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Characteristics of the last three models of routers Netgear

For Russia, relevant European versions of routers (not locked). For them in the numbering of any letters at the end of the model number is not put.

Netgear AirCard AC785 Mobile Hotspot

URL to the European site Netgear
Router on Qualcomm MDM9225, LTE cat.4 chipset, no aggregation, speed up to 150Mbps
SKU code indicated on the box for a single European model: AC785-100EUS
Supported frequencies:
LTE FDD: B1, B3, B7, B8, B20
LTE TDD: B38
3G: 850/900/2100 MHz
2G: 900/1800 MHz

Battery for AC875: NETGEAR W-3
Capacity: 2000 mAh (3.7V, 7.4Wh)

Netgear aircardAC790Mobile Hotspot

URL to the European site Netgear
Router on Qualcomm MDM9230, LTE cat.6 chipset, two lanes aggregation, speed up to 300Mbps
The SKU code shown on the box for a single European model: AC790-100EUS
Supported frequencies:
LTE FDD: B1, B3, B7, B8, B20
LTE TDD: B38, B40
LTE CA: B3 + B20, B3 + B7, B7 + B20, B3 + B3, B7 + B7, B38 + B38
3G: 850/900/1900/2100
2G: not supported

Battery for AC790: NETGEAR W-7
Capacity: 2930 mAh (3.8V, 11.8Wh)

Netgear AirCard AC810 Mobile Hotspot

URL to the European site Netgear
The router on the Qualcomm MDM9240 chipset,
SKU code shown on the box for a single European model: AC810-100EUS
On the box with the router indicated - LTE cat.9, aggregation of three lanes, speed up to 450 Mbit / s
The site and datasheet indicate - LTE cat.11, aggregation of three lanes, speed up to 600Mbps
Supported frequencies:
LTE FDD: B1, B3, B7, B8, B20
LTE TDD: B38, B40, B41
LTE 2CA: B1 + B8, B1 + B20, B3 + B3, B3 + B7, B7 + B7, B3 + B8, B3 + B20, B3 + B38, B20 + B20, B38 + B38, B41 + B41
LTE 3CA: B3 + B3 + B7, B3 + B3 + B20, B3 + B7 + B7, B3 + B7 + B20, B40 + B40 + B40, B41 + B41 + B41
3G: 850/900/1900/2100
2G: not supported

Battery for AC810: NETGEAR W-7
Capacity: 2930 mAh (3.8V, 11.8Wh)

Operator versions of routers come with a letterSat the end of the model number:
Different LTE ranges for a particular operator, and usually go locked under it.
For example:

Netgear AirCard AC810S for the Australian operator Telstra

The router on the Qualcomm MDM9240 chipset, LTE cat.11, aggregation of three lanes, speed up to 600Mbps
http: //www.netgear.com...d/hotspots/AC810S.aspx
SKU code: AC810S-1TLAUS
LTE FDD: B1, B3, B7, B8, B28 (Australian frequencies, our B20 is not. Because of this, there is not much use in Russia)
LTE TDD: not supported (our B38 is not)
LTE 2CA: B3 + B28, B3 + B7, B7 + B28, B7 + B7
LTE 3CA: B28 + B3 + B7, B3 + B7 + B7, B28 + B7 + B7
3G: 850/900/1900/2100
2G: not supported

Netgear AirCard AC810S for Polish Play operator

Router on Qualcomm MDM9240, LTE cat.9 chipset, aggregation of three lanes, speed up to 450 Mbit / s
http://www.play.pl/tel…netgear-router-ac810s/
SKU code: AC810S-1P1PLS
LTE FDD: B1, B3, B7, B8, B20
LTE TDD: B38, B40, B41
LTE 2CA: B1 + B8, B1 + B20, B3 + B3, B3 + B7, B7 + B7, B3 + B8, B3 + B20, B3 + B38, B20 + B20, B38 + B38, B41 + B41
LTE 3CA: B3 + B3 + B7, B3 + B3 + B20, B3 + B7 + B7, B3 + B7 + B20, B40 + B40 + B40, B41 + B41 + B41
3G: 850/900/1900/2100
2G: not supported

The router is not locked to the Play operator. Any sim cards work.
In terms of frequencies and characteristics, the Polish router AC810S-1P1PLS is completely analogous to the European version AC810-100EUS.

Netgear AirCard AC810S for the American operator Sprint

The router on the Qualcomm MDM9640 chipset, LTE cat.9, aggregation of three lanes, speed up to 450 Mbps
CDMA / RTT / Ev-Do router
SKU code: AC810S-1SNNAS
LTE FDD: B2, B4, B5, B12, B25, B26
LTE TDD: B41
CDMA / Ev-Do: 800, 850, 1900
3G: Band II, IV, V
2G: not supported

Netgear AirCard AC815S for US AT & T operator

The router on the Qualcomm MDM9240 chipset, LTE cat.9, aggregation of three (two ???) lanes, speed up to 450 Mbit / s
- dust and moisture protected housing (IP65)
- high-capacity battery 4340 mAh
http: //www.netgear.com…/AC815S.aspx? cid = gwmng
SKU code: AC815S-1A1NAS
LTE FDD: B2, B4, B5, B7, B12, B30
LTE TDD: not supported
LTE CA: ???
3G: Band II, V
2G: 850, 1900

Useful information on Netgear routers

Access to the AT port of the router

Four ways:

1. Through the regular driver (works on any AC78X, AC79X, AC81X)
- Download port driverAC78xSDrivers.exefrom netgear site.

- install the driver, after which three COMxx virtual ports will appear in the system:
NETGEAR WWAN Modem VSP
NETGEAR DM Port VSP
NETGEAR NMEA Port VSP

- connect the router with a USB cable to the computer.

- knock on the virtual port "NETGEAR WWAN Modem VSP" terminalkoy.

2. Access directly to the port without installing the driver, via USB-cord through the network interface RNDIS

In Netgear routers - AT, the port is also active inAT port over TCP. For use:

- connect the router with a USB cable to the computer.

- Use for example Putty or any other terminal and select in the settings
HostName:192.168.1.1
Port:5510
ConnectionType:Telnet

3. Access directly to the port via Wi-Fi connection
By default, access to port 5510 via Wi-Fi is blocked. To bypass, you need to change the port number to another value.

You can connect via Wi-Fi by analogy with the example above:
HostName:192.168.1.1
Port:XXXX (which you put in the config)
ConnectionType:Telnet

Details on changing the port fromsandwern:
Netgear AirCard AC785 (S), AC790 (S), AC810 (S) - Discussion (Post sandwern # 52346558)


Attention!
Standard password from Sierra "A710" - does not fit Netgear routers for unlocking extended AT commands
Netgear uses its modified passwords. And for different models - passwords are also different.

For aircardAC810-100EUSblocking from extended AT commands is removed throughAT! ENTERCND = "whistler"
For aircardAC810S-1P1PLSblocking from extended AT commands is removed throughAT! ENTERCND = "seymour"
For aircardAC810S-1TLAUSblocking from extended AT commands is removed throughAT! ENTERCND = "grouse"
For aircardAC810S-1RDQASblocking from extended AT commands is removed throughAT! ENTERCND = "cypress"
For aircardAC790-100EUSblocking from extended AT commands is removed throughAT! ENTERCND = "lavender"


For other Aircard ACxxx - passwords are not yet known. But if you want, you can always try to find out from the router itself ...
It is enough to remove the dump sections of the flash drive and pull it out from there ...

Access to the diagnostic port of the router (for QPST, QXDM, etc.)

Two options:

1. Through the regular driver from Netgear

- Download port driverAC78xSDrivers.exefrom netgear site.

- install the driver, after which three COMxx virtual ports will appear in the system:
NETGEAR WWAN Modem VSP
NETGEAR DM Port VSP
NETGEAR NMEA Port VSP

- connect the router with a USB cable to the computer.

- Install QPST, and in the settings select the port "NETGEAR DM Port VSP"
QPST 2.7.437 you can takehereor 2.7.441here


2. Access directly to the port without installing the driver

In the AC810 router - the diagnostic port is also active in theDM port over TCP
Default values:
HostName:192.168.1.1
Port:5511

For use with QPST, we add these values ​​in IP: PORT format on the Ports tab.>Add New Port>Outgoing IP Connections.
By default, access to port 5511 is open only when the router is connected to the computer via a USB cable.
If you want to get work with the Dianhous port via Wi-Fi, then you need to change the port number to another value.

Details on changing the diagnostic port fromsandwern:
Netgear AirCard AC785 (S), AC790 (S), AC810 (S) - Discussion (Post sandwern # 52578326)

Determination of carrier parameters when working in the aggregation mode (Carrier Aggregation)

Actual for AC790 and AC810.

Parameters of carriers that are participating in the aggregation mode (Carrier Aggregation) are not visible in the web interface of the router. It displays data only on the main carrier. You can find out the parameters of all carriers only with the help of AT commands.

To see them you need:
1. Start the download and wait for the LTE-A icon to appear on the router's display.
2. send the command AT! GSTATUS?

The response in the "PCC:" section will be the parameters of the main carrier. In the sections "SCC1:" and "SCC2:" for additional.

example from Sandwern. Aggregation B7 (20Mhz) + B7 (20Mhz):

AT! GSTATUS?
! GSTATUS:
Current Time: 254 Mode: ONLINE
System mode: LTE PS state: Attached
EMM state: Registered Normal Service
RRC state: RRC Connected
IMS reg state: No Srv

PCC:
LTE band: B7
LTE bw: 20 MHz
LTE Rx chan: 2850
LTE Tx chan: 20850
RSSI (dBm): -73.5
RSRP (dBm): -101.5
RSRQ (dB): -7.2
RSSNR (dB): 19
Tx Power (dBm): 11.0
LTE Cell ID: 253717762
Physical Cell ID: 29
TAC: 9987

SCC1:
LTE band: B7
LTE bw: 20 MHz
LTE Rx chan: 3048
RSSI (dBm): -78.3
RSRP (dBm): -97.1
RSRQ (dB): -9.7
Physical Cell ID: 29

Ok

Configure user profiles for AT! BAND

Theory:
Netgear AirCard AC785 (S), AC790 (S), AC810 (S) - Discussion (Post Skvo # 50785404)
Practice:
Netgear AirCard AC785 (S), AC790 (S), AC810 (S) - Discussion (Post vitaly_dv # 52546661)

Post has been editedSkvo - 25.03.17, 00:25

[sandwern]

Battery for AC815: NETGEAR W-9
Capacity: 4340 mAh (3.8V, 16.9Wh)

Battery for AC810, AC790: NETGEAR W-7
Capacity: 2930 mAh (3.8V, 11.8Wh)

Battery for AC875: NETGEAR W-3
Capacity: 2000 mAh (3.7V, 7.4Wh)

Brief documentation on the European models in the attach.

Attached files

AC810.pdf(804,17 РљР‘)
AC790.pdf(265.9 KB)
AC785.pdf(1.05 MB)
AirCard_Smart_Cradle_DC112A_Datasheet_LS_Generic_LR.pdf(1.23 MB)
AirCard 4G LTE Signal Boosting Cradle with Ethernet DC113A.pdf(687.54 KB)


Post has been editedsandwern - 13.10.16, 18:54

[Skvo]

Some common questions ...

Netgear AirCard AC785 Mobile Hotspot:
removable battery - 2000 mAh.
Wi-Fi 802.11n dual band 2.4 and 5 GHz. Both networks can operate simultaneously.
Last year, the European model AC785-100EUS was officially shipped to Russia. The truth was very expensive.
Ixbt had a review of this router a year ago:
http://www.ixbt.com/co…gear-aircard-785.shtml


Netgear AirCard AC790 Mobile Hotspot:
removable battery - 2930 mAh.
Wi-Fi 802.11ac, dual band 2.4 and 5 GHz. Both networks can operate simultaneously.
This year, the European model AC790-100EUS is planned to be delivered to Russia ...
Alternatively, you can order oncomputeruniverse
Model overview can belook here(German)

Netgear AirCard AC810 Mobile Hotspot:
Removable battery - 2930 mAh.
Wi-Fi 802.11n dual band 2.4 and 5 GHz. Both networks can operate simultaneously.
This year, the European model AC810-100EUS is planned to be delivered to Russia ...
Alternatively, you can order oncomputeruniverse
A review of the European version has not yet met, but you can look at the Australian AC810S:
http: //www.gizmodo.com...00mbps-mobile-hotspot/

Post has been editedSkvo - 26.05.16, 21:53

[sandwern]

Skvo @ 05/26/2016, 3:00 p.m.

A review of the European version has not yet met, but you can look at the Australian AC810S:
http: //www.gizmodo.com...00mbps-mobile-hotspot/

By the way, CA combinations are known for this model:

1800+700, 1800+2600, 2600+700, 2600+2600,
700+1800+2600, 1800+2600+2600,
700 + 2,600 + 2,600 MHz.

It can be concluded that if LTE-800 is used instead of 700 in Europe, the list will be as follows:

1800+800, 1800+2600, 2600+800, 2600+2600,
800+1800+2600, 1800+2600+2600,
800 + 2,600 + 2,600 MHz.

But as long as we do not have a manual, nothing can be said. And on the version from Telstrahe is (see page 104).

[Skvo]

Sandwern @ 05/26/2016, 10:09 PM

But as long as we do not have a manual, nothing can be said. And on the version from Telstra it is (see page 104).

Here is the European AC810 support page.
https: //www.netgear.co...t/AC810.aspx? cid = gwmng

User Manual is there:
http: //www.downloads.n...Retail/AC810_UM_EN.pdf

Sandwern @ 05/26/2016, 10:09 PM

It can be concluded that if LTE-800 is used instead of 700 in Europe, the list will be as follows:

It is necessary to look at the box with the router from the side. They usually write there.
It remains to wait for the real owners to photograph and show that there ...

Post has been editedSkvo - 26.05.16, 22:29

[sandwern]

Skvo @ 05/26/2016, 10:19 PM

User Manual is there:
http: //www.downloads.n...Retail/AC810_UM_EN.pdf

Thank you, did not notice. Then yes ... Sly what, in the version of the manual for Telstra indicated, but here - no ... :)
To find a list of combinations allowed by 3GPP, so as to at least reduce the percentage of doubts ... Unless, if I'm not mistaken,herethere is something (Inter band CA - three bands).

Skvo @ 05/26/2016, 10:19 PM

It is necessary to look at the box with the router from the side. They usually write there.
It remains to wait for the real owners ...

Huawei E5786 for 15 thousand rubles. on Avito sell and take it, with 128 MB of RAM ... And then there is such a tasty ...

Post has been editedsandwern - 26.05.16, 22:28

[AcidManVrn]

AC810 is good, infection. and despite the price, the option is interesting. one thing is not clear. why 2G cut out? in the same Y900NB left well ... and in some regions, in the outback, it even works very well. even sometimes better than 3G in Moscow: lol:

[vvevvevve]

AcidManVrn @ 05/27/2016, 10:50

one thing is not clear. why 2G cut out?

Yes, for a mobile router this is a very unpleasant thing. Unpleasant to the complete unsuitability of such devices for use outside of cities. Here the question is not even as “not bad / works badly”, but more rigidly. Take, for example, any federal highway. In what extent, in relation to the total length, is it possible to work in UMTS networks? Units of interest, if not a percentage. And what, on a trip all this time to remain without data transmission or to use some kind of additional modem?

However, this is such a general trend for Sierra products. For example, in the MC (EM) 7430 (55) modules the exact same picture - GSM is not supported.
Probably, this can be considered as a kind of payment for technological superiority: we get the support of the most "fresh" technologies at the moment, while losing the support of obsolete ones. However, if in the case of the AC810 we don’t know how other equipment manufacturers will behave on such a platform (maybe, in some future Alcatel Y1000 on the MDM9240, there will also be no GSM support), then the AC790 is obviously a bad choice in our realities - good In this class of devices there is something to choose from, and what can be chosen does not have the disadvantage under discussion. Not to mention that much cheaper. Well, the AC785 may be of interest unless an unassuming consumer thanks to the support of B38. After all, from a technical point of view, this is, let's say, the equivalent of a penny MF910. And by the time the B38 becomes seriously relevant in Russia, there will probably be many other devices that are more interesting in terms of price / capabilities.

[sandwern]

AcidManVrn @ 05/27/2016, 10:50

and in some regions, in the outback, it even works quite well. even sometimes better than 3G in Moscow

Here IMHO is the right decision, now I will tell you why.Everything written below is a personal opinion.

The router is used to provide (high-speed) Internet access for several devices at once. The 2G network doesn’t fit into this definition. If there is such a situation, where there is neither UMTS nor LTE, then it may make sense to go online using the SIM installed in the phone (smartphone), why should you drive a whole router for this?

There is one more thing. In many European countries and in the USA, Singapore (the same SingTel), there is talk of discontinuing support for GSM networks as obsolete. So such a move Netgear is hardly surprising. In Russia, of course, in my opinion, 2G networks will live for a long time, because to cover such a territory with a link is not a simple matter, and currently this network remains the only option.

Post has been editedsandwern - 27.05.16, 12:28

[vvevvevve]

Sandwern @ 05/27/2016, 11:41

If there is such a situation, where there is neither UMTS nor LTE, then it may make sense to go online using the SIM installed in the phone (smartphone), why should you drive a whole router for this?

But this is a mobile router! He is called so because he always "walks" and "goes" with me.
I don’t know if I’ll have a situation like “a situation where neither UMTS nor LTE has” even after 15 minutes, even when traveling around Moscow. Not to mention traveling for a long time outside the city or region.
You suggest that I watch every minute whether such a situation has suddenly developed and reconfigure all the devices that are connected to the router without GSM support to use the traffic distributed from the phone? Yes, for this, I still have to set up the phone myself for distribution, here I also have to “fly for money”, because the tariff on the card in the phone is not suitable for data transfer. Then look for where and from what to charge this phone, which in the access point mode will burn the battery three times faster ...
And then, when the situation changes, reconfigure everything back.

And all this hemorrhoids - just to see the logo of a certain manufacturer on the face of your wonderful router? :) Well, okay - even to test somewhere - probably not in the place where it could actually be useful - the work of the wonderful 3CA.
Something somehow it does not look very attractive. And the knowledge that "in many European countries and in the USA ... there is talk of discontinuing support for GSM networks" for some reason does not add to its attractiveness.

[sandwern]

Vvevvevve @ 05/27/2016, 12:56

And all this hemorrhoids - just to see the logo of a certain manufacturer on the face of your wonderful router?

In order to have a device that would not hang when working with MegaFon aggregation, it had adequate firmware and management, relatively normal quality of the case materials and a replaceable battery, which can be bought in a retail network.

Vvevvevve @ 05/27/2016, 12:56

You suggest that I watch every minute whether such a situation has suddenly developed and reconfigure all the devices that are connected to the router without GSM support to use the traffic distributed from the phone?

Where was this said? GPRS / EDGE is in fact for viewing sites, a maximum, to exchange documents. But certainly not to download torrents or play online games. If you meet a zone where there are no other networks besides GSM, you can simply wait for the moment when the normal Internet (3G, 4G) will appear and quietly use. If the router will be operated permanently and where there is only 2G, then yes, it is necessary to choose another model. And another question, you will be satisfied with the speed of such a network when working with multiple devices? Can you call it comfortable work in the network?

Vvevvevve @ 05/27/2016, 12:56

here it is also “run for money”, because the tariff on the card in the phone is not suitable for data transfer

Immediately I remembered the time when there was only WAP and 1.5-2 rubles were filmed for 10 kB. So far, for all the time, I have never been able to run into money when the traffic in the GSM network is exceeded. Teach? :)

Post has been editedsandwern - 27.05.16, 13:21

[AcidManVrn]

Sandwern @ 05/27/2016, 1:16 PM

If you meet a zone where there are no other networks besides GSM, you can simply wait for the moment when the normal Internet (3G, 4G) will appear and quietly use.

On the M2, M4 or M9 highway, you can expect this moment right before arriving in Moscow from the region :) you still want from the universality router, or something ... so as not to carry around a bunch of devices for each case

[sandwern]

AcidManVrn @ 05/27/2016, 2:09 PM

On the M2, M4 or M9 highway, you can expect this moment right before arriving in Moscow from the region, but you still want from the universality router, or something ... so as not to carry around a bunch of devices for each case

As for the M4, I can say for sure that on the section of the route throughout the MO and the southern regions of the Tula region, LTE or 3G reception is pretty sure, so there was no particular problem there. In other cases, you just have to pay attention to other devices. If you are on the road only with a smartphone, again, this is not so scary. In case a laptop and a router are used on the road, then yes, the AC790 and AC810 will not be the best options to buy.

[AcidManVrn]

Sandwern @ 05/27/2016, 2:19 PM

As for the M4, I can say for sure that on the stretch of the route throughout the MO and the southern regions of the Tula region, the reception of LTE or 3G is pretty sure

I drive m4 stably once every 2 weeks right up to Voronezh. I do not observe any confident 3zh, nor even more so than the mets, nor the MTS, nor the megaphone. One megaphone dies somewhere near the second congress at home. before reaching a107.

[vvevvevve]

Sandwern @ 05/27/2016, 1:16 PM

But certainly not to download torrents or play online games.

You are confusing something. I repeat: we are talking aboutmobilethe router. What figs are torrents on the way?

If you met a zone where there are no other networks besides GSM, you can simply wait until the normal Internet (3G, 4G) appears and quietly use

And if I can not wait? I need to get some kind of letter urgently. And send an answer to it. And the right moment will appear, for example, in an hour and a half. Obviously worthless option.

Will you be satisfied with the speed of such a network when working with multiple devices? Can you call it comfortable work in the network?

Call comfortable - I can not. But quite satisfied. Just because there is nowhere to go, there are no other options. Is it only a satellite ...

So far, for all the time, I have never been able to run into money when the traffic in the GSM network is exceeded. Teach?

Did I ever talk about any excess? Do not you know that the Russian Internet operators "retail", with megabyte charging, costs about 10 rubles per megabyte?
The data transfer rate in the GSM (EDGE) network almost never drops below 150 Kbps, i.e. about 20 KB / s. The minute is 1.2 MB, i.e. 12 rubles. Hour - 72 MB, 720 rubles. Is not the money? It is clear that you can enable any option that allows you to get, say, for 5 ... 10 rubles 50 ... 75 MB per day. But you need to turn it on and then turn it off. Or pay money for it every day, even if it really is almost never needed. And this is despite the fact that a normal data connection is used in the underlying router, but only this router now does not work, because does not support GSM. Is it nonsense? You still suggest to rearrange the SIM card from the router to the phone ...

Posted on 05/27/2016, 18:38:

Sandwern @ 05/27/2016, 1:16 PM

have a device that would not hang when working with MegaFon aggregation

And who told you that with the Megaphone aggregation, the AC810 or AC790 will not hang? Has anyone tested them on this network?

[sandwern]

AcidManVrn @ 05/27/2016, 18:12

I drive m4 stably once every 2 weeks right up to Voronezh. I do not observe any confident 3zh, nor even more so than the mets, nor the MTS, nor the megaphone. One megaphone dies somewhere near the second congress at home. before reaching a107.

I will not argue. According to my observations, when driving from Grid (Tula region) to Domodedovo - 4G / 3G inclusive, good reception, then 3G (sometimes 4G) to Moscow. It is worth noting that LTE catches especially well on the highway in the Kashira region. This is a megaphone. With MTS, things are much worse there ...

Vvevvevve @ 05/27/2016, 18:34

You are confusing something. I repeat: we are talking about a mobile router. What figs are torrents on the way?

Again stereotypes. To the router, what is attached instructions, what resources can be used on the road, and what not? Or do you think a mobile router serves only to browse sites from several devices and work with electric mail? My words from the message # 12: "But certainly not download torrents or play online games." Please clarify where the opposite is said?

Vvevvevve @ 05/27/2016, 18:34

The data transfer rate in the GSM (EDGE) network almost never drops below 150 Kbps, i.e. about 20 KB / s.

Nearly. But sometimes it falls because there are places where even this type of communication does not work. And even, if necessary, I can confirm my words.

Vvevvevve @ 05/27/2016, 18:34

Did I ever talk about any excess? Do not you know that the Russian Internet operators "retail", with megabyte charging, costs about 10 rubles per megabyte?
The minute is 1.2 MB, i.e. 12 rubles. Hour - 72 MB, 720 rubles. Is not the money? It is clear that you can enable any option that allows you to get, say, for 5 ... 10 rubles 50 ... 75 MB per day. But you need to turn it on and then turn it off. Or pay money for it every day, even if it really is almost never needed. And this is despite the fact that a normal data connection is used in the underlying router, but only this router now does not work, because does not support GSM. Is it nonsense? You still suggest to rearrange the SIM card from the router to the phone ...

The main tariff plans of our operators for ordinary users are packages of minutes + traffic. To choose a knowingly non-optimal tariff plan, and then be surprised at its cost - what is it for? Some operators may have a 500 MB package for bonuses. My position is this: even with a mobile router, it is necessary to have a backup, even a very small packet of traffic. And let it be, it does not interfere, and if absolutely necessary, it can help out great.

Vvevvevve @ 05/27/2016, 18:34

And if I can not wait? I need to get some kind of letter urgently. And send an answer to it. And the right moment will appear, for example, in an hour and a half. Obviously worthless option.

For such cases, I have already described a similar situation in the previous message - if it does not suit you personally, it does not mean that it does not suit everyone. Since we have plenty of places where only 2G catches, I repeat once again, in this case it is better to pay attention to other devices.

Vvevvevve @ 05/27/2016, 18:34

And who told you that with the Megaphone aggregation, the AC810 or AC790 will not hang? Has anyone tested them on this network?

And who said what will happen? The instructions for the AC790 clearly spelled out this combination. About AC810 I can not say anything, because There is no such information in the manual. Yes, the manual for the Y900NB also says that CA_7_7 is supported, but in fact not. But subscribers learned about this after testing.

Update: In addition, there is a declaration of conformity in the Russian Federation, where the SKU code of the models discussed here is clearly stated. Yes, it does not commit to anything, but it is unlikely that Netgear simply indicated "that it was" indicated by AC790-100EUS and AC810-100EUS.

Post has been editedsandwern - 27.05.16, 19:06

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Sandwern @ 05/27/2016, 6:59 PM

The manual for the Y900NB also says that CA_7_7 is supported, but in fact not

Not understood. What does "no" mean? If in a couple of special places, when working with certain BS, this failure occurs - in your opinion, does this mean “not supported”? Despite the fact that in all other places such aggregation works fine?
I am compelled to state that this is an obvious example of a biased approach, the negation of things observed in practice. Why do you do this?
For the sake of interest, start a poll in the Y900 thread: who among their owners came across such “damned” places? Or, on the contrary: who has never met with problems related to aggregation in the Megaphone network?

You are so defending the choice of Sierra routers, as if you already bought one of them and have already managed to give up on it. :) In any case, a similar picture is usually observed in such cases: when a person made a wrong choice, did not take into account something before buying, and then tries to prove - first of all, to himself - the insignificance of this error or / and (in clinical cases ) the fact that the options chosen by other people are much worse.

I propose not to deceive anyone and honestly admit, in my opinion, quite obvious things:

1. We do not know at all how the discussed Aircard routers work in megafon networks. We do not know because of the lack of available results of field experiments. Even assuming that such experiments have ever been carried out by someone.
In this regard, we can not say in advance about the presence or absence of failures in their work in those "bad" for CA_7_7 places.

2. The lack of GSM support in the AirCard routers under discussion is a significant drawback.

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Vvevvevve @ 05/27/2016, 19:57

For the sake of interest, start a poll in the Y900 thread: who among their owners came across such “damned” places? Or, on the contrary: who has never met with problems related to aggregation in the Megaphone network?

This can only be done by topic manager or topic curator. But I am inclined to believe that the result will be in favor of that option “Collide”. Just read the topic. The survey should take part only those people who live in cities where Megafon aggregation works, otherwise there is no point in this.

Vvevvevve @ 05/27/2016, 19:57

You are so defending the choice of Sierra routers, as if you already bought one of them and have already managed to give up on it.

As for me, there is a picture similar to the one when they try to attribute to a person the use of the device under discussion, which he never possessed and does not possess (and does not plan to), arguing that he “actively protects” him, although not in one of the messages this was not, only the qualitative features of the products under discussion were noted.

Vvevvevve @ 05/27/2016, 19:57

1. We do not know at all how the discussed Aircard routers work in megafon networks. We do not know because of the lack of available results of field experiments. Even assuming that such experiments have ever been carried out by someone.
In this regard, we can not say in advance about the presence or absence of failures in their work in those "bad" for CA_7_7 places.

Again, in the manual for the AC790 this combination is clearly indicated as supported, as long as there are no test results, but Netgear is not Alcatel and it has never been, obviously.

Vvevvevve @ 05/27/2016, 19:57

2. The lack of GSM support in the AirCard routers under discussion is a significant drawback.

I agree - for users of those countries where 2G networks are actively exploited, as previously reported in previous posts. IMHO, this topic was created to discuss these devices, which we are doing, but no one wants to impose a decision on any choice.

Why so hard to defend the standard 2G, which, in fact, is designed for voice communications? After all, the distribution of EDGE, for example, to several people, through a router is a strange thing, having no logic.

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Recently decided to contact Netgear support to get any comments on 2G in AC810.

First answered the business development manager in the Russian Federation, Elena N. The answer was: "The models AC790-100EUS and AC810-100EUS are not supplied to Russia.".
At the same time, a request was sent to Netgear technical support in Russia, where the operator nevertheless decided to provide assistance and contacted the engineer to clarify the situation. In response, the engineer sent the frequencies of 3G and 4G, adding about 2G that "unfortunately there is no way to test this issue." It's a shame, okay, that at least they didn't send it at all, it's already nice.

Regarding the appearance of the device in Russia, the operator recommended to contact the head office in Moscow by phone, listed on the website Netgear(+7 495 269 0260).

I was pretty deeply touched on the topic, but how relevant is 2G against 3G / 4G now and it was decided to ask my friends if they would buy a router without GSM support (EDGE). Five people took part in the survey. Four of them answered that they did not see the need for 2G, since it is still impossible to use the Internet comfortably. The fifth person lives far away from Moscow, his answer was something like this: “I don’t imagine a situation where 2G would be required if cities have normal 3G and less common 4G. and the user does not need media content like videos and pictures. " It turns out, indeed, the choice is very difficult and depends on the goals and needs of the person.

And finally,video with workdevices in the Australian Telstra + networkpresentation.

P.S. For the sake of justice, it is worth noting that this operator has a total bandwidth of 80MHz, even Megafon does not have this and most likely will never have any of the operators. However, as a demonstration of the work of LTE Cat.11 is very even.

Post has been editedsandwern - 01.06.16, 23:19

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Colleagues, recently acquired a 4G AC785 router. I tried to find out in the official representative office why they sell routers in Russia without EAC (PCT) and CCC marking. The answer of the official representative office is “because our routers are intended for sale not only in Russia, but also in Europe, these certificates are not obligatory”.

The statement, to be honest, is in doubt. But the question is not even that. Tell me, are the remote controls different for EMR routers in Europe (America) and Russia?
Found several sources on the Internet:
article 1
(see doktor-Alex comment)
article 2
(see comment Alexey Dolgov)

Why do I ask, that the level of dBm with the help of Xirrus Wi-Fi and inSSIDer is not very different from other routers, including from my HTC desire S. But at the same time, I (I have been working with AC785 for three days) have a headache and then the pressure on the MOLC)). When I turn it off - everything is OK. Could this be related to the same energy flux density?

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Addition: I tried to find how to reduce the netgear power programmatically, but so far unsuccessfully.