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Windows 10 [ 678 ] ** [39,03%]
Windows 8-8.1 [ 136 ] ** [7,83%]
Windows 7-Vista [ 762 ] ** [43,87%]
Windows XP and earlier [ 131 ] ** [7,54%]
I do not use Windows [ 30 ] ** [1,73%]
Total votes: 1737
 



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Post has been editedAndrewP_1 - 30.08.18, 11:52



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Alientared @ 07.10.17, 18:31*
Windows 7 - it is the worst thing that has only been in history. This bestiality, on which you can not move it was even in the 2009-2012 year. Not that it is now.

Oy-yoy-yoy-yoy !!! : D
What I discovered masterpiece bysuperGURU savagemessiahzine.comco 100000 messaging and with a reputation for 30,000!
I hear and obey! He snapped to Smirrrno! : Rofl:

P.S. But seriously, Mr.Alientared Pass his mistress Satya - to less boring and more Nudel chores involved. : Yes2:
(By the way, uh ... uh .. Mr.Alientared I agree - as something not to the man face unquestioningly obey the orders of a woman, even if such a high-level, as Mrs. Satya Nadella). : D
And here we do see, what to put on the desktop. It is a pity that there is no normal Win XP 64-bit version, and I would sit on it! : D
P.S. Although Ms. Satya, which is constantly, all the time and tediousness nudit, nevertheless managed to achieve something for themselves practical Alas, support Win XP autumn of 2017 has stopped, even the ubiquitous FireFox ... Alas ... There's really really - Amen .. .

Post has been editedmkudritsky - 19.11.17, 10:57



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* mkudritsky yes, we remember your daughter who tried to download movies in .exe format: D
In your place I would have checked her computer at least twice a day. I am sure you will be surprised Vin10 speed operation, which is better than ever clumsy VIN7.



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mkudritsky @ 19.11.17, 10:45*
Ms. Satya Nadella

However, Mr.
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Or do you have have more accurate information? : Blush:



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Trumpo , Alex Klein Gentlemen!
I'm still on the comments to the rollers Eldar Murtazin realized that ardent fans vyni very aggressive and sovereshnno not perceive a sense of humor! : D

Ah, how would you both at once, respond, and even in the classical style?
I'll try!
M. Bormann (mkudritsky ): "Ernst ( Alex Klein ), General Wolff ( Satya Nadella ) Was a traitor ... "
(Well, of course! Close Project W10M! Now MS nothing am not!)
E. Kaltenbrunner: "It can not be !!! I can not believe this experience in the SS (!MS ) - since the founding of the organization ": D!
M. Broman: "Ernst, I ever been wrong?"
E. Kaltenbrunner: "No ... you were never wrong ..."
Kaltenbrunner silently, thoughtfully out of the office ...
Before leaving:
M. Bormann: "Ernst, just ask you - nothing about our meeting did not speak to the Reichsfuehrer (Trumpo ) - it is too vulnerable heart "!
: D
P.S. The post came to a head based on the classic film! :)

Post has been editedmkudritsky - 19.11.17, 12:11



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mkudritsky @ 19.11.17, 12:06*
M. Bormann (mkudritsky): "Ernst (Alex Klein), General Wolff (Satya Nadella) was a traitor ..."
(Well, of course! Close Project W10M! Now MS nothing am not!)

W10M in considering its negligible share - for several years now doomed idea. MS have only one chance to rise in this market - the idea to promote a smartphone with a desktop version of the W10. At least in order to: 1) to play a normal game, rather than the current mobile trash; and 2) to connect your smartphone to monitor and run on a standard PC. But here it seems it all depends from Intel, but this office on the part of the smartphone merged. Nominally there W10 ARM emulator x86, but IMHO it is a crutch without a future. If not tupila Intel (productive chips for smartphones it simply can not afford), then the W10 in the smartphone market, there were at least a theoretical perspective.



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* Nick Nikals, welcome back! Guide been?



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* Alex Klein
Thanks: thank_you: Oh, temporarily retrained from the Chukchi Chukchi-writer-reader :) But mostly in other technical forums: secret:



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Nick Nikals @ 19/11/17, 17:43*
W10M in considering its negligible share - for several years now doomed idea.

You can continue to release only the flagships.
And even the new leader can be developed with the top-end features, and for $ 1000 - to take niche W10M elite.
And let his very small batches.

The goal - to avoid strong downtime between January 2016 and to start production of smartphones on Win 10 for ARM64.
And with January 2016 the people had already thoroughly forget such a player in the mobile market as MS.

Nick Nikals @ 19/11/17, 17:43*
MS have only one chance to rise in this market - the idea to promote a smartphone with a desktop version of the W10. At least in order to: 1) to play a normal game, rather than the current mobile trash

The case for small - to create almost nezhruschy energy Nvidia 1090 chip for smartphones. And the size of the entire video must be a match head, and not with the suitcase, as it is now.

If there is not such a chip, the smartphone with Win 10 for ARM64 even Adrene you can play only in the hits of the 90s ...

Post has been editedmkudritsky - 20.11.17, 05:59



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mkudritsky @ 20.11.17, 05:58*
You can continue to release only the flagships.
And even the new leader can be developed with the top-end features, and for $ 1000 - to take niche W10M elite.
And let his very small batches.

The goal - to avoid strong downtime between January 2016 and to start production of smartphones on Win 10 for ARM64.
And with January 2016 the people had already thoroughly forget such a player in the mobile market as MS.

And why do we need these flagships? In such a market share (less interest) software for W10M write and update simply unprofitable, so that even perfect in hardware terms of smart phones will be more functionally defective in comparison to Android and iPhone. Buying them will be in small amounts, respectively, will not pay development costs.

mkudritsky @ 20.11.17, 05:58*
The case for small - to create almost nezhruschy energy Nvidia 1090 chip for smartphones. And the size of the entire video must be a match head, and not with the suitcase, as it is now.

If there is not such a chip, the smartphone with Win 10 for ARM64 even Adrene you can play only in the hits of the 90s ...

Mobile GTX 1080 breaks laptop one centimeter thick. But such a performance in the smartphone is not necessary - enough level Xbox 360 Games / PS 3, and they can theoretically run on any of the A11 Bionic iPhone 8. It would be the same, the performance and power consumption, Intel chip, the MS could make their smartphone platform for these games. This will be a pronounced advantage over Android and iOS. Obviously, this it would have to invest in their adaptation to the mobile platform, but I believe such a rich firm would risk another billion-dollars. And there are already users decide - we need them on a smartphone desktop previous generation games or not.



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Windows 10
Personally used Windows XP / 7 / 8.1 / 10, and Windows 10 is the least gemoroynnaya and quite quickly, even on the hard disk, I put the carved her and be happy! : Rofl:



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Nick Nikals @ 20/11/17, 16:09*
But such a performance in the smartphone is not necessary - enough level Xbox 360 Games / PS 3, and they can theoretically run on any iPhone from the A11 Bionic 8.

Who would go to port those games? In addition, Microsoft seem to keep focused on the business (office in your pocket and that's all), rather than gamers. They would be better desktop 10 finished, and it looks like a two-axis cobbled together into one. About all sorts of "Faile updates," breaking all that is possible, I generally keep quiet. And smartphones are not soared because Microsoft used to destroy the competition, and it turned out that with Google by Apple too tough for them, it is true to the nokia yet got under distribution.



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Geralt09 @ 22.11.17, 23:03*
Who would go to port those games?

Zabesplatno - nobody. Therefore I said above:
Nick Nikals @ 20/11/17, 16:09*
Obviously, this it would have to invest in their adaptation to the mobile platform, but I believe such a rich firm would risk another billion-dollars. And there are already users decide - we need them on a smartphone desktop previous generation games or not.

For the money you can order the ports of hundreds of games from the Xbox 360 / PS3, the benefit to the management changes are necessary in addition to the interface.

Geralt09 @ 22.11.17, 23:03*
In addition, Microsoft seem to keep focused on the business (office in your pocket and that's all), rather than gamers.

I would not say - is enough to recall the Xbox and DirectX. Business office in your pocket certainly does not hurt, but it is far from the scale of ordinary consumers' market. And IMHO it can be transplanted to iOS and Android on Windows only with games.

Geralt09 @ 22.11.17, 23:03*
They would be better desktop 10 finished, and it looks like a two-axis cobbled together into one.

Not a hindrance, but in any case, the mobile platform promising desktop:
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Post has been editedAlexanderL - 25.11.17, 00:28
Reason for editing: Do not forget about the spoiler



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Nick Nikals @ 23/11/17, 16:21*
I would not say - is enough to recall the Xbox and DirectX.

I mean it was a mobile platform, from the PC and consoles is clear.
Nick Nikals @ 23/11/17, 16:21*
in any case, the mobile platform promising desktop

For Microsoft no. Because later come to their senses, the competitors are too strong for a long time and develop, to do something they do not have a very difficult game and there is unlikely to be saved. A new laptop and desktop disappear even very long, and Microsoft can do a good OS for them (XP, 7, 8.1, 10ltsb), yes and no competition. Just 10 them suffered somewhere not there.



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Geralt09 @ 25.11.17, 15:20*
Just 10 them suffered somewhere not there.

They have long been on the desktop has "somewhere not there."
Started with Windows Vista fragments of rock, continued on all Windows 8 and Windows 10.
The only normal OS after Win XP - Windows 7 is.

And by the way, Windows 7, too, was not. Just standing in front of MS purpose - to kill her the same OS Win XP. A kill Win XP could only really good OS.
That's the first time in the history of MS and there was a more recent operating system, which proved to be faster and more stable than its predecessor Win XP on the same even without the fresh gland.
And more of these errors: D in MS is not allowed ...

And further.
Purely on the software for the desktop to survive it is becoming harder and harder.
The fact that there is progress ended with the achievement of the quantum limit the clock speed "of about 3.4GHz."
Another all-lasted a little poagonizirovalo on multi-core processors.

And now it all!
Desktop and OS / Office for them to become a "washing machine" - updated once in 15-25 years!
Smartphones also in the high-end processors (800 Snap-e, Eskimos, Killeen) came to the quantum limit in frequency.
But smartphones dropped something (screen break it), Utopia, the battery dies, you simply wipe and tired - in other words, change is much more common than washing machines and microwave ovens!
So we are waiting with MS by introducing paid subscriptions for updates Windows / Office, and ... mass migration of the population of the Earth on the Linux and Libre-Open Office! : D

Post has been editedmkudritsky - 26.11.17, 08:51



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Guys updated on my laptop Toshiba Satellite L505-111 with Win 10, Win 10 v1501 to v1706.
By the way, the update did not go for as long as before - only 3-4 hours!

But here's the problem ...
I understand that this Toshiba is not too modern (Intel Core 2 Duo T6600 2x2.2Ghz, RAM 4Gb, Video ATI Radeon Mobility HD 4650, HDD SataII 500Gb), but after the upgrade screen with 1366x768 suddenly become stretched to 1024x768.
All stretched as in the Kingdom of crooked mirrors! : D

I began to search the Internet, believing that I was not the first time such a happy one.
And I found an official response from most MS. Briefly it is this: put a different driver for 1366x768.
For the driver went to the AMD / ATI's website and found that the latest driver here - only for Win 8. Catalist 13.1.
I choose the method of installation "by hand".
Result: lumiere "Driver Installation ..." has 1.5 hours of spinning.
Herculean task for Win 10 - replace the driver!
And when this lumiere of the best OS over the world ?! I do not want to press the Reset!

P.S. Once again I draw attention - with drivers for Win 10 v1501 - absolutely no problems! Is v1706 so meticulously processed, it was necessary to change the driver 10-year-old from producer ?!

//-----------

The party continues.
On Reset did not reap. Just restart the notebook.
After the reboot, the old driver "from the MS" ATI HD 4650 and removed only after removing the old driver - freewheeling "new" from AMD / ATI 2012 development.
The driver, as expected, is now established within 2 minutes.
And I win back my resolution of 1366x768! Hurrah!

Once everything was very sweet in MS - until you remove the old driver, not a new set.
And, most importantly, no error messages! Just infinitely lumiere "Installing drivers ..." Cool!

Post has been editedmkudritsky - 26.11.17, 12:51



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Mkudritsky @ 11.26.17, 12:18*
Is v1706 so meticulously reworked that it was necessary to change the driver 10 years ago from the manufacturer ?!
But what about the notorious compatibility with all previous versions of Windows? (actually a set of crutches)
Mkudritsky @ 11.26.17, 12:18*
but after updating the screen from 1366x768 suddenly became stretched to 1024x768.
Everything is stretched, like in the Kingdom of Crooked Mirrors

I think you are lucky.My task is to pick up my mother’s laptop. Decided on the iron, everything is fine, but. In 95% of cases, laptops come with a pre-installed windows 10. I thought, maybe the devil is not as terrible as it is painted. But no.Fail creators update 1709 calls BSOD. BSOD, Carl! In some cases, I saw here on the forum, after this event the system crashes and it is not possible to restore it normally. Last, I hope, the last time I saw a BSOD on Windows 98. Let me think. And, that's right, this is compatibility: D



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mkudritsky @ 26.11.17, 07:54*
They have long been on the desktop has "somewhere not there."
Started with Windows Vista fragments of rock, continued on all Windows 8 and Windows 10.
The only normal OS after Win XP - Windows 7 is.

Vista just came earlier than was necessary, while not all was iron that could pull her fine. Well, raw as well as all operating systems from Mike at first, then it was finished by the way, but there was a 7 and vista has been no one is not needed. That way there is another minus 10 - thanks to the "big update" its not finished never. Do not be surprised if you will some sort of windows 11 in a few years, because 10 does not become a usable because most of these updates.
Eight is better not to remember. But 8.1 is operating normally, if you put some classic shell and forget about tablet chips. But I have almost never used because of the terrible design - fat-color square windows, and that's all.
mkudritsky @ 26.11.17, 07:54*
Desktop and OS / Office for them to become a "washing machine" - updated once in 15-25 years!

Yes, he was sitting on the iron in 2012 and change not see the point, but the graphics card has replaced last year.
FoxFox4444 @ 26.11.17, 12:49*
BSOD, Carl!

At the recently revived after upgrade 2 + office computer laptop with bsodadami and dumps all kinds of drivers. Pro printers dumps do not say anything, it consistently every couple of months, even without the "Faile updates."



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Geralt09 @ 26.11.17, 18:32*
Yes, he was sitting on the iron in 2012 and change not see the point, but the graphics card has replaced last year

I myself have also come about.
Only iron more ancient! : D
The wife of a desktop - Intel Core i5-750 to mamma with P55 chipset and vidyuhi Nvidia GTS-450. It was only 4 RAM upgrade up to 8GB (DDR3, of course). I buy in my opinion in 2008!

The daughter desktop a little more modern: Intel Core i7-2600K to mamma Asus P8H61-M. 2011! Here the memory upgrade from 4 to 16 GB (DDR3) and video replaced the Nvidia 1060 3Gb.
The fact that the daughter plays in the game and need more or less gaming PC.
By the way, on both PCs have a resource in the form of SSD installation. A daughter on the PC, say 2600K freely chasing up 4.5GGts. But I do not want to drive.

By the way, WIntel this "lawlessness" is going to fight.
Ways to fight they have planned at least two:
1. To produce disposable products. Dramatically reduce the reliability to break quickly.
And then won 10-8 years ago, it was "a disgrace" according to clan - my Sony Vaio VGN-TX3XRP / B and Toshiba Satellite L505-111 still live and - a single prevention! Even the dust on the fans did not clean (although the beeches and operated very carefully).
It is a pity that these two monsters - Sony and Toshiba - have left the laptop market due to the very low margins ... and because of the tendency of a-la "washing machines".

2. Gather all there to invent SSL-5,6,7 .. etc. The main purpose - is not scientific and technological progress. The goal - to new operating systems, new games only run on the new hardware.
Since the core clock speed is no longer growing, and that's coming up with new teams WIntel group incompatible with the old iron.
But these attempts neigromanam WIntel clan - that the elephant's grain.
I'm on my Sony already 3-4 years, as Linux is easy to sit. And Toshiba also want to translate Lin. (Now, alas, I can not - the daughter of her family to travel on vacation sometimes plays games, but every year it goes to fewer games ....)

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mkudritsky @ 26.11.17, 18:53*
And Toshiba also want to translate Lin. (Now, alas, I can not - the daughter of her family to travel on vacation sometimes plays games, but every year it goes to fewer games ....)

A second system put religion does not allow? Or places are not already on the disk polugigabaytnom?

Post has been editedAlex Klein - 26.11.17, 19:14



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Laziness before I was born into this world! : D
And Sonya pokompaktnee will. Toshiba rarely turn - about once a month, mainly to charge the battery.
Although now thinking - I have there a 16GB partition in the beginning of the disk. He created it as a section only for the SWAP-File for Vyni.
Here is a thought to throw it vyni swap partition and 16GB push Linux.


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