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Comrades, I want to buy a TV and Androyd console (presumably m8s + or minix u1), I also want to watch a 3D movie. The question is as follows:

Does 3D need support on TV? Or somehow you can implement 3D only with the help of the console, for example, buy some glasses that connect to the console? Those. if absolutely simple:
1) TV with support for 3D + prefix, the question in watching 3D disappears.
2) TV without 3D support + console, will it be possible to watch 3D???

If implementation is possible only on the console, then add some points to the console.

The complexity of the choice is that the difference between the absence and support for 3D is 5k rubles. Actually, the cost of the console.

P.S. I apologize if I made a mistake with the section, I did not understand where to post such a question.
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Good day forum users. I apologize in advance if my question is not in that section. The problem is as follows:
The father is blind, that is, the mouse on the desktop can not be manipulated. And here (in Latvia), some of the channels have been turned off. I want him to take a TV-Box, but I must do so in order to program the remote like on TV: the button and the channel immediately went. So without extra "gestures". Turned on the TV, took the remote and only on the buttons, between the channels.
So is it possible to do with TV Box on Android?
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* Sanders.msHow did you avoid splitting 3d vertically (displacement of one of the images due to the upper status bar of android)?
Let me explain, when turning on vertical 3D (according to reviews, it is more convenient for passive technology (LG, for example)) not from a flash drive, but from an android tv box (Beelink R68), a shift occurs. In addition to blurring objects left and right, there is a significant shift up and down (42 inches - 4 centimeters). Most likely the offset is caused by the top panel of the android, because It is incorrectly interpreted by the TV, switching to 3D mode, and is perceived as part of the upper half-image.
I understand that there are several fundamental decisions:
1. Somehow turn off the top bar. How to do it?
2. Use a special player that "muffles" this panel. Are there any players?
3. Reflash R68 to another firmware, in which this status bar is missing.

I say that I tried:
- several popular launchers did not solve the problem, the bar was present.
- Vertical stretching of the screen helped (by 5 points), but not in 3D mode, part of the screen goes beyond the tv border.
- it was written that everything is normal on a standard player, but I have not tried it yet.
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I also split everything from the console: hysterics: TV Lg. Cody went through the settings, other players ((
And so and so tried. Kick in the right direction plizz.
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Go shit downloaded with a ratio other than 16: 9? Rutraker such abounds
Either this or video is not full screen. I see no other reason.

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Yes, it probably is. Still, in Cody, I played with the sliders (scaling, etc.), it's normal, now it's watchable. ;)
Maybe someone has a bookmark site with 3d movies normal, share ...: rolleyes: (in a personal way you can).
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I do not agree that the problem is in 3d-rip, because through the built-in player, the TV shows the same movie normally.
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I do not agree that the problem is in 3d-rip, because through the built-in player, the TV shows the same movie normally.

Yes, I also agree with this remark. Also on TV everything is OK. Although maybe the built-in player somehow automatically adjusts the size?
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I do not agree that the problem is in 3d-rip, because through the built-in player, the TV shows the same movie normally.


Well, he go and stretches it godlessly. And the console tries to keep the original aspect ratio.
But, in general, why argue? Look at the resolution of the rip, and everything will immediately become clear.
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Dimonpdv @ 09/13/2016, 11:25*
Maybe someone has a bookmark site with 3d movies normal, share ...


With this bada. But if, for example, on thepiratebay to type in search 3D ou 2160p, then a lot of things are. Well, + a bunch of aggregators, such as torrentz.eu
You just need to carefully read the descriptions of what you download, and how much it corresponds to the capabilities of your equipment.
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I do not agree that the problem is in 3d-rip, because through the built-in player, the TV shows the same movie normally.

And the computer is normally 3D unfolds. Of the programs only code works. From the set-top box, the TV does not recognize 3D automatically, when manually switching on, 3D does not go correctly. In some cases, scaling or horizontal offset helps. ... so it looks like a software jamb. We are waiting for smart people ...
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For completeness, it should be noted that there are various encoding formats for 3D images in a media file, for example, the main modern ones:
- vertical stereo pair
- horizontal stereo pair
- 3D Blu-Ray MVC

The disadvantage of any stereo pair is that each eye does not have a full Full-HD (1920x1080) image, but a half smaller number of rows horizontally or vertically, that is, either 1920x540 or 960x1080
And only format "3D Blu-ray MVC"provides an honest Full-HD (1920x1080) resolution for every eye.
Description of MVC codec - here:
https: //en.wikipedia.o...Multiview_Video_Coding

But to support playing 3D Blu-Ray MVC format, you need it.processor hardware supportTV set-top boxes.
If you take an Android-based set-top box, these are the following CPUs:
- provide honest Full-HD resolution (1920x1080) per eye (from MVC):
Realtek RTD1295 / Broadcom BCM2837 / HiSilicon HI3798CV200
- provide only half resolution for each eye (from MVC):
Amlogic S8XX / Amlogic S9XX
- somehow support MVC, but it’s buggy and there’s no exact info in which resolution they display:
Realtek RTD1195 / Mstar MSO9180

- CPU:Amlogic S905X / S912- for the time being it was NOT possible to force the "3D Blu-Ray MVC" format to be practically reproduced, although in theory the hardware format in these CPUs is supported (and the 3D stereo pair in the MKV will of course work without problems, like on other procs).

- CPU:Rockchip rk3399: atofficial specification "Rockchip RK3399"onP.13- MVC codec support is declared (this is the format of 3D Blu-Ray discs), but as the real work of 3D Blu-Ray format in the system player and KODI is implemented in a specific firmware of a specific set-top box, this should be tested (and the 3D stereo pair in MKV will certainly work without problems, as well as on the other)

To support the playback of the "3D Blu-Ray MVC" format, not only does it have to be a CPU that supports it in hardware, but it also has to be a special player, for exampleKODIorVidOn XBMC

Extensive information about what TV set-top boxes on Android (on which processors) - how they work with the "3D Blu-Ray MVC" format in KODI - can be read here:http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=221407(220 pages on 10/21/16)

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But still, can anyone advise the console, which will support 3d Blu-Ray MVC full and will be worth the reasonable money?
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Yoga_15 @ 11.11.2016, 16:52*
and will be worth the money

here it is necessary to voice the budget more specifically, otherwise you know that the “acceptable” level of spending money is different for everyone ...


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* nessy74
yes, a little wrong formulated
I would like to play the full resolution of Blu-Ray 3D with the lowest price. That is, suppose if there are such consoles up to 10t.r.? To 5t.r.? Saw the Zidoo x8, costs about $ 110. Fits under the interval from 5 to 10t.r. But suddenly there are options :)
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Yoga_15 @ 11/08/2016, 5:05*
about 110 $

hang out here:Choosing an Android media player is more expensive than $ 100


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Support3D Blu-ray MVCISO / MKV on processors: AmlogicS905XandS912:

Official Amlogic Chips SpecificationS905XandS912in PDF format is not yet available (and even these processors themselves (as of 11/13/16) are NOT posted on www.amlogic.com), but according to unofficial information, 3D MVC support in these chips is.

In fact so far (on 11/13/16) on all models of TV set-top boxes on Amlogic CPUS912andS905X- support for playing 3D Blu-Ray MVC ISO in 3D mode via KODI 16.1 - is NOT possible, it is played there only in 2D so far (and even a stereo pair is not always output in 3D, you need to conjure).

At best, you can play the “3D Blu-Ray MVC” format and the “3D stereo pair H264” from the MKV container via the simple video player built into the system, but it does not support the ISO container format and has a number of limitations (the most critical of them is the lack of a license for audio decoding in AC3-Dolby Digital and DTS format).

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We look forward to further progress in this area, we observe and hope ...

Testers' comments - owners of 3D TVs and set-top boxes on the Amlogic S905X / S912 CPU - are welcome, Welcome!

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Chip specification known

S905 and S912 is only available on Chinese websites such as DVBCN, which interviewed by Gordon Pan, VP at Amlogic.

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Video Post-Processing Engine - Dolby Vision, HDR10 HDR Processing, HDR Processing, 3D Motion Reduction Adaptance, Advanced Motion Detection Engine, 3: 2 pull-down support, deblocking filters, etc ..
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Chip specification known

These pictures and texts from survey sites are not an official specification, but are scribbles with an unconfirmed source and accuracy of data.
All the pros have already seen these pictures a hundred times, there is nothing new here.
But the official document / specification is the manufacturer's Datasheet in PDF format.
This is how this file looks like for Amlogic CPUS812:
Attached fileS812_QRM V0.6 20140902.pdf(1.51 MB)

So, we are waiting for similar official PDF files of specifications for CPU S905X and S912.

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But the official document / specification is the manufacturer's Datasheet in PDF format.


It seems that this is so clear to everyone. The beauty of the situation is different - a purely engineering production document did not fall into open access. Conclusion - there will be fewer fakes based on this MCU.


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Especially not bothering to search ...S905_Public_Datasheet_V1.1.4.pdf

I also have a S912 ... attach a large brochure does not want a forum))

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