who what is convenient. security thatWhatssAPPTelegram that good. looking for what purpose to use .. business better (or rather longer used) vatsap. Archery targets telegram. )) Well I use. And most importantly, that garazdo (so far) is greater) whasapp users)

Spit on encryption and other things those "who loves all hiding." But vatsapp in the 2019th year, did not understand until now that I can have more than one device. And it's full ideotizm. If I lie to the plate and I need to write / answer in the same telegram, I simply open it and write on the tablet. Vatsappa for me to look for a smartphone and respond to it. This is idiocy, in 2019th year, an application for a long time should allow me to synchronize and connect to the same account on all my devices.
But ironically, it is most necessary to me the contacts, so you have to use them primarily.

Post has been editedAlex93 - 31.03.19, 12:55

Durov criticized Votsapp.

Quote from the news site:

"The news about the discovery in the messenger WhatsApp (owned by Facebook) a serious vulnerability that allows an attacker to put on users' smartphones spyware inspired founder messenger Telegram Pavel Durov writing a column dedicated to the messengers of security. It Durov criticized WhatsApp and accused of hypocrisy head of Facebook Mark Zuckerberg . "

Search will find all this text and the like.

Let's see what answer Votsapp.

Grades Mr.

TG better. And thismy personalopinion.

I use and so and so. In a telegram more opportunities, but not everyone needs them. Purely for communication approaches, of course, Vatsap, and for more in-depth use - Telegram with TV and bots.

I have to admit that telegrams steeper, but it does not work without the VPN.

MastiFF555,
Telegram works without VPN.
But I prefer Votsapp, for everything.

Post has been editedMegaboson - 03.06.19, 16:01

Oh, not those telecom operators I probably MTS, Beeline, Megafon, Moscow region.

Oo gained smoking room, and the truth.

Post has been editedMastiFF555 - 03.06.19, 16:09

MastiFF555,
Long running normally without VPN.

Megaboson and you did not like to hide? You live in the house with glass walls and curtains on the windows, and the lock on your door, and password on your Phone and computer costs, and all in a row everything you do not tell, we have a lot of privacy in life although we like anything this and do not do and do not like to hide from anyone. And everything is always conceal his correspondence, letters, text more often than not on a postcard written and put in an envelope and sealed, so that no one has read. And with our totalitarian regime you at any moment you can be in the "ungracious" and the authorities and all the years the EP you do not even understand that you check. And now a lot of messengers of information, even like as unimportant

medfan,
It was addressed to me exactly?

I have something to maintain existing law guarantees the confidentiality of correspondence.

http://www.constitution.ru/

RF Constitution, Article 23 of claim 2.

"Everyone has the right to privacy of correspondence, telephone conversations, postal, telegraph and other communications. Limitation of this right shall be allowed only on the basis of a court decision."

A judgment may only relate to the individual, of course.

And...

Article 15.

"The Constitution of the Russian Federation hassupreme legal force and direct effect and it applies to the entire territory of the Russian Federation.
Laws and other legal acts adopted in the Russian Federation shall not contradict the Constitution of the Russian Federation. ".

That is, no laws can not undo the privacy of correspondence once for all.
Otherwise - is illegal.

Post has been editedMegaboson - 29.07.19, 17:59

Not shrink, if you send a photo as a document;)


No, WhatsApp transfers files of any size up to 100 MB in size, including videos.

Post has been editedharmonic74 - 30.07.19, 17:54

Firstly, you can answer on your tablet or computer through the web version Vatsapa. Secondly, like as already solved this problem:
WhatsApp to get rid of the main shortage
Third, the plates are gradually dying out, replaced by more PHABLET.

Post has been editedharmonic74 - 31.07.19, 13:13

Telegram not tried it, but judging by the fact that know about it, desire does not arise. If try, the more of interest, its practical use in the circle of my communication is very doubtful, except for some specific tasks, the problems of a particular group of persons. On the one hand, it is really good for its some features done, such as the possibility of editing posts, independent work on different devices and the like, it is appreciated in other messengers. But much of the rich set of features needed rarely if ever necessary only to users with special needs. For example, how many times a year, the average user will want to send via instant messenger file larger than 100MB? Or what percentage of users do not have enough web version and need a native version for Linux? Also, in my opinion, Telegram with their channels, bots, huge groups and the media capabilities climbs into the territory of social networks, websites, cloud storage, and others. Services. And it is necessary to climb messenger? The developers ignore such popular items as the Russian language in the set and video. In addition, with respect to the RF Durov climbed into the bottle and ran to the lockout. Over the first clumsy attempts to lock laughed, but as a result is now on Google Play, see Telegram support answers to user complaints for July:
"Unfortunately, Telegram continues to be blocked in Russia, so it works intermittently. At such times, you need to wait, or to enable the proxy."
And the site telegram.org just will not go. Yes, advanced users and those who really need the special features Telegram, certainly will put the Russian language and bypass blockages. And the rest is to make stupid can not or do not want. Therefore, the main problem of the messenger - the lack of popularity, and will not be solved. Therefore, most likely, in Russia, he did not become a mass means of communication, while remaining a favorite tool of IT specialists and advanced users, or people with specific needs.
Meanwhile, WhatsApp sells primarily massively popular features - video calling long-running, audiozvonkov quality is quite decent, with zero Russification issues, transfer of files of any format for a long time and did have increased to a reasonable 100 MB. The problem of independent parallel work on different devices is also achieved. The interface is simple, easy to use and logical, work stable, moderate consumption of resources (Viber and Skype eat more), no unnecessary frills. And there are no issues with the locks.
Vatsapa expected integration with Facebook and Instagramom. Do not know whether this is good, because himself specifically by these social networks do not use, but a telegram possible to rely on the two large social networks there may therefore conducted an attempt to develop their own environment.

Post has been editedharmonic74 - 01.08.19, 11:54

harmonic74,
But are not programmers, mostly.
Because in Votsapp users more, and to lock telegram was more.

Yes, programmers and geeks - it is only a small portion of users (but very active and noisy in the internet). Moreover, I have many friends computer users, including programmers, but I have not heard that one of them used Telegram, at least no one I did not call him. A pair of elderly advanced acquaintances praise for the son and put the Telegram 2 years ago, they porassprashivat me a little about him and eventually sit in WhatsApp and OK :) Another friend, to work closely in the internet, holds Telegram for several contacts, but the main chat he also conducted in WhatsApp. In short, my friends rely mostly on WhatsApp, Viber, Skype, BK et al. Social networks, ICQ, even at work, but that's Telegram almost floats.

Post has been editedharmonic74 - 31.07.19, 16:00

No matter what steeper. What matters is where you communicate. So far, the majority of people in Votsape.

And what is generally measured coolness? If the Pontus, the shadow policy vulnerabilities and backdoors, they are both very cool), it's hard to determine the winner, though probably more viber will be for them a worthy competitor. Although Telegram is interesting for its functionality and channels (as a social network). Why do I need WhatsApp do not understand.
Well this is another category for the definition of "coolness", although it is doubtful that even something as reliable, but rather the opposite.
I suggest to look for who is steeper in other categories
Now among these messengers

Post has been editedHappy life - 07.08.19, 20:50