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Electrical Kalina II

ECU "m74CAN MAP". Commands for elm327I

Interchangeability of PPME
21900-3840080-11 Standard Standard + unit is not interchangeable with anyone
21900-3840080-21 block Priora 2 interchangeable with 20,40,50,60
21900-3840080-20 interchangeable unit with 60
21900-3840080-10 block interchangeable with 20,40,50,60

If IMMO beeps when the ignition is turned on and the car does not start
Write down the people or remember that then the same does not ask. If you turn on the ignition IMMO beeps and you have it in the instrument panel.
1. Beeps once - the diagnosis does not read the key.
2. Beeps 2 times - the diagnosis is no communication ECU - IMMO-TsBKE.
3. Beeps 3 times - the diagnosis is ready for learning the key.
4. Beeps 4 times - the diagnosis of the computer does not confirm the permission to start the engine, that is, either the key is dead or the key is “alienâ€

The algorithm of the fans Kalina 2, Grant from green-74, when an error occurs P0485
Considered error P0485 from current errors The ECM began to deal with the operation of the cooling system and air conditioner fans:
1) the first speed (K2 and K1 are snapped off, K1.30 and K1.88 NZ, K13 is on): "+ with acb" valve 12->K13.30->K13.87->K1.88 (and through DK 30/88 to K1.30) ->valve13 ->Weight. (at point K1.30 = 13.1, the ECM monitors the voltage, (must be 6V, provided the valves are the same))
2) the second speed (K2 and K1 are on, K13 does not matter because K13.87 = K1.88 hangs in the air): it turns out two parallel chains:
"+ with battery" ->valve 12->K2.30->K2.87->weight
"+ with battery" ->K1.87->K1.30->valve 13->mass (at point K1.30 = 13.1 The ECM monitors the voltage, (must be 12V)
3) when all three relays are off, the fans stand
An autopsy revealed:
1) On electrical circuits, the K1: NC relay is incorrectly drawn should be 30/88 contacts (as with all normal relays), and not 87/88 as drawn on the diagram
2) K2 and K1 are mixed up in the mounting block from the factory, K1 should be a five-contact relay, and K2 - four-pin, put the relay in its place (as it should be), everything works as it should, there are no errors.

How to reset learning ECU (initialization)
To initialize i.e. reset the ECU self-learning
1. Turn on the ignition, do not start the engine on the MMC, select "Learning reset", we hear the click of the main relay and the gasoline pump triggering, we do not turn off the ignition, wait 40 seconds while the sensors A and B of the throttle are synchronized.
2. Turn off the ignition. Everything can start and go !!

Initialization of misfire!
1. After the computer is initialized, we start the atoms. We turn on the second gear, accelerate to 4000 revolutions and do engine braking up to 1000 revolutions and so on 6 times. Who automatics procedure AvtoVAZ not provided!
2. All the initialization of passes is completed (as your favorite plant writes in the prescription so that there is no catalyst ignition on the car) I haven't done to anyone for 4 years more than one car did not burn.

How to disable the buzzer unfastened belt
single blocking (for one trip).
- turn on the ignition
- fasten and unfasten the driver's RB for no more than 10 seconds twice
a single blocking will be canceled if the subsequent ignition is turned off for more than 60 seconds.

long-term blocking
- turn on the ignition
- press the button on the front panel of the instrument cluster
- hold the button down, for twice within no more than 10 seconds, fasten and unfasten the driver's RB
the long-term blocking will be canceled if, with the ignition on and the button pressed, three times during no more than 15 seconds, to fasten and unfasten the driver's RB.

any blocking will be canceled when power is turned off according to cl. 30

prerequisite for the blocking procedure is a stationary vehicle (speed 0km / h)

ACC for MMS timer
Example of installing a rear view camera
Forced activation of the rear view camera
AT commands for HUAWEI 3G modems
Connect DVB-T2 to MMC
An example of installing USB HUB (for example, D-Link DUB-H7) and GPS receiver for Kalina 2
What to do if the SD flash drive stuck the wrong side of the grant
What to do if the SD flash drive stuck with the wrong side on Kalina II
ELECTRONIC CONTROL SYSTEM 16 - VALVE ENGINE OF CARS OF FAMILIES LADA GRANTA, LADA KALINA 2 WITH CONTROLLER M74 EURO-4 - DEVICE AND DIAGNOSTICS
How to connect CAN bus to MMS
Connection example of CAN bus to MMS from arsrenat

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pulsar_85 @ 06.25.2014, 09:15*
thanks, I'm still in deep thought ...

Got it
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ArkNet @ 25.6.2014, 23:56*
Be careful with burdocks. Lazhi on the sea market.
I perepayan "output" in this, I have chosen according to your taste.
Forward JBL GTO-528, behind put JBL GTO-6528.
And in front and behind a little bent metal. Landing places are not suitable a little (large magnets and a bend of metal on a burdock).
A warning:
Burdock 3 and 2 Ohms - without replacing the "output" is not set.In normal mode - 4 ohms.
I think hertz 130.2 to take .. they are just 4 ohms. And the sensitivity seems to be greater.

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pulsar_85 @ 06.26.2014, 01:45*
I think hertz 130.2 to take ..


And I set 130.3 to myself, through plywood 12mm spacers, of course I had previously made a complete shvi.
The sound is cool, although they began to play the non-linear sound at a volume above 50, but this is already on MMC’s conscience, it’s impossible to fix it without soldering.


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pulsar_85 @ 06.26.2014, 01:45 *
I think hertz 130.2 to take ..


And I set 130.3 to myself, through plywood 12mm spacers, of course I had previously made a complete shvi.
The sound is cool, although they began to play the non-linear sound at a volume above 50, but this is already on MMC’s conscience, it’s impossible to fix it without soldering.
And without spacers do not get up? I thought they would stand up regularly. I planned to change the speakers for now, and then how my hands would be glued with a vibration damper and noise insulation. Yes, and I have nothing to cut, no garage. no jigsaw, nichrome not ... I understand that for good it is immediately necessary and obeshumit, but I will do it gradually, as materials become available ...


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pulsar_85 @ 06.26.2014, 16:46*
And without spacers do not get up? I thought they would stand up regularly. I planned to change the speakers for now, and then how my hands would be glued with a vibration damper and noise insulation. Yes, and I have nothing to cut, no garage. no jigsaw, nichrome not ... I understand that for good it is immediately necessary and obeshumit, but I will do it gradually, as materials become available ...

A screwdriver pod plastic inserts with a regular speaker here's your regular spacers! : rolleyes:

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pulsar_85 @ 06.26.2014, 16:46 *
And without spacers do not get up? I thought they would stand up regularly. I planned to change the speakers for now, and then how my hands would be glued with a vibration damper and noise insulation. Yes, and I have nothing to cut, no garage. no jigsaw, nichrome not ... I understand that for good it is immediately necessary and obeshumit, but I will do it gradually, as materials become available ...

A screwdriver pod plastic inserts with a regular speaker here's your regular spacers! : rolleyes:
Well, if there is a subden :)


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Help to connect the camera s \ x, the whole brain broke already, in general there is a wireless rear view camera, the receiver of the signal and tulip connected to MMS without problems, but if you connect the transmitter directly to the battery everything works without problems (even the transmitter LED is off), I measure the tension with the tester when the ignition is turned on and the back comes 11.57 volts; wants to work from reversing contact when voltage is there? o.O
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pulsar_85 @ 06.26.2014, 16:46*
And without spacers do not get up? I thought they would stand up regularly. I planned to change the speakers for now, and then how my hands would be glued with a vibration damper and noise insulation. Yes, and I have nothing to cut, no garage. no jigsaw, nichrome not ... I understand that for good it is immediately necessary and obeshumit, but I will do it gradually, as materials become available ...


Without spacers, it is these that rise like relatives.

The meaning is different - plywood spacers need speakers to "play" so that there is no fastening on bare metal, because even regular spacers (plastic really ...).
And also - in order to minimize the gap between the speaker and the inner lining so that the sound does not go away, there is such a gap, which is different from above / below.
13 cm on sale I could not find, sawed \ painted himself.

For me it was harder to put twitter and crossovers.



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pulsar_85 @ 06.26.2014, 16:46
And without spacers do not get up? I thought they would stand up regularly. I planned to change the speakers for now, and then how my hands would be glued with a vibration damper and noise insulation. Yes, and I have nothing to cut, no garage. no jigsaw, nichrome not ... I understand that for good it is immediately necessary and obeshumit, but I will do it gradually, as materials become available ...


Without spacers, it is these that rise like relatives.

The meaning is different - plywood spacers need speakers to "play" so that there is no fastening on bare metal, because even regular spacers (plastic really ...).
And also - in order to minimize the gap between the speaker and the inner lining so that the sound does not go away, there is such a gap, which is different from above / below.
13 cm on sale I could not find, sawed \ painted himself.

For me it was harder to put twitter and crossovers.
Yes, about the fact that the metal also read that is not good. What gets up right is good, thanks !!


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svyatoi30 @ 06.26.2014, 17:03*
A screwdriver pod plastic inserts with a regular speaker here's your regular spacers!


I have them glued tight, could not tear.

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RusTrojan @ 06/26/2014, 6:56 PM*
I measure with a tester when the ignition is turned on and the back comes 11.57 volts.


Well, as an option - the transmitter lacks this 0.5 V.
In general, troubles with these wireless cameras, laying the cable under the rapids is not difficult. For all the same, disassemble and panel and trunk for wireless.

I had a wireless receiver-transmitter kit for 12V, punched 1.5 km in country conditions, only put it on trucks.


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I measure with a tester when the ignition is turned on and the back comes 11.57 volts.


Well, as an option - the transmitter lacks this 0.5 V.
In general, troubles with these wireless cameras, laying the cable under the rapids is not difficult. For all the same, disassemble and panel and trunk for wireless.

I had a wireless receiver-transmitter kit for 12V, punched 1.5 km in country conditions, only put it on trucks.
I laid the wire on the right side. and video and food. The camera all the time while the radio is on - is powered. But these are my own little ones ...


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RusTrojan @ 06/26/2014, 6:56 PM*
Help to connect the camera s \ x, the whole brain broke already, in general there is a wireless rear view camera, the receiver of the signal and tulip connected to MMS without problems, but if you connect the transmitter directly to the battery everything works without problems (even the transmitter LED is off), I measure the tension with the tester when the ignition is turned on and the back comes 11.57 volts; wants to work from reversing contact when voltage is there?

And on the established car try there will be 14.2 volts will work?
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Electrik83keep the scheme if it is not a secret in which city such strong electricians?
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Electrik83 if that is not clear, I write by hand on a quick scheme sketched.
COM - common contact unlocking and locking
NO - normally open contact
NC - normally closed contact

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svyatoi30 in your NC scheme, the locking contact is connected to the common unlocking contact, and in my NO instruction, the locking contact is connected to the NO unlocking contact. Where to find the truth)))?
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Electrik83Now it is clear what to connect?
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Electrik83 @ 06/27/2014, 12:16*
svyatoi30 in your NC scheme, the locking contact is connected to the common unlocking contact, and in my NO instruction, the locking contact is connected to the NO unlocking contact. Where to find the truth)))?

For your case, you need to do as in my scheme you have a circuit for connecting a regular lock to a slot, because it doesn’t always have 12 volts on a regular lock. This is done by the factory so that you can open and close the windows from the console with a regular one.
Do according to my scheme and everything will work, I do not put the first signal.

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svyatoi30 understood everything. Thank you so much!
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pulsar_85 @ 06/27/2014, 11:11*
I laid the wire on the right side. and video and food. The camera all the time while the radio is on - is powered. But these are my own little ones ...

You have a wired one and I specifically took a wireless one so as not to lay a cable

Svyatoi30 @ 06/27/2014, 11:13*
And on the established car try there will be 14.2 volts will work?

I tried it, it still does not help, I don’t understand why it doesn’t work from the back-up lamp wire, I already think to connect it via a relay, is there 12v in the trunk of the wire where it always hangs?
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svyatoi30 and tell me, please, in what place is usually the junction of these wires: in the door or near the main unit? And another question: the front door pull in order to flip off the leads of its power must be closed? I just didn’t open the door, I haven’t seen anything yet with my eyes.

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