as you say, I am one of us, that is, the happy owner of the SAGER.

By the way - abouthttp://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/uk/en/sm/WF...09-8115561.html- it only stopped selling in England. Read the news and do not panic.

What do you want to say about him ... (attention! Revelation on the topic "The Truth About 4700", for those who are only going to buy it).

Let's start with losing the bones to various magazine and online articles about 4700;)

"624 megahertz is the fastest today ..." - the processor is the most, but the machine itself has a competitor in the person of Dell Axim 50v. And somewhere else, in my opinion, there is such a percentage.

"Hard buttons are located on the point, so it is impossible to feel their pressing tactilely!" - a pebble in the IXBT garden - you could only write this without holding the PDA in your hands. The buttons are not located on the touchpad, but nearby, and their pressing is well noticeable.

Even in the descriptions 4700 constantly write that he has a USB-host and RS232. Usb host may have, but apparently you need to buy a separate wire (did not ventilate this issue). But where he has RS232 for me apparently forever remain a terrible secret.

And then about the cover. Absolutely stupid cover on the screen ... Which among other things leaves ugly marks on the body.

It is also inconvenient that the headphone jack, the power button and the space for the stylus are too close. When the headphones are turned on in the device, removing the stylus and pressing the button becomes wildly uncomfortable.

And the button itself is too tight ...

In general these were all minuses and exposures =)

In fact, the device pleases. The case is durable, the screen is awesome. Good weight =)


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USB host on it is not in principle
The lid is not a stupid thing, many do not like covers, so as not to turn the PDA in size into a sabnotebook, and then the lid is very appropriate, and if you have a touchpad and cursor mode, you can not touch the screen in many cases Once the lid closes very well.
Among the other advantages, they forgot about the Battery - the biggest today is 1,800 + there is an additional 2 times more, i.e. 3600 + there is a battery made in the form of a case - 5700.
RAM can be increased to 128 for approx. 169 cu

P.S.
I have firmware 1.10 and firmware upgrade for it
programs from Spb - Wheater, Pocket Plus, Folder
No glitches, resets do not constantly do

Really harsh on / off buttons and voice recorder
but IMHO it is a controversial question is convenient or not
On the one hand, they are not accidentally pressed, on the other hand, for those who scroll through the page readers, it’s probably not convenient to use the voice recorder button; I personally scroll through tapada, it’s convenient for me to hold it in one with both hands. Finger length allows


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Is the touchpad comfortable? In which mode do you use it? How to mouse?


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And then about the cover. Totally stupid screen cover ...

I think this is not a "+" and not a "-", a personal matter.


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I use the touchpad all the time, I need to get used to the click that simulates a mouse click and dragging.
But in general, it is a moot point for someone to like someone. I did not like touchpads on laptops before, at 4700 the design made me learn to use :-)
Now I just love this mode.


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I also have firmware 1.10 and firmware upgrade. Similarly - there are no glitches, I often do not do rezet. and generally better than 1.0

I also liked the lid first. And then I understood - he was missing. In general, Miocker is right - everyone's personal matter. But = again, IMHO - on many early models of the HP cover was made smarter. In the closed state, it was rigidly fixed and did not crease the body.

About the touchpad.

Say so, it is not more convenient to use it than the joystick on my old Axim X5.

That is, there is inconvenience. And their IMHO is about the same as when using joey.

Personally, I consider the touchpad a plus. Why? Yes, because =) Not so often I need a joey / touchpad. And in this case it is the absence of an extra mechanical part.

With the help of the touchpad, I look at the pictures, scrolling through the mobilizer. At first there were difficulties - then two pages at once flip through, then vice versa - press, press, but he does not flip through. Now I'm used to it - one light touch and everything is ok.

What else can you say about the touchpad? If you really care about it (in the nav point mode) you can really control the PDA with one hand (that is, the one in which you hold it) - not that convenient. Even rather uncomfortable. But probably. And I must say, it came to a couple of times.

Of course, this is not the feature for which it is worth taking this particular PDA, but it has a place to be.


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I forgot to answer the 2nd part of the question. Yes, I use it as a mouse.
1) All file operations - copy, drag and drop, delete
2) Inet - browsers, mobilizer, etc.
3) Some games - for example. same bejeweled
4) View photos, videos, listening to music
In general, wherever it is not necessary to type


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TechnO, Oct 10 2005, 10:32 PM
By the way - abouthttp://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/uk/en/sm/WF...09-8115561.html- it only stopped selling in England. Read the news and do not panic.


Very strange. I saw with my own eyes 4,700 in the discharge of discontinued at the Russian offsite HP. And now there is no such information. Can anyone know, he shot or not? Enlighten.

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