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Alcatel One Touch Y900NB - Discussion


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Specifications
Title:Alcatel One Touch Link Y900NB

Chipset:Qualcomm MDM9230

Maximum data transfer rate:
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LTE-A:
Download: 300Mbps
Upload: 50Mbps
UMTS:
Download: 43.2Mbps
Upload: 5.76Mbps


Supported ranges:
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2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz
4G FDD-LTE: 800/900/1800/2100/2600 MHz


LTE Channel Aggregation (LTE Advanced, 4G +):
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12 possible combinations
B1_B8,
B3_B3, B3_B7, B3_B8, B3_B20,
B7_B3, B7_B7, B7_B20,
B8_B1, B8_B3,
B20_B3, B20_B7


Wi-Fi:
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Chipset: Qualcomm QCA6174
Ranges: 2.4 / 5 GHz
Standards Supported: 802.11a / b / g / n / ac
Encryption: WPA / WPA2 PSK (AES)
Simultaneous connections: 32
WPS function: PIN, Push The Button (protected from brute force attacks and PixieWPS)

Connectors:
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USB 3.0 Micro-B, compatible with USB 2.0 micro-b
Micro sim
MicroSD maximum capacity is 128GB.
2x Hirose MS-156 for connecting external antennas


Battery:
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3.8V / 3600 mAh Li-ion
PowerBank 5V / 1000 mAh function


Dimensions:
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Height: 62 mm
Width: 89 mm
Thickness: 16.5 mm
Weight: 127 g

Additional functions:
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Management through the Adnroid / iOS application
Web Based Management
USB connection to computer (RNDIS Ethernet, Card Reader)
OTG host mode. Connecting devices to the router (Available after installing modules)
USSD requests
SMS sending
Unlocking for all operators
Currently, the Alcatel Y900 device is sold in Russia only by Beeline.
Initially, the device is blocked by the operator Beeline.

According to article 16 point 2"On Consumer Protection":
It is forbidden to condition the purchase of certain goods (work, services) by the obligatory purchase of other goods (work, services). Losses caused to the consumer due to violation of his right to free choice of goods (works, services) are reimbursed by the seller (executor) in full.


This means that if the device was acquired in Russia, according to the lawrequired to unblock at the request of the client.
To do this, simply contact any Beeline communications salon. Employees have access to a database in which an unlock code is recorded for each IMEI sold in the Russian Federation device. They can assure you for a long time that they do not have codes, and they cannot unlock the device. In this case, ask to call the manager of the salon and clarify information.

  1. Going to buy a device, take with you the SIM card of any other operatorNOT BEELINE
  2. In the cabin, insert the SIM card and turn on the device by holding the power button until the blue LED on the front panel lights up. Wait for the device to load (about 5 seconds)
  3. Connect to the WiFi network Y900NB_xxx. The password and the exact name of the network are written on the sticker.under the battery
  4. Visit the sitehttp://192.168.8.1Password from the paneladmin
  5. Enter the unlock code that you received from Beeline employees


Sometimes inexperienced employees take their time for a long time, saying they don’t know about any codes.
In this case, be categorical and demand a code until you give it to you.

The method is guaranteed to work and tested several times.

Method 2:
If for some reason you cannot get the code in the Beeline showroom, for example, the device was purchased not in Russia,
You can ask for the code in this topic:Here you can get unlock codes for modems / routers for FREE.
Or thishttp: //forum.gsmhostin…-only-here-v5-1914295/

Or google search "Unlock Alcatel One Touch Y900 ".
There are several services selling unlock codes for about 100 rubles.
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Hardware UART connection
The linux kernel is loaded with the parameterconsole = ttyHSL0,115200, n8 . Contacts / dev / ttyHSL0 are printed on the board and can be used to read kernel messages.
If the UART is needed only for reading debug messages, you can not solder the TX pin.
UART voltage: 1.8V. You can use any 3.3V adapter to read data from the RX port.
As the ground GND contact, you can use the metal part of the USB connector connected to the router. Moreover, if the TTL adapter and the router are connected to the same computer, it is not necessary to connect the GND contact.
To access the board, it is necessary to unscrew the four screws at the corners of the cover and pry off the back cover at the junction with the silver plastic case.
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Patch for firmware Beeline
Do not install software From the virtual CD-ROM that appears when the router is connected via USB.
You can control the router through the web interface, software is not needed for this.

The patch contains:
  1. Instead of a CD-ROM, the device connects as an ADB and RNDIS Ethernet adapter
  2. SSH server
  3. The function of enabling / disabling aggregation mode 7 + 7 with which there are problems in Megafon networks
  4. In the firewall closed ports SSH, Telnet, FTP on the WAN interface
  5. Removed Beeline styling from the web interface


Installation Instructions

1. Download the patch archive.github.com/zhovner/Y900-Beeline-improve/releases/
And unpack it into a separate folder.Do not run the files from the archive without unpacking.

2. Connect the Alcatel Y900 to your computer. The router must be turned on at the time of connection.
Wait for the virtual CD-ROM to appear with the Beeline software. Do not install anything from this disk.
Remember the letter of the virtual disk.
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3. Run the program TCL-SWITCH-TOOL.exe from the archive with the patch and enter the letter of the Beeline CD-ROM.
And press the buttonSWITCH: 0x16 0xF9 (degug)
The router will switch to diagnostic mode and three new devices will appear.
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One of them is the ADB interface through which the patch will be uploaded.
If windows did not find the driver for the ADB interface, install them from the Drivers folder in the archive with the patch.
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3. Make sure the ADB interface is installed correctly. It should have such parameters in the device manager.
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4. Start start.cmd and press Enter to start the firmware.
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5. When the patch is unpacked, restart the router with the power button.

Ssh details
IP: 192.168.8.1
login: root
password: oelinux1

The root password is better to change.


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The first "unstructured" information and estimates

Judging by the contents of NVRAM, the device supports
5 LTE bands:

B1, B3, B7, B8, B20

and 12 CA combinations:

B1_B8,
B3_B3, B3_B7, B3_B8, B3_B20,
B7_B3, B7_B7, B7_B20,
B8_B1, B8_B3,
B20_B3, B20_B7.

Without a battery it does not turn on, even break it. And who knows where?
is it disabled? Well, if somewhere "far" along the chain of loaders -
in APPSBL, for example. Yes, even if at least in the SBL - still remains
recovery method using point closure. But maybe
the same bit in qfprom is set ... then generally kapets: PBL with
The top ten teams will stop working. How to work with such
a piece, if you then restore it?

All the interesting CGI teams that worked on the W800 and Y850 are not
they work - moreover, in the worst possible way: they are carried out, formally,
without error, but nothing happens. And the web server itself, according to Alcatel
tradition, gives very little information about the network - yes, almost no,
Only those stupid crumbs that are in the face. What is there
information about the second carrier, aggregation ...

It was possible to take him to the mode with one diag. by the port. But this port is some kind of
wrong. QXDM doesn't want to show anything on the topic of the radio channel -
only, in fact, you can read and write NVRAM.
In QPST, however, you can backup NVRAM and other such things, but
current information about the networks, again, is not obtained.

With the help of the command 3A, sent to this port, you can go to download
mode. But NPRG9x25 does not start. A designed specifically for
I don't have 9x3x. And it is not known where to look.
It is possible that the loader just does not fit. But I do not exclude that they
SB is turned on here, and the bootloader needs a signed one. Unlikely
but I would not be surprised.

Scanning IP-ports on RNDIS was not done right away, but at the end
In the end, I still managed to do it. And here - a complete bummer: open
TCP only: 80 and TCP: 53. So here, "nowhere to turn."

Well, the last chord was the picture that I saw when I took out
fee. There, all cover-screens are soldered to death - they are non-removable. Pay
made very "cultural". It can be seen that it is "universal" for versions
with a muzzle and without it - there is a place for it and contacts. But what under these
lids, and how things are with the quality of installation, for example - it is unclear.
Yes, even the element base can not be seen: there is nothing outside, except
cardholders, LEDs, and a couple dozen components from small things.
"Pierced" with a needle, of course, all the pennies and conclusions of the elements on the subject
point search, but with a battery connected - on one side of the board only,
because it closes another (battery) when connected. Found nothing
of course. Yes, and did not count, especially - in Alcatel with this is usually a problem.
Look, the L850 and Y850 even have to clear the varnish from the board to get to
to the desired conductor. And here even to the place where it can, most likely,
be this point / conductor, you will not reach without removing these covers.

Yes, and the covers, in any case, are soldered from the bottom side of the board,
Generally, for good reason. They are in the assembled state, pressed against the metal
bottom plate (bottom inner cover), thus providing
additional cooling: from the chip through the board, one of these
soldered screens on the cover through such a brilliant “mesh” gasket.
If the covers were removable, then the efficiency of such a heat sink would be
extremely low. So the reason for this decision can be understood, but
From this - not easier.

In general, this thing is protected from "penetration" (and from the possibility
recovery in case of problems, respectively) more feasible
any HTC phone that is “famous” for such jokes.

I still have 2 ideas for trying to access the "software giblets",
except those already used:

1. Find the hardware UART contacts. In theory, they should be on the “heels”.
And, again, in theory, it should be a Linux console. I am a piece of dmesg from dump
His memory took out (Sahara in download mode allows), there the port is mentioned.

2. Remove, to hell, these covers and find the point. True, the point can be
and not find (Alcatel, damn it!) without damaging the device. And if the problem is
boot loader incompatibility, then ENPRG may not work, since
NPRG is not suitable. But in the end, you need to shoot. You can not see -
What is its element base? Interested, of course, in the first place,
implementation of the output / input circuits of the radio channel. What is it - "scattering" or
RF360? At the same time, and probe the elements: to reveal what is most heated.
Under the covers - you will not understand ...

Of course, you will have to solder the covers then - otherwise, it will always
will overheat. And if there is a point, then you can solder the wire to it,
drill a hole in the lid and take it out of it.

Oh, I forgot: it is unlocked just like the Y850.

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Cap theme, design, once the topic was released!

sorry I was in a hurry, I was excited :-(
and now I can’t arrange anything according to all the rules ...: blush:
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photos, etc.

And what's the point of copying other people's materials? Look: in most of the caps - photos, "pulled" from some external resource. Well even if from the site of the manufacturer or the operator performing the seller. And it happens that in general hell knows where ...
How are these photos and, in most cases, inaccurate descriptions of parameters taken from a site, better links to this site? And with copyrights in the case of links, again, the problems are much less, if suddenly ... And this is correct, in my opinion. Write a message - write what you think, you know exactly, describe what you did, you are going to, or you invite others to do. For everything else, in fact, links are invented.

Another thing is if a person uploads his own photos of the device, which he holds in his hands. This, indeed, can be very useful and allows you to consider the peculiarities of the modification of the piece of iron that you cannot find on the manufacturer’s and sellers' websites.
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when took out the board.


Post pictures of the board
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Post pictures of the board

See pictures. Although, in an amicable way, there is nothing to look at: everything is under the covers.
At the same time, in the photo of the bottom side I noted the points of connection to the UART.

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* vvevvevve,
Thank.
I was interested in the presence of MS156 connectors, everything is fine with them.
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4 antenna connectors - is it 2 on LTE / 3G (where the external ones are not unsoldered) + 2 on Wi-Fi?
How are the antennas placed in the case? Or did they manage to dissolve on the PCB?

Is the overpayment modem worth comparing to MR150-2 or is it better to wait for other Chinese (like ZTE) on this MDM?
Does USB3.0 work fine?

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I do not know whether the device is worth its money or not, but here is the situation in my office:

Megaphone:
Alcatel Y900: 45Mbps Down / 10Mbps Up
ZTE MF831: 14Mbps Down / 6Mbps Up

Beeline:
Alcatel Y900: 16Mbps Down / 2Mbps Up
ZTE MF831: 3Mbps Down / 3Mbps Up


Both devices were connected via Asus RT-68 router
According to the results of Speedtest, averaged and rounded over three dimensions.
Office windows look at the courtyard of the building st. Academician Korolev, p. 1, sixth floor.
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4 antenna connectors - is it 2 on LTE / 3G (where the external ones are not unsoldered) + 2 on Wi-Fi?

Yes. Just what do you mean by saying "LTE / 3G"? The main antenna for all radio access technologies is working, the additional antenna is for diversity or second carrier in UMTS and for the second MIMO stream in LTE. As usual, in general.
How are the antennas placed in the case? Or did they manage to dissolve on the PCB?

No, they are glued on the bottom inner lid. Connection to the board - using spring-loaded contacts (they are visible in the picture, in each of the 4 corners of the board).
Not to say that the ideal design. The Y850 was better done, although the principle is the same.
Is the overpayment modem worth comparing to MR150-2 or is it better to wait for other Chinese (like ZTE) on this MDM?

It all depends on what you want to receive as a result. The device began to sell only yesterday, so there is no information about the actual performance, except for the fact that the above wroteAdson, and what Sergey wrote in the review.
I can now say that so far I haven’t "penetrated inside", I did not get access to the Linux console in the device or to any other means of controlling the platform "seriously", although, as you can see, I have already reached the hardware UARTa. I think that when, finally, this access will be obtained, everything will continue to be not so simple there.
And the corresponding hardware from ZTE (MF970? MF975?), Of course, will be much more “manageable” and suitable for various improvements. The MF970 could be a bit cheaper than the Y900, and the MF975 would certainly be more expensive. But you think: who could bring them here? Megaphone already has a device of this class in the line. Beeline now also has, And MTS ... what can I say? Nothing to say, nothing to wait. You see - what kind of apparatus was made for them in ZTE (for certain, on special order - I have never met such a miracle anywhere)? But then at least rubbish, but ZTE. But after him - and in general some kind of kapets. The vector, so to speak, is clearly visible.

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There is an overpayment modem compared to MR150-2

I don’t see any sense in this ZTE in the presence of huawei 5776 and huawei 8278.
You see what kind of apparatus in ZTE was made for them.

What kind of unit? Like in mts solid huavei for lte?
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What kind of unit? Like in mts solid huavei for lte?

Far from it, unfortunately.
I was referring to the last two devices on sale this year: 833F / FT (ZTE MF90M) and 850FT (Unitac V-RL500).
Despite, let's say, different weight categories of manufacturers, both of these devices are united using a non-traditional Marvell development platform. These are very cheap chipsets, which, in my opinion, have no future, prospects.
And the second of these devices is also distinguished by an unusually disgusting appearance. Compared to it, even the MF910 or the same E5776 are simply unsurpassed technical design masterpieces.
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In general, everything - I got to his "offal". In sense, to the console, while in the form of adb shell.
It turns out that there is an easy way to do this, without any hardware intervention or such things.
I will tell you how to do this when I consider how to organize normal access through RNDIS on an ongoing basis.
Immediately known solutions are not suitable, because the “bundling” of Linux here is significantly different from what we see in the L850 / Y850 or in the W800 / Y800, for example.
And in general, there is a new (compared to other similar devices) kernel 3.10.0.
Traditionally, the tun module compiled in the kernel is not. The iptables extension module for TTL adjustment, on the contrary, is. But for some reason, iptables itself does not work at all.
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Interestingly, in Beeline will be sold model with LCD screen?
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Interestingly, in Beeline will be sold model with LCD screen?

I think no. That they would have to re-run all the declaration procedures, conformity confirmation, etc.
And then, that model would have to sell much more expensive. It is hardly reasonable. Even the Y850 for 3,500 rubles did not, to put it mildly, hit sales. A piece for 8 ... 9 thousand and in general will not be needed by anyone.
I even wonder: why, in general, is it possible in practice, “in life,” to use this screen? I consider it on mobile routers to be such a marketing “trick” that has no useful use.
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no useful use.

yes no, not very bad when the screen.
You can watch a number - the network at the moment, possible SMS at the moment, etc.
but this is all, of course, a service that you can do without.
And the screen is eating a battery, no doubt more than LEDs.


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Brought from Beeline online store, the first impression is an ideal router :)

- large removable battery
- very compact, noticeably smaller than e5786
- despite the compactness, I stood my test for reliable reception in band7 :) In a place where some devices prefer not to see the network, it showed -121 dB (0 divisions of the flow meter, alas, SINR does not show ...) and the speed is 12 megabits down, 0 , 5 up
- adapter to USB for charging other devices in the set, tried to charge iPhone 5s - it works
- A good SIM card slot, you can safely insert the nanoSim into the adapter, it will definitely not get stuck
- signal level and type of network without a screen can be seen even better, other parameters are in the mobile application, QR code with a link in the kit

If you still collect flaws, compared to e5786, then the first one is a smaller set of supported LTE frequencies: no band 38, of the FDD supported on the box is only band 20/3/7. But perhaps this is not the case: judging by the message from vvevvevve, the whole European FDD is supported
And the second - until (?) You can not switch the range of WiFi from a mobile application, only through the web

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this is the perfect router :)

happy for you, for this lava.
This router - will not go to the masses, in general, nothing for today.


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This router - will not go to the masses, in general, nothing for today.



He shouldn't go to the masses, but definitely there are no alternatives for the price for him in CAT.6 today, although I like the E5786 more, but it costs him accordingly!
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He should not go to the masses

Yes Yes.
and i am about it.


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