You can continue to release only the flagships.
And even the new leader can be developed with the top-end features, and for $ 1000 - to take niche W10M elite.
And let his very small batches.

The goal - to avoid strong downtime between January 2016 and to start production of smartphones on Win 10 for ARM64.
And with January 2016 the people had already thoroughly forget such a player in the mobile market as MS.


The case for small - to create almost nezhruschy energy Nvidia 1090 chip for smartphones. And the size of the entire video must be a match head, and not with the suitcase, as it is now.

If there is not such a chip, the smartphone with Win 10 for ARM64 even Adrene you can play only in the hits of the 90s ...

Post has been editedmkudritsky - 20.11.17, 05:59

And why do we need these flagships? In such a market share (less interest) software for W10M write and update simply unprofitable, so that even perfect in hardware terms of smart phones will be more functionally defective in comparison to Android and iPhone. Buying them will be in small amounts, respectively, will not pay development costs.


Mobile GTX 1080 breaks laptop one centimeter thick. But such a performance in the smartphone is not necessary - enough level Xbox 360 Games / PS 3, and they can theoretically run on any of the A11 Bionic iPhone 8. It would be the same, the performance and power consumption, Intel chip, the MS could make their smartphone platform for these games. This will be a pronounced advantage over Android and iOS. Obviously, this it would have to invest in their adaptation to the mobile platform, but I believe such a rich firm would risk another billion-dollars. And there are already users decide - we need them on a smartphone desktop previous generation games or not.

Who would go to port those games? In addition, Microsoft seem to keep focused on the business (office in your pocket and that's all), rather than gamers. They would be better desktop 10 finished, and it looks like a two-axis cobbled together into one. About all sorts of "Faile updates," breaking all that is possible, I generally keep quiet. And smartphones are not soared because Microsoft used to destroy the competition, and it turned out that with Google by Apple too tough for them, it is true to the nokia yet got under distribution.

Zabesplatno - nobody. Therefore I said above:

For the money you can order the ports of hundreds of games from the Xbox 360 / PS3, the benefit to the management changes are necessary in addition to the interface.


I would not say - is enough to recall the Xbox and DirectX. Business office in your pocket certainly does not hurt, but it is far from the scale of ordinary consumers' market. And IMHO it can be transplanted to iOS and Android on Windows only with games.


Not a hindrance, but in any case, the mobile platform promising desktop:


Post has been editedAlexanderL - 25.11.17, 00:28

I mean it was a mobile platform, from the PC and consoles is clear.

For Microsoft no. Because later come to their senses, the competitors are too strong for a long time and develop, to do something they do not have a very difficult game and there is unlikely to be saved. A new laptop and desktop disappear even very long, and Microsoft can do a good OS for them (XP, 7, 8.1, 10ltsb), yes and no competition. Just 10 them suffered somewhere not there.

They have long been on the desktop has "somewhere not there."
Started with Windows Vista fragments of rock, continued on all Windows 8 and Windows 10.
The only normal OS after Win XP - Windows 7 is.

And by the way, Windows 7, too, was not. Just standing in front of MS purpose - to kill her the same OS Win XP. A kill Win XP could only really good OS.
That's the first time in the history of MS and there was a more recent operating system, which proved to be faster and more stable than its predecessor Win XP on the same even without the fresh gland.
And more of these errors: D in MS is not allowed ...

And further.
Purely on the software for the desktop to survive it is becoming harder and harder.
The fact that there is progress ended with the achievement of the quantum limit the clock speed "of about 3.4GHz."
Another all-lasted a little poagonizirovalo on multi-core processors.

And now it all!
Desktop and OS / Office for them to become a "washing machine" - updated once in 15-25 years!
Smartphones also in the high-end processors (800 Snap-e, Eskimos, Killeen) came to the quantum limit in frequency.
But smartphones dropped something (screen break it), Utopia, the battery dies, you simply wipe and tired - in other words, change is much more common than washing machines and microwave ovens!
So we are waiting with MS by introducing paid subscriptions for updates Windows / Office, and ... mass migration of the population of the Earth on the Linux and Libre-Open Office! : D

Post has been editedmkudritsky - 26.11.17, 08:51

Guys updated on my laptop Toshiba Satellite L505-111 with Win 10, Win 10 v1501 to v1706.
By the way, the update did not go for as long as before - only 3-4 hours!

But here's the problem ...
I understand that this Toshiba is not too modern (Intel Core 2 Duo T6600 2x2.2Ghz, RAM 4Gb, Video ATI Radeon Mobility HD 4650, HDD SataII 500Gb), but after the upgrade screen with 1366x768 suddenly become stretched to 1024x768.
All stretched as in the Kingdom of crooked mirrors! : D

I began to search the Internet, believing that I was not the first time such a happy one.
And I found an official response from most MS. Briefly it is this: put a different driver for 1366x768.
For the driver went to the AMD / ATI's website and found that the latest driver here - only for Win 8. Catalist 13.1.
I choose the method of installation "by hand".
Result: lumiere "Driver Installation ..." has 1.5 hours of spinning.
Herculean task for Win 10 - replace the driver!
And when this lumiere of the best OS over the world ?! I do not want to press the Reset!

P.S. Once again I draw attention - with drivers for Win 10 v1501 - absolutely no problems! Is v1706 so meticulously processed, it was necessary to change the driver 10-year-old from producer ?!

//-----------

The party continues.
On Reset did not reap. Just restart the notebook.
After the reboot, the old driver "from the MS" ATI HD 4650 and removed only after removing the old driver - freewheeling "new" from AMD / ATI 2012 development.
The driver, as expected, is now established within 2 minutes.
And I win back my resolution of 1366x768! Hurrah!

Once everything was very sweet in MS - until you remove the old driver, not a new set.
And, most importantly, no error messages! Just infinitely lumiere "Installing drivers ..." Cool!

Post has been editedmkudritsky - 26.11.17, 12:51

But what about the notorious compatibility with all previous versions of Windows? (actually a set of crutches)
I think you are lucky.My task is to pick up my mother’s laptop. Decided on the iron, everything is fine, but. In 95% of cases, laptops come with a pre-installed windows 10. I thought, maybe the devil is not as terrible as it is painted. But no.Fail creators update 1709 calls BSOD. BSOD, Carl! In some cases, I saw here on the forum, after this event the system crashes and it is not possible to restore it normally. Last, I hope, the last time I saw a BSOD on Windows 98. Let me think. And, that's right, this is compatibility: D

Vista just came earlier than was necessary, while not all was iron that could pull her fine. Well, raw as well as all operating systems from Mike at first, then it was finished by the way, but there was a 7 and vista has been no one is not needed. That way there is another minus 10 - thanks to the "big update" its not finished never. Do not be surprised if you will some sort of windows 11 in a few years, because 10 does not become a usable because most of these updates.
Eight is better not to remember. But 8.1 is operating normally, if you put some classic shell and forget about tablet chips. But I have almost never used because of the terrible design - fat-color square windows, and that's all.

Yes, he was sitting on the iron in 2012 and change not see the point, but the graphics card has replaced last year.

At the recently revived after upgrade 2 + office computer laptop with bsodadami and dumps all kinds of drivers. Pro printers dumps do not say anything, it consistently every couple of months, even without the "Faile updates."

I myself have also come about.
Only iron more ancient! : D
The wife of a desktop - Intel Core i5-750 to mamma with P55 chipset and vidyuhi Nvidia GTS-450. It was only 4 RAM upgrade up to 8GB (DDR3, of course). I buy in my opinion in 2008!

The daughter desktop a little more modern: Intel Core i7-2600K to mamma Asus P8H61-M. 2011! Here the memory upgrade from 4 to 16 GB (DDR3) and video replaced the Nvidia 1060 3Gb.
The fact that the daughter plays in the game and need more or less gaming PC.
By the way, on both PCs have a resource in the form of SSD installation. A daughter on the PC, say 2600K freely chasing up 4.5GGts. But I do not want to drive.

By the way, WIntel this "lawlessness" is going to fight.
Ways to fight they have planned at least two:
1. To produce disposable products. Dramatically reduce the reliability to break quickly.
And then won 10-8 years ago, it was "a disgrace" according to clan - my Sony Vaio VGN-TX3XRP / B and Toshiba Satellite L505-111 still live and - a single prevention! Even the dust on the fans did not clean (although the beeches and operated very carefully).
It is a pity that these two monsters - Sony and Toshiba - have left the laptop market due to the very low margins ... and because of the tendency of a-la "washing machines".

2. Gather all there to invent SSL-5,6,7 .. etc. The main purpose - is not scientific and technological progress. The goal - to new operating systems, new games only run on the new hardware.
Since the core clock speed is no longer growing, and that's coming up with new teams WIntel group incompatible with the old iron.
But these attempts neigromanam WIntel clan - that the elephant's grain.
I'm on my Sony already 3-4 years, as Linux is easy to sit. And Toshiba also want to translate Lin. (Now, alas, I can not - the daughter of her family to travel on vacation sometimes plays games, but every year it goes to fewer games ....)

Post has been editedmkudritsky - 26.11.17, 18:57

A second system put religion does not allow? Or places are not already on the disk polugigabaytnom?

Post has been editedAlex Klein - 26.11.17, 19:14

Laziness before I was born into this world! : D
And Sonya pokompaktnee will. Toshiba rarely turn - about once a month, mainly to charge the battery.
Although now thinking - I have there a 16GB partition in the beginning of the disk. He created it as a section only for the SWAP-File for Vyni.
Here is a thought to throw it vyni swap partition and 16GB push Linux.

Better yet under section hamster highlight. 16GB in today's realities butt.

It is they need a cheap power supply manufacturers agree. Fans save on the power supply completely, and during the combustion of the stuff required to drag away with him to the next world somebody else. Nout of course another story - where quality falls every year.

If the game does not need it and the core 2 duo is still missing, not to mention the i5-i7 first generation. And the game is still more in the graphics card rests, not in percent.

Well 10 and older hardware can operate normally until the first ... "Faile update". And 10ltsb is, there it better, but 7 still stable. Microsoft approach to the OS has now become like a red hat - test the product on a regular user, then sell ottestirovany corporations. Fedora (win 10 home / pro) - RHEL (win 10 ltsb). Only Fedor is free, but for Windu take the money.
By the way, for many motherboards for amd ryzen have wood for win 7. Microsoft seems even to run into AMD for it, for the introduction of dozens of brake.

On whist we must not work on Vista it is necessary to enjoy the. And to be honest: 7 best 10 so currently. I wanted on your laptop as a second to roll 7, did not work. Put ubuntu, also does not arise.

so with any Windows. First you need to install the older versionthis is your ubunta glucodrome, look for another dist

There is Debian, which pulls them to ubuntu ...

There is.
And guess from three times :)
I've been on the move can be called several reasons. While poor old Damian quite respect.

Softiny igrulek for example?