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Dji Phantom 3 SE - discussion

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Device description
The drone Phantom 3 SE was born, costing only $ 430 (in China). It should be noted that the Phantom 3 Advanced and Phantom 3 Professional will no longer be released: only the Phantom 3 Standard and the new Phantom 3 SE will remain on the production line. What makes the new product stand out from its predecessors, and did the modernization really make the drone two steps higher than the standard version of the Phantom 3 drone?
UAV DJI Phantom 3 performed by “SE” got the opportunity to shoot video in 4K instead of the previous 2.7K (comparison with Phantom 3 Standard). The device boasts an improved mode of online broadcast via Wi-Fi to a mobile gadget, which allows real-time monitoring with a resolution of 720p at 30 fps for everything that happens. The maximum flight range has also undergone significant changes. If in the same Phantom 3 Advanced it was about 2 km, while the model Phantom 3 Standard was limited to 1 km, then the Phantom 3 SE model can move away by about 4 km.

Key features:
- The latest entry-level quadcopter and the most economical option in the Phantom 3 Series, comparable to the Phantom 3 Professional
- Able to offer you an exciting and stable flight at a speed of 57 km / h even with strong winds
- The range of the remote - 4 km. Enhanced WiFi signal for 4 km image transmission
- Equipped with a 12-megapixel FOV camera with a resolution of 94 degrees for shooting 4K UHD videos and extremely sharp photos
- Vision positioning system, designed to improve the accuracy of pointing in the room in addition to the GPS system
- Intelligent flight features such as POI, Home lock, Course Lock, Auto return

Device characteristics
Specifications:
Quadcopter
Weight: 1236 g (including battery and propellers)
Diagonal: 350 mm (propellers are excluded)
Maximum. Lifting speed: 5 m / s
Maximum. Descent speed: 3 m / s
Maximum. Horizontal speed: 16 m / s
Maximum. Rise ceiling above sea level: 6000m
Maximum. Flight time: approx. 25 minutes
Operating temperature range: 10 - 40 ° C
Satellite positioning system: GPS, Glonass
Precision hovering range: vertical: +/- 0.1 m (with Vision positioning); + / - 0.5 m (with GPS positioning); Horizontal: +/- 1.5 m

Suspension:
Stabilization: 3-axis (step, roll, yaw)
Adjustable range: step: from -90 to 30 degrees

Transmitter
Operating frequency: 2.4 GHz
Maximum. Transmission Range: FCC: 4000m (unobstructed, free from interference)
Operating temperature range: 0 - 40 ° C
Battery: 18,650 lithium-ion 2600mAh
Mobile device holder: for tablets and smartphones

Intelligent flight battery
Capacity: 4480 mA / h
Voltage: 15.2 V
Battery Type: LiPo 4S
Energy: 68 Wh
Net Weight: 365g
Charging temperature: 5 - 40 ° C
Maximum. Charging power: 100 W

Camera
Sensor: 1 / 2.3 inch CMOS, effective pixels: 12.0MP
Lens: FOV with 94 degrees, 20 mm (35 mm equivalent format) f / 2.8 focus at infinity
ISO range: 100 - 3200 (video), 100 - 1600 (photo)
Electronic shutter speed: 8 - 1/8000 sec.
Image size: 4000 x 3000
Photographing: single shot, continuous shooting: 3/5/7 frames; Auto Exposure Bracketing (AEB): 3/5 frames per frame at 0.7 EV Bias; Time interval
Video recording modes: UHD: 4096 x 2160P 24 / 25fps; 2.7K: 2704 x 1520P 24/25/30 frames per second; FHD: 1920x1080p 24/25/30/48/50 / 60fps; HD: 1280 x 720P 24/25/30/48/50 / 60fps
Max. video bitrate: 60 Mbps
Supported file systems: FAT32 / exFAT
Photo: JPEG, DNG (RAW)
Video: MP4, MOV (MPEG-4 AVC / H2.64)
Supported SD card: micro SD up to 64 GB, class 10 or UHS-1
Operating temperature range: 0 - 40 ° C

Positioning without GPS
Vision system: downward sonar and camera system (does not see objects in front!)
Speed ​​range: 8 m / s or less (2 m above the ground)
Height range: 30 - 300 cm
Working range: 50 - 300 cm
Operating conditions: surface with a clear pattern and sufficient lighting (more than 15 lux)

View apps / Live
Mobile application: DJI GO
Frequency Live View: 2.4 GHz ISM
Online quality video broadcast on a smartphone: 720P 30fps
Delay: 220 ms (depending on conditions and mobile device)
Operating system required: iOS 8.0 or later, Android 4.1.2 or later
Platform Compatibility
Android, iOS

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Post has been editedZlisten - 12.06.19, 14:29
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The drone is excellent - no doubt!
1) In a city where the ether is "polluted" (around 10-15 points of vaifa'ah are visible around me) - the connection of 50-100 m is unstable, it breaks / is restored. But if in a clean field - no problem. I didn’t try for 4 km (it’s somehow scary when I’m lost sight of it), 2 km - the signal is all the “sticks” and the picture is broadcast. By the way, the Chinese are selling ARGTek amplified antennas - if anyone used, please unsubscribe.
2) The wind holds well, hangs stably, sees 12-18 satellites, the return function works without problems, just in case, check the return height in the program>30 m (I changed due to inexperience and almost ran into trees).
3) With a dynamic change in the picture (sharp turns, yaw), the broadcast gives a delay of 2-3 seconds. In smooth mode, the delay is also 0.5-1 sec, but not critical. I think this is due to the work of the video processor. To record 4K, you need a fast flash drive (otherwise it will be with lags), but the FullHD-60k record was very impressive.
4) The new battery holds about 20 minutes of flight, it charges for 2 hours. There are non-originals (at half price), I bribed myself, I will test.
5) Lightened his drone, tore off all the stickers - now it’s as white as “4”. By the way, the name SE is Standard Enhanced
Good luck!
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Tche34 @ 07/06/17, 08:57*
He lightened his drone, tore off all the stickers

Now, without stickers, flies about 40 minutes? :-D
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* shakur14, I took it with Ali for 35k, but it does not fly further than 500m .. otherwise everything is gorgeous. What is your flight range?
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Kurtsev87 @ 07/08/17, 11:17*
further than 500m does not fly ..

Turn off the newbie mode in the app.
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* Andybig, beginner mode is disabled, this is the point
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So also disable the checkmark "Range Limit" ("Distance limit", it seems).
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Malexion @ 07/06/17, 09:43*
Greetings to all!
I am also the owner of this model. I share with you my first video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KSjgRBMqHc

I use it in Belarus.
Android device: Xiaomi Mi5 64gb


Risky at the end)

By the way, where is the home button on the remote control on this drone?
Today I decided to fly for the first time, the program in Russian crashed and the drone almost flew away))) I’m not used to controlling it yet ...

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Mazejka @ 07/08/17, 23:12*
By the way, where is the home button on the remote control on this drone?

There you need to somehow click the switch somehow (it seems to the left) :) Download the Russian manual from Standart, everything is exactly the same there.

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AndyBig @ 07/09/17, 00:34*
There you need to somehow click a switch (it seems left)

Yeah, ATP, the instruction from the standard is similar and the consoles too) Left home, click a few times, and right hand take control)

Today I flew, I noticed such a phenomenon, when a copter takes off a meter, it takes off to the side, what is the reason? Calibrated several times, all the same ... Maybe take-off occurs on a not quite flat surface ...

And still taking off at 140 m I saw a warning about a weak signal ...

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What kind of memory card should I buy so that there are no jerks in the video?
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The class is not less than 10th, UHS-1 or, better, UHS-3 :) Well, the manufacturer of some more or less normal. Personally, I went broke into two Samsung UHS-3 cards (recording up to 90 MB / s) of 32 GB :) Busting, of course, but it's better to override and be sure :)
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Finally, I took my candy wrapper from delivery today :)
I haven’t flown yet, I just flew up a couple of times right in the office, but at least the video on my phone runs smoothly and without brakes, it’s already good :)
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I’m temporarily taking a 64 GB car DVR, it’s not very convenient to constantly remove it, so I think if you purchase 16 GB, will it be enough ?, but 32 is a little expensive, although you can.

AndyBig @ 07/12/17, 11:05*
Class not less than 10th, UHS-1 or, better, UHS-3

UHS-3 has not yet been seen, it will be necessary to search)

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Finally, I took my candy wrapper from delivery today

Congratulations! ) The most exciting moment, that came candy wrapper, not bricks)))

After he asked to flash, he began to fly further and take off, he takes 500 meters in height, but loses his signal and asks to go home all the time. On YouTube they showed 3 km, how is it? I'm afraid to let it out so far, in the field the signal loses ...

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Mazejka @ 07/12/17, 20:56*
16 GB, will it be enough?

You can roughly estimate: the maximum bitrate is 60 Mb / s - approximately 7.5 MB / s, 16000 / 7.5 / 60 = 35.5 minutes will fit on 16 GB. But this is at the maximum bitrate, as 4K, at a lower resolution, the bitrate is less, and, accordingly, it will fit more time. I proceeded from this - I have at least an hour of recording on the card enough, why save more there. Better two or three smaller cards than one large :)
Mazejka @ 07/12/17, 20:56*
UHS-3 has not yet been seen, it will be necessary to search)

Dear they, infection ...
Mazejka @ 07/12/17, 20:56*
Congratulations! ) The most exciting moment, that came candy wrapper, not bricks)))

Honestly, when they brought out the box to me, I thought that if they sent me a phantom, now the bricks are already in the box. The box was very frightening:
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But everything worked out, the strongest jam occurred just on the only side with which nothing was in the box :) On the other three sides are the appa, propellers, charging.

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After he asked to flash, he began to fly further and take off, he takes 500 meters in height, but loses his signal and asks to go home all the time. On YouTube they showed 3 km, how is it? I'm afraid to let it out so far, in the field the signal loses ...

He also asked me to flash, and the copter itself and the non-original battery, but since I do not have a memory card with me now, he could not flash without it :)
And they fly far on it, there’s more than one video about it, and without any additional adaptations such as reflectors on antennas, etc.

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* kurtsev87,
range problem is complex. Basically, the range depends on external conditions - obstacles, air pollution, weather conditions, but can walk within small limits and from one instance to another. And it can depend on the operator - how much he holds the antennas correctly in relation to the copter.
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* kurtsev87, * kurtsev87,
Maybe you mean not a range but a maximum height of 500 meters. I flew for 2 kilometers, the flight is normal.


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* shakur14, there is no range, not height, the picture begins to fall at 380-440m, the loss of the video link and return home
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* kurtsev87,
is the latest firmware? I have already seen reviews that the range is noticeably growing after flashing to the latest version.
Where are you flying? If in a city / town or near some industrial facilities, then the range can easily reach 200 meters.
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* Andybig, the latest firmware, updated on wifi, flew out of town in the field

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