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In this topic will be published all the messages on the comparison of the performance of all generations of the iPhone on different processors.

The essence of the problem
The iPhone 6S and iPhone 6S Plus as well as some other (iPhone SE, etc.) generations are equipped with TSMC and Samsung processors. It is believed that, despite the same performance, devices with a TSMC chip have better autonomy.
How to find out which processor is installed
Method 1. Without activation. Mac OS + Xcode + CPU Identifier is required.
Method 2. With the helputilities from the app store.
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Apple iPhone 6s:
- N71AP - Apple Samsung A9
- N71MAP - Apple A9 manufactured by TSMC

Apple iPhone 6s Plus:

- N66AP - Apple Samsung A9
- N66MAP - Apple A9 manufactured by TSMC
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I came across such an info that the processors in the iphone 6s / plus produce either samsung or TSCM. Well, respectively, between them there is a small difference in power consumption. I looked for similar information about our device, but found nothing concrete. Tell me who knows what or where to read.
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This is true, tscm is 3-5% more economical, but the difference is tiny, so drive
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Rjabkov @ 11.02.2016, 11:37*
This is true, tscm is 3-5% more economical, but the difference is tiny, so drive

there the difference is less than 2%, it is noticeable only in synthetic tests, in fact there is no difference at all


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* rjabkov, , * blyer
And how do you know which phone is installed? For the sake of interest and common development.
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* guestss,
http://youtu.be/h2EIFafl2P4, 2: 27-2: 40, 4459 vs 4413
http://youtu.be/vQgu9xTspfU, 0: 27-0: 45, 4458 vs 4419
http://youtu.be/TbBCjcco67I, 4: 01-4.11, 4467 vs 4442.
If you want - I can still throw it up, the result will be the same - there is no difference in performance. I do not know how you slowed down your iPhone with tsmc, but do not mislead people.

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If you want - I can still throw it up, the result will be the same - there is no difference in performance.

I watched these videos too. The fact that the processor from Sams is faster is a fact. Whether this difference is noticeable in everyday life, I am not ready to say that 2 iPhone 6s with different processors are not available. But what caught my attention, if I did not confuse anything:
1. Video # 2https: //www.youtube.co...TspfU&feature=youtu.beTime in the video 4.50-5.15 when video is collapsed, such lags from TSMC against the background of the Samsung, for me, a less autonomous Samsung is better.
2. Video â„–3https: //www.youtube.co...co67I&feature=youtu.betime in the video 2.57 - 3.35 when the temperature is measured, and according to the video, the processor from Samsung heats up less, which contradicts such articles:https://www.iphones.ru/iNotes/491278
Therefore, I would not be surprised if some version of IOS comes out, where the processor frequencies will be cut off or ....., and Samsung will come out according to some parameters in front and the people, turning everything upside down, will now look for an iPhone with a processor from Samsung . : girl_cray:: D Because, according to the manufacturing process, Samsung is more technologically advanced than TSMC, the parameters were initially prescribed to it better, but in fact it turned out differently, and the reasons for this are not yet known, so what will happen next, time will tell. IMHO: D: thank_you:

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Cemen90284 @ 02.18.2016, 09:00*
Samsa is faster fact
in your head it is possible, but no authoritative source wrote about it. The fact that the tsmc life time in some of the tests above, many have written, about the difference in performance - no one.
1.) Animation lags are already the norm with the release of ios 7. You can take two identical sixes and they, too, will behave differently in the same places.
2.) Temperature measurement should be carried out strictly in one place, and not poking anywhere. And you need to do it at the same time, and not with a gap of half a minute - aluminum cools quickly, as it heats up. In addition, according to tests, the difference in temperature does not exceed 2-3 degrees, which makes it even harder to notice the difference.
Cemen90284 @ 02.18.2016, 09:00*
cut the processor frequency
what Since the time of the first iPhone, this has not been and never will be. Engineers eppl not in vain eat their own bread and make perhaps the best cooling systems in the phones, allowing the processors to work without throttling even at maximum load.
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Samsung is more technological than TSMC
maybe you should read the materiel? The tsmc chip is smaller, because there is an honest 16 nm. The samsa has a terrible mix of 14 and 20 nm, and once its area is larger, it means that 20 nm prevail over 14. So it’s ridiculous to call a percent of samsa more technological and 14 nm.
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* Cemen90284,
I am more interested in why with repeated (repeated) testing, sams begins to lose parrots ...

Posted on 02/18/2016 10:10:

The chip from tsmc is smaller, because there are fair 16 nm

Actually, the tsmc chip is bigger!


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Chip from tsmc is smaller

It is just more due to the greater technical process.
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maybe you should read the materiel? The tsmc chip is smaller, because there is an honest 16 nm. The samsa has a terrible mix of 14 and 20 nm, and once its area is larger, it means that 20 nm prevail over 14. So it’s ridiculous to call a percent of samsa more technological and 14 nm.

I think you need to read it and generally learn to read. The area of ​​the processor from Samsa (14nm process) is smaller than the area of ​​the TSMC processor (16nm process)
And now the first prerequisites for the fact that the chip from Samsa is energy efficient (I personally, no matter what the percentage, I just use the phone, this is to cool down some and calm others down :)http://www.thg.ru/phone/iphone_6s/index.html
Samsa has a terrible mix of 14 and 20 nm.

Perhaps, but not where I have not met about it, if there are links, please provide it.
Engineers eppla knowingly eat their own bread and make perhaps the best cooling systems in their phones.

Smile, I think (I hope) you know how to read and write (iPhone search engine marriage (about slick screens, everyone heard a lot, on many models, they were also created by Apple engineers), here's one of them (and there is about your cooling system)http: //www.macdigger.r...soby-ix-resheniya.html
I am not an ardent fan and fan of Apple, I just use it.
At this debate, I end.

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The tsmc chip is smaller, because there is an honest 16 nm. The samsa has a terrible mix of 14 and 20 nm, and once its area is larger, it means that 20 nm prevail over 14. So it’s ridiculous to call a percent of samsa more technological and 14 nm.

Well, all your arguments and conclusions are about the fact that the processor from Samsung is just 10% less ...
Have you ever seen them in your eyes?

And what's the mix, where does the information come from?
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I wrote here about comparing the autonomy of two processors
http: //savagemessiahzine.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=689340&st=2900#entry45656148

As for performance, in the process of using on the phone with the TSMC processor, native applications (photo album and messages) were crashed several times, this did not happen on the Samsung. I don’t know if this is related to the processor, just sharing my experience :)
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* guestss,
In the first test it surpasses, and after 7 times in a row, why does it start losing parrots, can someone explain?


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Ask the same question a bunch of times. Explain hardly anyone can. There are only our assumptions that the processor heats up and begins to throw off the parrots for that very reason.
I remember that it was you who abandoned 3 copies from TSMC in favor of Samsung, or am I confusing something?
It makes sense to score, but it makes sense to change the device, since this question has been floating all this for a long time. But then again, the lottery ...


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I remember that it was you who abandoned 3 copies from TSMC in favor of Samsung, or am I confusing something?

No, do not confuse anything! The way it is! It was just then that Sams was spoken for better, then tsmc, now it’s not at all clear! I think 6S need to sell and buy 7: P


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Well, 7ka will only be with TSMC :) but again, guessing early, another 7 months of waiting.
By the way, I remember very well the time when everyone just shouted that the N71 (66) AP is better, but it turned out to be the opposite.


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but it turned out the opposite

There is no single answer, yet: sveta:


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I had 6s for 16 GB with a tsmc processor. Changed to 64GB got Samsung. It seems that there is no difference.
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A little later, clearly notice the difference.


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* glassofwhiskey,Already two weeks have passed, until I noticed: happy:
And what should have noticed?

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