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FAQ on the choice of components for the PC

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• In this topic we discuss only complex issues relatedwith the improvement of the existing computer. If you need to select a separate component -ask in the relevant topic
  
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How to ask for help in upgrading

Dear visitors, please follow these requirements to assist you:

• Describe the complete configuration of your PC, including the case model and monitor
  
• Describe what you lack in the current PC, what you want to get in the end
  
• Budget for upgrade, store, city

If an upgrade is planned from used components from Avito, OLX, or other sites,you will need to look for such components personally, since it’s impossible to go through all the options in search of the right one - it’s difficult and time consuming. Links to the found options can be laid out in order to choose the best of them.
Thank!

useful links

• Does it make sense to put a solid-state drive in an old computer?(Opinion Kingston)
  
• SSD: the best upgrade for an old PC?
  
• Installing SSD in a system with SATA 3Gb / s | Is there any reason?
  
• SSD or 8 GB of memory - looking for ways to rational upgrade
  
• Strategy and tactics of easy modernization of the finished system with practical illustrations
  
• PC assembly and upgrade guide
  
• Scott Muller - Upgrade and Repair PC(Very detailed. For lovers to read)
  
• New life of the old computer or what to do with the outdated "iron"

For advanced:
Some platforms on the 775 socket allow you to install server quad-core Xeon processors on a 771 socket, which are very cheaply sold on Chinese marketplaces. However, there is still a risk that something will go wrong - mainly due to limited support for motherboards, BIOS firmware, modified firmware, and socket damage during preparation and inaccurate installation of the processor. Further information can be found on the links below:

• Mod XEON LGA771 (Server) =>LGA775 (Desktop)
  
• ideafix.name 771mod
  
• Installing Xeon 771 in socket 775
  
• LGA 771 to 775 Adapter (MOD) - Run faster Xeon CPUs in a Core 2 Quad motherboard

Topics on the choice of components

• PC cases
• RAM (RAM)
• Selection and discussion of video cards
• CPU selection
• PC motherboards
• HDD selection and discussion
• Selection and discussion of SSD
• PC power supplies
• Uninterruptible Power Supply (UPS)
• Discussion USB / flash drives
• PC cooling
• Selection of network equipment
• Keyboards, mice, gamepads
• Monitors
• Discrete sound card
• PC acoustics
• Printers, scanners, MFP
• Iron reviews
• Modding your computer case
• What is the configuration of your computer?
• Overclocking talk
• Windows os
  

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Post has been editedstp101 - 27.03.19, 20:05

[pasha_550]

[email protected], 22:55

and network how? too, no, or yes?

Problems with the network can not remember. Probably go.

[email protected], 22:55

Regarding the USB controller, the familiar adminit since 1995, said it would do, I believed =))

I remember that the controller on the nec chip did not work even on the 815th chipset - I think pci ver.2.2 was written on the box, and I earned it on via 6212.

[pasha_550]

[email protected], 22:55

USB controller model Via Tech 3038 pci-usb (as defined by it at boot), but on the chip writes VIAUSB2V270-L

And there is nothing else on the chip? Can I have a photochip?
Here are some drivers:http://www.wimsbios.com/forum/topic10269-15.html#p49509
For the future - drivers for flash drives for Win98:http://forum.ru-board.com/topic.cgi?forum=81&topic=0678
Threat It was a breakthrough ...))

Post has been editedpasha_550 - 14.06.13, 20:31

Reason for editing: else

[trafic777]

pasha_550
controller earned =))
only God knows how to set firewood, but it works, stuck a flash drive, and then I was asked to gently and caressing more firewood for a flash drive ...
I will put nusb32r.exe at once
file takes only 744kb. and in it all the wood for flash drives ....?

[pasha_550]

[email protected], 21:40

file takes only 744kb. and in it all the wood for flash drives ....?

Well, in the same place in the cap, everything is written. Yes.

Here isin the topic of version incompatibility. Last but onefastingthe same controller is mentioned. If everything else about him is true (VIA VT6202 chip), then the driver for it ishere: http://www.viaarena.com/Driver/VIA_USB2_V270p1-L-M.zip

[trafic777]

[email protected], 20:04

For the future - drivers for flash drives for Win98:http://forum.ru-board.com/topic.cgi?forum=81&topic=0678

I put everything according to the instructions, but when I try to connect a flash drive, ask for a driver.
what to do?

[pasha_550]

trafic777 @ 06/15/2013 11:30

what to do?

I do not remember that faced with problems. Try to do it again. Is it worth 98 or 98se?
Find another memory bar at 64 (better than 128) and you can install XP:http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314865

[trafic777]

Pasha_550 @ 06/15/2013, 10:50

Find another memory bar at 64 (128 better) and

Actually doing it! food on the radio market, buy two strips of 256MB.
but I plan to put ubuntu Lobo 8.04 or something else before ...

Pasha_550 @ 06/15/2013, 10:50

Try to do it again. Is it worth 98 or 98se?

It is worth Win_98SE, the action is repeated again, I saw several old flash drives, but the new one refuses to determine.
another question about the HDD, the master who drove the percent, said that for this configuration, max. possible hard drive capacity is 8.6GB
and called why, damn it, I did not remember, he called a feature of hard drives of this type, and called three letters some kind of abbreviation.
In general, the question is, should I buy HDD for 40GB, or my mother will not see it, as mentioned above?

Post has been editedtrafic777 - 15.06.13, 11:05

[pasha_550]

trafic777 @ 06/15/2013, 12:05

I will buy two strips of 256MB.

Do not do this - judging by the manual, a maximum of 2 strips of 128M each. And strips d. For a certain density, search with 16 chips (for a 128M bar). There will be problems with others.

trafic777 @ 06/15/2013, 12:05

In general, the question is, should I buy HDD for 40GB, or my mother will not see it, as mentioned above?

Most likely, the BIOS will see only 8.4 GB, this is his problem. )
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/ObС‘m_zhestkogo_diska
Further options are possible: either patch the BIOS or spit and formatted using the operating system (there is no 8GB limit).

[trafic777]

Pasha_550 @ 06/15/2013, 11:38

2 strips of 128M.

Sorry did not read this post before buying =)
I bought 2H256Mb. sees only one bar ...
strange, but in the program CPU-Z displays only one slot, the second, as it were, not at all in the system?
what's the problem after all HEREIt is written that max size 512Mb.
Maybe there is a waymake all memory workor so in win_98 determines.
Or go to return the RAM?

Post has been editedtrafic777 - 15.06.13, 16:11

[pasha_550]

trafic777 @ 06/15/2013, 16:29

what's the problem, because HERE is written that max size 512MB.

HERE is an unofficial site, anything can write. All the necessary information is in the manual to the board.

trafic777 @ 06/15/2013, 16:29

strange, but in the program CPU-Z displays only one slot, the second, as it were, not at all in the system?

This is m. cpu-z or chipset problem (for example, it does not see more than a certain number of banks). You can try to understand the reason for a long time, but it is not worth it.

[trafic777]

In general, the topic is closed!
Comp resurrected, everything works. But the question after all this is why I did it, I myself do not know: blush: it was just interesting;)
ResultsLAN cardPCI SureCom EP-320-X-R1 started up, I only had to poshamanit with firewood
USB controllermodel Via Tech 3038pci-usb(this is how it was determined at boot time), but VIAUSB2V270-L also worked fine on the chip, but only 5 ports work with 5 ports. (Why, I don’t think so)
As a result, we got an old clunker, from which I could go to Google, and look at .avi-shku (X-Files), there’s also a bit of digging in the files of the former owner of this computer, although I don’t know the owner ...: D
Got pleasure!
I want to thank pasha_550 and Korday, for help in the subject!

Post has been editedtrafic777 - 15.06.13, 21:52

[DsrnjhXjhyjlsl]

Good day to all!
In general, the fact is that in the course of a year I fed up a lot of gold and saved up some money.
And since The PC is a bit outdated (and now the house is suchhttp://hard.rozetka.com.ua/ru/products/det...536/index.html)
, and I play on the settings just above the lowest, because it has a very weak graphics card for graphics tasks.
And I see two ways to solve the problem:
1) Replacing the "narrow throat", namely the video card for thishttp://hard.rozetka.com.ua/msi_n650ti_tf_2gd5_oc_be/p270516/#tab=characteristics
(GTX 650 Ti, but another question is whether the PC can pull it without power failure, and compatibility with other parts of the PC)
2) buying a new car, namelyhttp://hard.rozetka.com.ua/impression_z731...characteristics
Which kmk is good characteristics, but there is one BUT. I got the name of the video card of the supposedly new PC in nete and it turns out that it is also not so hot. Is it so? mb someone has the same card as it shows itself in the work?

And now I am plagued by vague doubts that it is better .... because I still want to buy a new PC, but what's the use if it will be as old as video possibilities?
I ask, if you have time to help with the choice)
IMPORTANT
- ts fumbles in the gland in the average user category, mb a bit more
- I don’t really want to collect another configuration computer for the same money, i.e. I do not want at all)
-If you change something in the old PC, then only the video, I do not consider it necessary to spend money on it, IMHO, it's better to buy another probably
Thank you in advance for all the answers, the pros are implied)

Post has been editedDsrnjhXjhyjlsl - 22.06.13, 11:52

[Shoore]

DsrnjhXjhyjlsl @ 06/22/2013, 12:51

nafarmil much gold saved up some money

So much money or some? Maybe multi_gold translate into multi_deg?: D

DsrnjhXjhyjlsl @ 06/22/2013, 12:51

still want to buy a new pc

Do you want a ready-made solution? In my opinion, it makes sense to assemble from components. Orby myself, or pay this service in the store.
Request for selection of components is better to ask here.Build a gaming PC


Posted on 06/23/2013, 15:19:

DsrnjhXjhyjlsl @ 06/22/2013, 12:51

If you change something in the old PC, then only the video

You can buy only video and, if the computer does not pull the desired level (and he does not pull, kmk), buy the rest of the stuffing with the new map.

[nustek20]

Good day!
Please throw some practical advice on the choice of components. For this I will be grateful!
And so, first of all, I ask you not to laugh, the computer is relatively old :) but for the torrent rocking cope for 2 years already, online.
Options:
link to motherboard, it seems to begigabyte.com, NIX.RU
(I will probably attach screenshots from CPU-Z and AIDA-64)

The essence of the purchase of spare parts, purely sport :) I have a friend. admin, he has the same comp, only percents are weaker than stump 4 at 3.06GHz. I do not know what vidyaha, i generally 2 GB. RAM, on this config MacOS lives quietly, what version of it I do not know, but the point is that it lives and quite quickly!
I also want to try to put it on my stump 4 with such configs in the screenshots, and if there is an opportunity to upgrade a little, then do it and then upload MacOS
Now the question about the processor, or rather the mother, on the basis of information on the off. the site of this mother, there is no support for dual-cores ???! why I ask, my mother was the same as this one, shorter than two drops of water, but only the second chipset from MSI and so on, also as in the first, put some kind of two-core device for fun, and he earned! although off The site did not indicate support information.
Now I’ve also read that for living a MacOS you need not a bad video card, here AGP-8x (sort of) advise several options, (from fatty ones to more budget ones) I honestly lagged behind iron.
In general, like an epilogue, I’m worried about the processor, is it possible to replace it with a more productive, and not a bad video card, since currently worth integrated.
I ask you not to propose throwing the computer through the window, it is still not a rarity, for the torrent the rocking will come down, and if you can still kill the MacOS, you will deserve an honorable place for me :))
If you have mastered reading this button accordion, then you will advise me a stack of iron :)
Thank you all for the help! Thanks to me in turnips rely!

Post has been editednustek20 - 28.06.13, 18:56

[KOT-BE3DEXOD]

USTASFRITZZZ,

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Here isNVidia & ATI (Post # 23149586)your first. Choosing a video card? So the first message, where necessary. ;) Here - this is offtopic. Your post has been deleted.

[Korday]

nustek20,
Well, at the expense of vidyuhi, then you can ATI X1600; . You can take a good cooler and overclock our old man to 4 GHz (on the old HT there is more). It is important to take 2GB of operational and even DDR2. More information can be about your board, the manufacturer can not understand.

Post has been editedKorday - 29.06.13, 19:55

[nustek20]

Korday @ 06/29/2013, 19:35

More information can be about your board, the manufacturer can not understand.

If about the motherboard, then the model GA-8VM800M-775link
It seems it is, a photo under the spoiler.

Korday @ 06/29/2013, 19:35

take 2GB of operative and yes even DDR2

I doubt that you can DDR2, a maximum of 2GB but DDR1.

Korday @ 06/29/2013, 19:35

Nvidia GeForce GT7800 GS is pretty powerful (was) for AGP 8x (the most powerful for AGP)

And there are no analogues? it is her (this model, well, I can not find)

Korday @ 06/29/2013, 19:35

You can take a good cooler and overclock our old man to 4 GHz (on the old HT there is more)

I agree! HT is on, but what about it, without it, in principle, I did not see a difference
Processor drive, up to a maximum of 3.56 GHz. then artifacts and falls begin (in short, gifts), the cooler is solid, I think percent. just do not chase, I do not know stepping, revision, and so on, in short, not all processors are identical =)) but sorry .... I saw the video as the same percent. How I drove up to 4 GHz. but is it not my case ... =))

[Korday]

nustek20,
your chip has DDR2 support. At the flea market from MSI and so on, see: D, you can take the ATI X1600.

[Korday]

Nustek20 @ 06/28/2013, 21:54

fill in MacOS

please tell me why you need it? : blush:
So did you change the voltage when the processor was driven?

Post has been editedKorday - 30.06.13, 20:24

[nustek20]

Korday @ 06/30/2013, 20:16

your chip has DDR2 support

that is, do you mean to buy 2 DDR-2 strips of 1GB, PC-3200 400 MHz ...?
will there be a difference between them (productivity) ... now it costs DDR-1 PC-3200 400 MHz
To be honest, I did not quite understand you, in the manual to the mother he writes about the RAM as follows:
Type of supported memory: DDR SDRAM PC2100 (DDR266), PC2700 (DDR333), PC3200 (DDR400)
Officially supported memory standards: PC-3200
Max RAM: 2 GB