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Those. specifications
The main thing about the model

Body: 7000 series aluminum frame and brushed metal backside. Super Black, Fine Gold, Lunar Gray (T-Mobile exclusive)
Screen: 5.5 "QHD P-OLED display with ShatterShield (plastic lens instead of glass)
OS: Android 7.1.1 Nougat with Moto Enhancements (Moto Blur), up to Android 9.0 Pie
Chipset: Qualcomm Snapdragon 835, 10nm: octa-core CPU (4 - 2.35 GHz Kryo cores & 4 - 1.9 GHz Kryo cores) Adreno 540 GPU
Memory: 4 / 6GB of RAM, 64 / 128GB of storage, microSD expandable nanoSIM tray
Camera: Dual 12MP, f / 2.0, laser & PDAF, dual-tone LED flash, 1.25 µm pixel size
Secondary camera: 5MP fixed focus with f / 2.2 and dual-tone (dual) LED flash
Video: 4K video @ 30fps, 1080p @ 60fps, 1080 @ 30fps
Connectivity: nanoSIM (dualSIM available); Qualcomm X16 model capable of Gigabit LTE; dual-band Wi-Fi ac; Bluetooth 4.2 (5.0 support on Oreo), USB-C
Battery: Integrated 2730 mAh battery
Misc: NFC, Fingerprint sensor, MotoMod interface (backward compatible with 1.0)

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F.A.Q.
What is my model?
The exact model, as well as IMEI, serial number and production date, you can find out by going to Fastboot>Barcodes. If instead of the model (XT ****) some zeros, ask in the subject. Also there is an inscription at the power connector. There are seven models in total. Differ only in network frequencies, network status, bootloader status, memory size and color
  • Verizon (XT1789-01). 4G LTE B1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,13,17,20,25,26,28,66 network. CDMA BC0.1. UMTS / HSPA + B1,2,5,8. Unlock network: unlocked initially. Unlocking the bootloader: not possible. Number of SIM: 1. Color: black / gold. Memory 4 / 64Gb.

  • US Cellular (XT1789-02). 4G LTE B1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,13,17,20,25,26,28,66 network. CDMA BC0.1. UMTS / HSPA + B1,2,5,8. Unlock network: unlocked initially. Unlocking the bootloader: yes, for free. No. of SIM: 1, hacking 2. Color: black. Memory 4 / 64Gb.

  • Sprint (XT1789-03). 4G LTE B1,2,3,4,5,8,12,13,17,20,25,26,41 network. CDMA BC0,1,10. UMTS / HSPA + B1,2,4,5,8. Unlock Network: Free. Unlocking the bootloader: yes, for free. No. of SIM: 1, hacking 2. Color: black / gold. Memory 4 / 64Gb.

  • AT & T (XT1789-04). 4G LTE network B1,2,3,4,5,7,8,8,12,17,20,25,26,28,29,30,38,40,41-Japan & China, 66,252,255. No CDMA. UMTS / HSPA + B1,2,4,5,8. Unlocking the network: usually for a fee. Unlocking the bootloader: not possible. Number of SIM: 1. Color: black / gold. Memory 4 / 64Gb.

  • T-Mobile (XT1789-04). 4G LTE network B1,2,3,4,5,7,8,8,12,17,20,25,26,28,29,30,38,40,41-Japan & China, 66,252,255. No CDMA. UMTS / HSPA + B1,2,4,5,8. Unlocking the network: usually for a fee. Unlocking the bootloader: yes, for free. No. of SIM: 1, burglary 2. Color: silver. Memory 4 / 64Gb.

  • China, LatAm (XT1789-05). 4G LTE B1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,17,18,19,20,26,28 network. No CDMA. UMTS / HSPA + (?). Unlock network: unlocked initially. Unlocking the bootloader: yes, for free. Number of SIM: 1 or 2. Color: gold. Memory 4 / 64Gb (LatAm comes with 6Gb).

  • Global, Retail (XT1789-06). 4G LTE B1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,17,18,19,20,26,28,34,38,39,40,41,46 network. No CDMA. UMTS / HSPA + B1,2,4,5,8,19. Unlock network: unlocked initially. Unlocking the bootloader: yes, for free. Number of SIM: 1 or 2. Color: black. Memory 6 / 64Gb.
Note: hacking allows you to use a second SIM, with some reservations. For details, see the topic.Firmware

How to get into the "fastboot", what is it?
Fastboot- pre-boot menu, controlled by volume and power buttons, as well as a mode for performingteams. Enter it like this:
  • when the phone is turned off, hold down the Power and Vol Down buttons for 2-3 seconds, release.
  • turn off or restart the phone with the cable connected to the charging or computer, after holding Vol Down.
  • execute the commandadb reboot-bootloader . There should be drivers, adb itself, access allowed, etc.
Being in fastboot, you can get detailed information about the phone by running the command fastboot getvar all (Requires computer connection, driver, and adb + fastboot package).

And the "recovery"?
Recovery is a pre-boot environment for servicing Android, there are two types -officialand informal (usuallyTWRP). Functions: work with the file system, applying updates. How to get: from the fastboot mode we enter the Recovery item, we see the robot, hold down the Power, then a short press on Volume Up, release both buttons. Next menu, move the volume buttons, confirm with the Power button. For example, you can completely reset the smart to factory settings (wipe data / factory reset).

Remind, please, how to make a screenshot? And safe mode at the same time.
The screenshot is made by simultaneously pressing the Power + Vol Down buttons, and you can boot up with a minimum set of applications if you have a boot problem by holding the Vol Down button. Restart by force - by pressing the Power button for 15 seconds. If immediately after the disappearance of the picture to hold Vol Down, the smart gets into the fastboot menu.

Everyone is talking about unlock. I need him?
There are two types of unlock:
  • unlocking the bootloader to install unofficial firmware or get root
  • network unlocking when we insert a local SIM and smart code requests
The network unlock code can be obtained free of charge from the operator (for example, forAT & T), or for a fee on the Internet / from local gurus. About the ability to unlock the bootloader is written above, the instructions inMotorola Moto Z2 Force - Firmware

If the smart connects to the operator’s network, the network unlock is NOT needed. If you are not going to change the firmware to an unofficial one, you do not need an unlock bootloader.

I heard that Smart has problems with the B7 2600, why is that?
Yes, some users from Russia are unstable with this range (message). The reason is not exactly known.Stillabout communication problems.

AT & T is not updated to Android 8
By air no. Need a SIM of the operator, connected to his network. Update manually through the LMSA program (see topicFirmware)

I want 9 android when will it be?
It is known exactly what will happen, but when it is not known.

I bought a Chinese XT1789-05, applications from the Market are buggy
Perhaps because Googleis prohibitedin China. Put the firmwarefrom here. How to put - see the topicFirmware

I heard that the top layer is peeling off ... Really?
With a neat wearing, or in a case / bumper, does not come unstuck. If you start bristling, warm slightly with a hair dryer and take off all the tools at hand (alcohol, gasoline, carburetor cleaning fluid - use with caution), hold tight and glue in return any film you like. Glass may not fit, the bottom of the screen can be "waves". There is no catastrophe with peeling off, the factory protective film that, in the presence of direct hands, simply wears outcan replace. Do not trust hands - in service / to the handyman.

How to charge?
Smart is surprisingly omnivorous, unlike the first generation, any USB charging of average power with Type-C cable is suitable. Ideal on 5V 3A. More than 15W in the process of charging is not consumed.

Smart turns off too soon, then the charge jumps from 5 to 90%, help
Try to calibrate: when turned on, press and hold the power button for 10 seconds until the phone reboots, then plug in to charge and leave to charge for several hours. Another recipe: go to fastboot, go to the item Bootloader logs and hold down the power button until the smart restarts. Both recipes are official. If the smart is 15-30% off when you start the camera, a sign of significant deterioration of the battery. Calibration is unlikely to add life, you need to change.

Little keeps NEW battery, what to do, the bodies are constantly awake, who does not sleep, help !!!
Please understandby myself, learn the basics in the relevant branches. Learn firstBetterBatteryStatsandWakeLockDetector. Ruth is not needed
F.A.Q. Purchase
How much is?
Focus on the $ 160-200 for a new, or in very good condition, if taken from the hands.

Where and how to buy?
It depends on the model, there are about 6 of them on the market. For more information, see the FAQ topic. If you want an American: payment by card, or PayPal on Motorola / Ebay / Amazon /, etc., send to the address of the intermediary. We google their sites: Euromail, Pochtoy, Boxforward, Banderolk, Shopfans (according to reviews it works with motorola.com), Shoppos, Mist, etc. International model is better to search in online stores in Germany. Chinese, respectively, in China, and the mediator is not needed.

Buy offline with hands, what to look for?
Verification procedurehere. You can simplify the task by runningMoto help.

Well, and in more detail how to buy smart on Motorola.com?
The store is American, so we register in advance on the website of an intermediary working with the USA and make a trial purchase for a small amount. We pass onreference, we select goods, we put in a basket (on some groups of goods restriction on quantity), we go for payment, we enter information which was given by the intermediary into lines of the address. Payment by credit card or PayPal. There is no guarantee that the store will accept your card. Try it. If the payment has passed, a confirmation will immediately come to the e-mail and after 1-2 hours you can track the dispatch using the order number. Want to buy more? Fill the basket again. If you complain about the address, change the intermediary. The inscription out of stock means that at the moment the product is not available. Check in at another time.

Recommended on Ali store, is it worth it to take?
Any online purchase carries the risk of not getting what you ordered, or not in working order. Make sure you can return the parcel if you have problems with the received. It is better to ask about a specific online site here:Club lovers overseas shopping.


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They cut all the charms of the first series, the battery became smaller, there were three microphones, one speaker, but the case is thin from Lenovo.


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* Artperov,

Well, if you live in the US, everything can and does, but look at the situation from a different angle. In Europe and around there was a device with a battery 2600 and a conventional screen, it became +100 mAh and with unbreakable.


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* mx7,
In Europe, with no choice or glass in 2016 or plastic in 2017: D Well, what else is Z2 play at the level this year.
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* ss70, I haven’t yet felt the new screen and I can’t say anything for it, we’re waiting for the coming week.


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Apparently, the pre-order showed that the guys miscalculated, and now the phone costs $ 80 less.
http: //www.androidauth...-moto-z2-force-791035/


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The Z² Force screen scratches easier than the Z Force. Probably used other materials.
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I got my device, according to the tradition, not enough time as luck would have it, but briefly about what they wrote here:

The screen can not be scratched with a fingernail (tried for 5 minutes);
On networks, the device is simply a beast that squeezes all the juice out of any type of compound;
It works just very fast (I have 6/64);


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Dvuhsimochnik or not? And another question - does the camera have an optical zoom (x2 button in the camera)?

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* Kotspecifically this is not and this is sadness.


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* mx7,
And the zoom in the camera?


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* Kotthere is another setup from BW and a regular module, respectively, the additional modes are BW and Ala portrait or SLR.


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* mx7, yes, all the setup from the BW and the usual module. Pity there is no zoom


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* KotWell, here is the question, I have a taste of hasseblad that covers it, and zoom lenses are still suitable only for bright conditions.

This year there will be another type of setup with a "width".

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I got my device, according to tradition, there is little time

And you can ask for examples of photos and videos?
I wonder how the camera works without OIS. Also interesting as a camera, in comparison with last year's Z Force.


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* _Scrambler_, I have our version of the Z1 main device, that's what made a quick run around the apartment with them two.

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More photos on the Z2 plan, just the weekend soon.


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For those who doubt that the display of the Z force g ... but.
https: //androidinsider...ogo-moto-z2-force.html
He scratches his fingernail.


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He scratches his nail


Well, at least you have a little topic read:

Motorola Moto Z Force 2th Gen (Post mx7 # 63715191)


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For those who doubt that the display of the Z force g ... but.https: //androidinsider...ogo-moto-z2-force.html
He scratches his fingernail.


There is no nail, but the iron end of the lighter with considerable effort could, and that is not total, but so slightly. There are no scratches from 10 test drops too.


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* mx7Yes, they do not appear from falls, with a fool bought. Droid Turbo 2 , with the same display, scratches appear from everything, even if you treat it with extra care, scratches still appear, just like on a fingerprint scanner on just Z. Once they appeared.

It's amazing why the stupid, brainless Lenovoies, did not think of making this protective layer glass ???? Cracked, threw a new and pasted. Now they can say that this is possible, yes, but the glass doesn’t crack as often as it scratches. Scratches appear after a week, if it is neat, small, but appear. In jeans put and hello, everything is already worn.
And this film costs under $ 40, plus half delivery for a total of $ 60!
I changed three of them ...

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* doctorfresh, first Z since month 4, no scratches on the scanner.

Probably, the fact is that you do not fully understand the physics of the impact and this decision.


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