Windows 7 vs windows 10



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Alex Klein @ 16.07.17, 23:23*
But now, with two browser tabs open when you switch to them from the cache to recover.



Modern web page has become very severe. On average - one tab 100MB of RAM. And there are those who eat off of 300.

For comfortable browsing today need at least 4GB of RAM.


And if the work - this word, or 1C with a small base of a small business - is 2GB, 1GB ... perhaps enough with win10 ... I do not know ... she always 700MB otest ... What is enough remaining 300MB ?



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mkudritsky @ 16.07.2017, 14:32*
mandatory for Vyni normal antivirus (KAV or Dr.Web)
the only thing necessary is its absence.
mkudritsky @ 16.07.2017, 14:32*
And over time, it starts very strongly inhibit
it has passed since the release of service pack 3 on XP.
mkudritsky @ 16.07.2017, 14:32*
I consider the minimum for modern operating systems MS (starting with Win XP and above, bypassing the Win Vista): 2Gb RAM + Core 2 Duo.
Well, what do you think so, it is indeed the case will not.
XP enough 256 MB RAM, 1 GB and older.

Post has been editedGoplex - 20.07.17, 15:48



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Goplex @ 20.07.17, 15:47*
XP enough 256 MB RAM, 1 GB and older.
I agree. but these figures = extreme minimum.
so it's best to xp - 512 (better 1024), but the other "senior" - 2,048 (this is the minimum "for boleelemeni something digestible), but it is better 3-4 GB of RAM minimum



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Goplex @ 20.07.17, 15:47*
XP enough 256 MB RAM, 1 GB and older

For Windows XP, 256MB is enough RAM ?!
I agree! But only for Windows XPSP2 and no one upgrade more.

Win XP SP3 + all other updates, which is not really one SP accumulated until 2013, already more monstrous than the Win 7.
She needs to 1024MB of memory, so she just breathed on its own, without attachments.

Goplex @ 20.07.17, 15:47*
the only thing necessary is its absence.

You learn in the Theater School. BV Shchukin?
Class EV Petrosyan? Excellence in training, probably!

Only under vynyu I saw completely zavirusovannye PC completely deleted information!
more than 1 million. Virus was written under it glyukalovo! No other operating system can boast such "achievement"!

Well, what is now the MS-glyukodrom became less infected - the merit of routers, switches, ONTov on Linux.
For now, there is virtually no PC to Win, with a solid IP-Aders and walking directly to the Internet.
Take out all PC cowardly squatting on a non-routed the IP-Aders behind the Linux-routers.

Goplex @ 20.07.17, 15:47*
it has passed since the release of service pack 3 on XP

This applies only conditionally Win 7. And now its speed can not be compared with thereof, for example, in 2009.
But the vaunted Win Prof 10 on my laptop, after 2 years of upgrades, not already loaded so quickly, as in the beginning of the epic called "Win 10 and 1 billion. PC under its control."
MS will soon release a new update and Win 10 will again become as heavy as the weight, all MS OS.
I think that this will happen more and deliberately, with malice - WIntel clan decided to throw the old PC to the new build of Win 10 to force users to upgrade the iron! Exactly processors from Intel for $ 2000 / piece ripe! It's time to get users to upgrade Your ... kick in the butt!

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mkudritsky @ 21.07.17, 03:05*
You learn in the Theater School. BV Shchukin?
Class EV Petrosyan? Excellence in training, probably!
But what about the "check for the presence of absence of a cartridge in the chamber?"



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mkudritsky @ 21.07.17, 02:05*
For Windows XP, 256MB is enough RAM ?!
I agree! But only for Windows XP SP2 update, and no one more.

And SP3 also.
Minimum tasks such as surf in the net and edit documents, it will be possible to implement.
mkudritsky @ 21.07.17, 02:05*
You learn in the Theater School. BV Shchukin?
Class EV Petrosyan? Excellence in training, probably!

It's so "original"!
mkudritsky @ 21.07.17, 02:05*
Only under vynyu I saw completely zavirusovannye PC completely deleted information!
more than 1 million. Virus was written under it glyukalovo! No other operating system can boast such "achievement"!

And no wonder. The only mass OS, so it's Windows. All the others are just too pathetic market and no one to write to it will not.
This is the first. And secondly: the days when there were heaps of viruses, are long gone. Now the new version of most of what was written before, is no longer working. And find something on the interenet expanse is highly unlikely.
mkudritsky @ 21.07.17, 02:05*
Well, what is now the MS-glyukodrom became less infected - the merit of routers, switches, ONTov on Linux.
For now, there is virtually no PC to Win, with a solid IP-Aders and walking directly to the Internet.
Take out all PC cowardly squatting on a non-routed the IP-Aders behind the Linux-routers.

: rofl:
If it were not hallowed God's chosen linups, all userssavagemessiahzine.com, Coming here would just cling viruses. Undoubtedly!
mkudritsky @ 21.07.17, 02:05*
This applies only conditionally Win 7. And now its speed can not be compared with thereof, for example, in 2009.
But the vaunted Win Prof 10 on my laptop, after 2 years of upgrades, not already loaded so quickly, as in the beginning of the epic called "Win 10 and 1 billion. PC under its control."
MS will soon release a new update and Win 10 will again become as heavy as the weight, all MS OS.
I think that this will happen more and deliberately, with malice - WIntel clan decided to throw the old PC to the new build of Win 10 to force users to upgrade the iron! Exactly processors from Intel for $ 2000 / piece ripe! It's time to get users to upgrade Your ... kick in the butt!

ZAGAVAR !!!!
Windu put 10 on an old laptop with 1 gig of memory and processor ancient Penrium 4. It worked faster 7.



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mkudritsky @ 21.07.17, 03:05*
Only under vynyu I saw completely zavirusovannye PC completely deleted information!


Because it is a mass OS. And beneath it sit ordinary users, putting the software to obscure sites and ignores all warnings OS.

There are completely zavirusovannye Androyd smartphones (and androyd, posuti, the same Linux) ...

mkudritsky @ 21.07.17, 03:05*
Well, what is now the MS-glyukodrom became less infected - the merit of routers, switches, ONTov on Linux.


Which, incidentally, is also good break, due krivorukost manufacturers make firmware for devices of data.

mkudritsky @ 21.07.17, 03:05*
WIntel clan decided to throw the old PC to the new build of Win 10 to force users to upgrade the iron!


It should be read not only the headlines, but the very news. The problem with the old atoms from the built-in graphics core based on PowerVR. With wood there from the beginning of the problem.
By the way, Linux on these Atom-ah did not work (even after bypassed UEFI protection of wood under the PowerVR was not).


Goplex @ 21.07.17, 08:36*
Minimum tasks such as surf in the net and edit documents, it will be possible to implement.

On the 256MB of RAM it is now possible to surf only with the help of a Lynx.

Post has been editedvasay.ru - 21.07.17, 15:21



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vasay.ru @ 21.07.2017, 14:20*
There are completely zavirusovannye Androyd smartphones (and androyd, posuti, the same Linux) ...
Where?
vasay.ru @ 21.07.2017, 14:20*
On the 256MB of RAM it is now possible to surf only with the help of a Lynx.
concept of surfing very relative. Someone has to keep a dozen tabs open.
1-2 Open site will be. And there is no other desktop operating system that would cope with it better.



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Goplex @ 21.07.17, 20:37*
Where?


In any "Blonde," which pointed the rubbish from the convenience store.
Or lover polygonal apk with left sites ...

Goplex @ 21.07.17, 20:37*
concept of surfing very relative. Someone has to keep a dozen tabs open.
1-2 Open site will be. And there is no other desktop operating system that would cope with it better.


Only now the average page takes the RAM to 100MB. And some, especially overloaded graphics can eat and 300.



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vasay.ru @ 21.07.2017, 21:10*
In any "Blonde," which pointed the rubbish from the convenience store.
Or lover polygonal apk with left sites ...
never seen a virus on your android neither myself or other people, including a blonde.
vasay.ru @ 21.07.2017, 21:10*
Only now the average page takes the RAM to 100MB. And some, especially overloaded graphics can eat and 300.
It depends on the browser.



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Goplex @ 21.07.17, 22:22*
never seen a virus on your android neither myself or other people, including a blonde.


The fact that they are not visible - does not mean that they are not.

Goplex @ 21.07.17, 22:22*
It depends on the browser.


Well, I say - Lynx still pull.

And so, you open any account at Vinsky - and browser otest 250-500mb RAM:
like this (if you see how much she ate memory - pre-scroll to the end, that would be all the photos to load)http://forum.awd.ru/vi...8e8a53ce33a5649e6a0c6a



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vasay.ru @ 21.07.2017, 21:52*
The fact that they are not visible - does not mean that they are not.
the system itself is designed so that it can not be a virus.



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Goplex @ 21.07.17, 20:37*
Where?
someit happens. and even irrespective of Ruta



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znznznz @ 22.07.17, 14:49*
in some case. and even irrespective of Ruta

So, viruses and where?
P.Shttps: //ru.wikipedia.o...0%B8%D1%80%D1%83%D1%81



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Goplex @ 22.07.17, 16:35*


But in the same article:
In common parlance, "virus" refers to all malware


And it is his androids enough. Infect even SmartTV and refrigerators with built-in android:https://geektimes.ru/post/243177/


But even if we just follow the definition, then:
Goplex @ 22.07.17, 08:29*
the system itself is designed so that it can not be a virus.

In fact, may well ...



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vasay.ru @ 22.07.17, 22:07*
But in the same article:

And yet sometimes people say "theirs", but normal people jarring from it.
vasay.ru @ 22.07.17, 22:07*
And it is his androids enough. Infect even SmartTV and refrigerators with built-in android:https://geektimes.ru/post/243177/

Where?! Where they are ?!
Link that you threw, does not carry any information or from the category of "one grandmother said."
vasay.ru @ 22.07.17, 22:07*
In fact, may well ...

We would then have been to. And as would be proof of this, whining and drooling.
In the meantime, only the yellow Wikipedia.
P.S There are programs that send SMS. Or phishing web banking application. But to get to this can only be an imbecile.



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Goplex @ 23.07.17, 10:48*
Link that you threw, does not carry any information or from the category of "one grandmother said."


If you read it, you would see that the "grandmother" is said. There's a link to the original text of the press release of the company Proofpoint:
http:? //investors.proof...l.cfm releaseid = 819799

Goplex @ 23.07.17, 10:48*
P.S There are programs that send SMS. Or phishing web banking application. But to get to this can only be an imbecile.


At the moment, the main problem - it sklikivanie advertising and the use of smartphones in the bot-netah.

Usually, all it spreads through Pley.Market in which very little control over the applications:http: //news.softpedia....lay-store-502560.shtml
Although the holes in the OS too short:https://habrahabr.ru/post/263759/

Goplex @ 23.07.17, 10:48*
this whining and drooling.


And millions of $$$ for those who do :-(



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Goplex @ 23.07.17, 10:48*
but normal people jarring from this
normally does not happen, but ordinary people do not pay attention to minor "theirs" little things, stress, ...
Goplex @ 23.07.17, 10:48*
Link
I gave up another link to temku in the forum, where the "feeble-minded" (your expression) "whine" from the android from unwanted compulsive manifestations of what they did not order. wherein a nerutirovannymi android and even after the wipe data / factory reset.
you have read the topic, trying to understand? or did not pay attention?
Goplex @ 22.07.17, 16:35*
viruses and where?
as I understand, you're just trying to get to the words of the virus? your virus - is some definite concept of Wikipedia? but the virus is a specific concept - it is generally a medical term, but the concept of a computer virus - a borrowing from medicine, not quite correct, but more like a horror story. IMHO it would be truer to say is not a computer virus, a terrible unknown garbage that came "from somewhere" and "it is not clear what" wants, butfor their own selfish interests, ignoring the interests of the legitimate holder devaysa . IMHO more correct name - malware

alas here vs 10, 7 theme insteadwindows vs linux
you have something on the subject?I my humble opinionhere(A few too emotionally) outlined

Post has been editedznznznz - 23.07.17, 11:54



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vasay.ru @ 23.07.17, 10:18*
If you read it, you would see that the "grandmother" is said. There's a link to the original text of the press release of the company Proofpoin

On behalf of the grandmother are not changed.
It's just idle talk and everything.
vasay.ru @ 23.07.17, 10:18*
At the moment, the main problem - it sklikivanie advertising and the use of smartphones in the bot-netah.

So you can specific examples?
vasay.ru @ 23.07.17, 10:18*
Usually, all it spreads through Pley.Market which is very weak control over applications

It has long been in plee all acceptable to the control.
Find there is something malicious is very hard and need to deliberately do it.
vasay.ru @ 23.07.17, 10:18*
And millions of $$$ for those who do

Where are the facts? : Lol:
znznznz @ 23.07.17, 10:24*
normally does not happen, but ordinary people do not pay attention to minor "theirs" little things, stress, ...

Type so decided to justify himself?
znznznz @ 23.07.17, 10:24*
I gave up another link to temku in the forum, where the "feeble-minded" (your expression) "whine" from the android from unwanted compulsive manifestations of what they did not order. wherein a nerutirovannymi android and even after the wipe data / factory reset.
you have read the topic, trying to understand? or did not pay attention?

Have not seen.
znznznz @ 23.07.17, 10:24*
as I understand, you're just trying to get to the words of the virus?

Terminology is very important.
znznznz @ 23.07.17, 10:24*
your virus - is some definite concept of Wikipedia?

It is not in my opinion. In kazhdgo vredonsnogo software has its own definition. And no, I invented it.
Furthermore, since not only software. We communicate by means of definitions, in order to understand each other. So no need to replace the concept.
znznznz @ 23.07.17, 10:24*
alas here Topic 7 vs 10, rather than windows vs linux

znznznz @ 23.07.17, 10:24*
you have something on the subject? I my humble opinion there (a few too emotionally) outlined

I have too.



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Here, recently I became convinced as the vaunted Windows 10 runs on laptops and PCs.
I have two configurations of houses with Win 10 64bit Prof:
1. PC: Intel Core i7 2600K, 16Gb RAM, NVidia GTS 1060, HDD 1500Mb 7200RPM.
2. Toshiba Laptop: Intel Core 2 Duo 2x2.2GHz, 4Gb RAM, AMD Radeon, 512Gb HDD 5400RPM.

For these computers, I personally rarely work, but I put the OS and sometimes still sit behind them.
Win 10 64bit Prof was placed about 2 years ago (well, as soon as it came out officially). And all updates to it are set correctly! Day-to-day!

So, guys, I worked half a day on one and on another machine and was amazed - as a 2-year renovation turned Win 10 in the brake!
This horror of some! And the vaunted fast-loading had disappeared! Now I even have Win XP boot faster.
Daughter asks carry on a laptop Win 10 and install it on the back of Win 7!

So MS - it is in MS Africa!
Galimov property MS systems with time to swell and inhibit not gone anywhere.
And, perhaps, Windows 7 - the best thing that could make our favorite company of "good".
Probably, Win 7 even somewhere lucky - very soon after it came out Win 8 / 8.1 and, finally, Win 10. For this reason, Win 7 has got less boring, braking upgrades.

P.S. I foresee that in particular say boosters Take your 10-: normal people for a long time do not use HDD and put the system on the SSD.
But with the pace Win 10 soon and an SSD will begin to slow down hopelessly.
And as small under such circumstances come to conquer the market of devices on ARM-processor with its now extensively sculpted Win 10 Full for ARM ?!
Yes, and the X86 architecture to a brake operating on the weak processors ARM emulate gathered! : D

Post has been editedmkudritsky - 16.08.17, 13:55


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