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Those. specifications
The main thing about the model

Body: 7000 series aluminum frame and brushed metal backside. Super Black, Fine Gold, Lunar Gray (T-Mobile exclusive)
Screen: 5.5 "QHD P-OLED display with ShatterShield (plastic lens instead of glass)
OS: Android 7.1.1 Nougat with Moto Enhancements (Moto Blur), up to Android 9.0 Pie
Chipset: Qualcomm Snapdragon 835, 10nm: octa-core CPU (4 - 2.35 GHz Kryo cores & 4 - 1.9 GHz Kryo cores) Adreno 540 GPU
Memory: 4 / 6GB of RAM, 64 / 128GB of storage, microSD expandable nanoSIM tray
Camera: Dual 12MP, f / 2.0, laser & PDAF, dual-tone LED flash, 1.25 µm pixel size
Secondary camera: 5MP fixed focus with f / 2.2 and dual-tone (dual) LED flash
Video: 4K video @ 30fps, 1080p @ 60fps, 1080 @ 30fps
Connectivity: nanoSIM (dualSIM available); Qualcomm X16 model capable of Gigabit LTE; dual-band Wi-Fi ac; Bluetooth 4.2 (5.0 support on Oreo), USB-C
Battery: Integrated 2730 mAh battery
Misc: NFC, Fingerprint sensor, MotoMod interface (backward compatible with 1.0)

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F.A.Q.
What is my model?
The exact model, as well as IMEI, serial number and production date, you can find out by going to Fastboot>Barcodes. If instead of the model (XT ****) some zeros, ask in the subject. Also there is an inscription at the power connector. There are seven models in total. Differ only in network frequencies, network status, bootloader status, memory size and color
  • Verizon (XT1789-01). 4G LTE B1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,13,17,20,25,26,28,66 network. CDMA BC0.1. UMTS / HSPA + B1,2,5,8. Unlock network: unlocked initially. Unlocking the bootloader: not possible. Number of SIM: 1. Color: black / gold. Memory 4 / 64Gb.

  • US Cellular (XT1789-02). 4G LTE B1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,13,17,20,25,26,28,66 network. CDMA BC0.1. UMTS / HSPA + B1,2,5,8. Unlock network: unlocked initially. Unlocking the bootloader: yes, for free. No. of SIM: 1, hacking 2. Color: black. Memory 4 / 64Gb.

  • Sprint (XT1789-03). 4G LTE B1,2,3,4,5,8,12,13,17,20,25,26,41 network. CDMA BC0,1,10. UMTS / HSPA + B1,2,4,5,8. Unlock Network: Free. Unlocking the bootloader: yes, for free. No. of SIM: 1, hacking 2. Color: black / gold. Memory 4 / 64Gb.

  • AT & T (XT1789-04). 4G LTE network B1,2,3,4,5,7,8,8,12,17,20,25,26,28,29,30,38,40,41-Japan & China, 66,252,255. No CDMA. UMTS / HSPA + B1,2,4,5,8. Unlocking the network: usually for a fee. Unlocking the bootloader: not possible. Number of SIM: 1. Color: black / gold. Memory 4 / 64Gb.

  • T-Mobile (XT1789-04). 4G LTE network B1,2,3,4,5,7,8,8,12,17,20,25,26,28,29,30,38,40,41-Japan & China, 66,252,255. No CDMA. UMTS / HSPA + B1,2,4,5,8. Unlocking the network: usually for a fee. Unlocking the bootloader: yes, for free. No. of SIM: 1, burglary 2. Color: silver. Memory 4 / 64Gb.

  • China, LatAm (XT1789-05). 4G LTE B1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,17,18,19,20,26,28 network. No CDMA. UMTS / HSPA + (?). Unlock network: unlocked initially. Unlocking the bootloader: yes, for free. Number of SIM: 1 or 2. Color: gold. Memory 4 / 64Gb (LatAm comes with 6Gb).

  • Global, Retail (XT1789-06). 4G LTE B1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,17,18,19,20,26,28,34,38,39,40,41,46 network. No CDMA. UMTS / HSPA + B1,2,4,5,8,19. Unlock network: unlocked initially. Unlocking the bootloader: yes, for free. Number of SIM: 1 or 2. Color: black. Memory 6 / 64Gb.
Note: hacking allows you to use a second SIM, with some reservations. For details, see the topic.Firmware

How to get into the "fastboot", what is it?
Fastboot- pre-boot menu, controlled by volume and power buttons, as well as a mode for performingteams. Enter it like this:
  • when the phone is turned off, hold down the Power and Vol Down buttons for 2-3 seconds, release.
  • turn off or restart the phone with the cable connected to the charging or computer, after holding Vol Down.
  • execute the commandadb reboot-bootloader . There should be drivers, adb itself, access allowed, etc.
Being in fastboot, you can get detailed information about the phone by running the command fastboot getvar all (Requires computer connection, driver, and adb + fastboot package).

And the "recovery"?
Recovery is a pre-boot environment for servicing Android, there are two types -officialand informal (usuallyTWRP). Functions: work with the file system, applying updates. How to get: from the fastboot mode we enter the Recovery item, we see the robot, hold down the Power, then a short press on Volume Up, release both buttons. Next menu, move the volume buttons, confirm with the Power button. For example, you can completely reset the smart to factory settings (wipe data / factory reset).

Remind, please, how to make a screenshot? And safe mode at the same time.
The screenshot is made by simultaneously pressing the Power + Vol Down buttons, and you can boot up with a minimum set of applications if you have a boot problem by holding the Vol Down button. Restart by force - by pressing the Power button for 15 seconds. If immediately after the disappearance of the picture to hold Vol Down, the smart gets into the fastboot menu.

Everyone is talking about unlock. I need him?
There are two types of unlock:
  • unlocking the bootloader to install unofficial firmware or get root
  • network unlocking when we insert a local SIM and smart code requests
The network unlock code can be obtained free of charge from the operator (for example, forAT & T), or for a fee on the Internet / from local gurus. About the ability to unlock the bootloader is written above, the instructions inMotorola Moto Z2 Force - Firmware

If the smart connects to the operator’s network, the network unlock is NOT needed. If you are not going to change the firmware to an unofficial one, you do not need an unlock bootloader.

I heard that Smart has problems with the B7 2600, why is that?
Yes, some users from Russia are unstable with this range (message). The reason is not exactly known.Stillabout communication problems.

AT & T is not updated to Android 8
By air no. Need a SIM of the operator, connected to his network. Update manually through the LMSA program (see topicFirmware)

I want 9 android when will it be?
It is known exactly what will happen, but when it is not known.

I bought a Chinese XT1789-05, applications from the Market are buggy
Perhaps because Googleis prohibitedin China. Put the firmwarefrom here. How to put - see the topicFirmware

I heard that the top layer is peeling off ... Really?
With a neat wearing, or in a case / bumper, does not come unstuck. If you start bristling, warm slightly with a hair dryer and take off all the tools at hand (alcohol, gasoline, carburetor cleaning fluid - use with caution), hold tight and glue in return any film you like. Glass may not fit, the bottom of the screen can be "waves". There is no catastrophe with peeling off, the factory protective film that, in the presence of direct hands, simply wears outcan replace. Do not trust hands - in service / to the handyman.

How to charge?
Smart is surprisingly omnivorous, unlike the first generation, any USB charging of average power with Type-C cable is suitable. Ideal on 5V 3A. More than 15W in the process of charging is not consumed.

Smart turns off too soon, then the charge jumps from 5 to 90%, help
Try to calibrate: when turned on, press and hold the power button for 10 seconds until the phone reboots, then plug in to charge and leave to charge for several hours. Another recipe: go to fastboot, go to the item Bootloader logs and hold down the power button until the smart restarts. Both recipes are official. If the smart is 15-30% off when you start the camera, a sign of significant deterioration of the battery. Calibration is unlikely to add life, you need to change.

Little keeps NEW battery, what to do, the bodies are constantly awake, who does not sleep, help !!!
Please understandby myself, learn the basics in the relevant branches. Learn firstBetterBatteryStatsandWakeLockDetector. Ruth is not needed
F.A.Q. Purchase
How much is?
Focus on the $ 160-200 for a new, or in very good condition, if taken from the hands.

Where and how to buy?
It depends on the model, there are about 6 of them on the market. For more information, see the FAQ topic. If you want an American: payment by card, or PayPal on Motorola / Ebay / Amazon /, etc., send to the address of the intermediary. We google their sites: Euromail, Pochtoy, Boxforward, Banderolk, Shopfans (according to reviews it works with motorola.com), Shoppos, Mist, etc. International model is better to search in online stores in Germany. Chinese, respectively, in China, and the mediator is not needed.

Buy offline with hands, what to look for?
Verification procedurehere. You can simplify the task by runningMoto help.

Well, and in more detail how to buy smart on Motorola.com?
The store is American, so we register in advance on the website of an intermediary working with the USA and make a trial purchase for a small amount. We pass onreference, we select goods, we put in a basket (on some groups of goods restriction on quantity), we go for payment, we enter information which was given by the intermediary into address lines. Payment by credit card or PayPal. There is no guarantee that the store will accept your card. Try it. If the payment has passed, a confirmation will immediately come to the e-mail and after 1-2 hours you can track the dispatch using the order number. Want to buy more? Fill the basket again. If you complain about the address, change the intermediary. The inscription out of stock means that at the moment the product is not available. Check in at another time.

Recommended on Ali store, is it worth it to take?
Any online purchase carries the risk of not getting what you ordered, or not in working order. Make sure you can return the parcel if you have problems with the received. It is better to ask about a specific online site here:Club lovers overseas shopping.


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* cosmopic$ 140. But he did not take it.
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Tobish if I have charging from x force 25 watts, z2 force it is better not to torment her? Or will the body take as much as he needs and do not bathe in looking for a 15-watt charge?


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JUros87 @ 03/13/19, 18:11*
Tobish if I have a charge from x force 25 watts

You will get no more than 5v x 1.6A = 8W and this is the maximum, even up to 2A it will not finish


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* Reader79,

And if it is even easier) to charge and not to bathe or find orig. charging for z2forse?


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Maybe someone knows how to put the Ukrainian language?
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System: language and input

So I want to say: "You're a damn genius!" : D
I would not have believed if it were not for the post above that in 2 * 19 install locale such a problem ...


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* alshum2,
and what is your phone version? I have a t-mob when I inserted a sim card in the initial configuration, he himself booted up in Ukrainian
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charge and do not bathe or find orig. charging for z2forse?

Do not need the original. Subju is omnivorous. Roughly speaking, it is possible to charge from two wires with five volts between them and to close the data-conclusions ... which can not be reached ... Better ready charging: D

* dimasig,
Right. After a factory reset, the smart looks in the MCC / MNC SIM entry and exposes the language according to the region. The widest local support is probably at -6, but has seen a rather rare language in one of the Americans. Or this language was a customizer, but there is no main one. Check in the evening, interesting.

UPD:Ukrainian is everywhere, full translation, you only need to pull through MoreLocale.

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After updating the camera to the camera Moto2, no one crashes?


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* JUros87It was rolled back to stock.
It began after the last update in the market, before that everything worked out. :(
Sorry, I liked the camera.

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p. 13, 260 message Z2 Force universal debload one click. I rolled stock 8.0. On the sprint and in the fastboot, I launched a program that did not care about the operator programs. As a result, a clean device without garbage. Why not put a hat?
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First, the concept of garbage is different for different people. Second, page numbersavagemessiahzine.comit is useless to indicate, everyone has a differently configured forum. Give us a link.

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Hello to all
Who has a specific and complete list of programs that can be removed from ATT?
Perhaps it is necessary to highlight such information in the header?
Thank.


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* S5610_best, by name can be found. All the same, this thing does not work if you put a custom rekarer and Magik. It goes into a cyclic reboot, and why is it so I xs, it makes mistakes. The only thing I did not do before the root was a reset to the factory ones, but then they can also restore these oem applications? And so, the last stock for today with root and configured nfc with privat 24 patched. Sprint device
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Who has a specific and complete list of programs that can be removed from ATT?

Too individually. You can delete everything.

Well, how to remove ... Rather, block or disable. Look for the Z2 Force ADB Manager in the header, install App Inspector, decide what to disable, then editstart.bat , removing commenting lines. A moderately reasonable list is in the menu (figure 5). The update service has not been disabled, OTA should be taken during a manual check. Team pm uninstall not used, rollback is difficult, breaks dependencies between related applications or services. In general, create, if you have time)

* stileman,
Oh, yes, I remember. Corrected the post of the author. If it worked on 7, on 8 it definitely does not. Do not use.

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Language support in American models is complete, you only need to pull through the locale. Added prog Set Language to Z2 Force ADB Manager script.

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Tell me the detachment of the upper layer is not so noticeable on the phone in white? Is it better to buy white or black?
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Hello.
Tried to get
Unlock att. In response, a letter came with the content:
Looks like this device is still under contract.
You can unlock:
Go to myAT & T to review your contract. Or, call 800.331.0500 or 611 from your mobile phone if you are ready to pay now.
Tel. new with motorola.com for $ 129.
What do they want from me? Thank.
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* razenkov78,
They do not want anything. Try again, changing the name, box, etc. When tired, to Serge (search by topic, "unlock").


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