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Post has been editedsam1984 - 30.12.12, 14:26

[ifolder]

Got a phone, I understand.

First impressions are pleasant: in the hand was not so big, it looks very neat.

A photo:

http://shot.qip.ru/00bprL-318HME8te6/
http://shot.qip.ru/00bprL-318HME8te0/
http://shot.qip.ru/00bprL-418HME8te1/
http://shot.qip.ru/00bprL-118HME8te2/
http://shot.qip.ru/00bprL-418HME8te7/
http://shot.qip.ru/00bprL-418HME8te5/
http://shot.qip.ru/00bprL-418HME8te4/
http://shot.qip.ru/00bprL-118HME8te3/

Ativ S 16 Gb
Firmware Version: 8.0.10211.204
The version number of the firmware: 2424.12.11.7
Hardware Version Number: 15.15.10
Software Version: 2424.12.11.5

Post has been editedifolder - 02.01.13, 10:13

[Uncle]

ifolder,in the fifth photo he was scratched. : blush:
Is the Windows button mechanical?

[ifolder]

It is not scratched, just the texture of the back surface is like that. As if handled with a metal brush. So in general, more or less, apparently just a view of this turned out.

On the front side, it looks strange at all. Color wet asphalt under glass :)

The button is mechanical.

Also, unlike Omnia, the search button is just a search in Bing, you won’t get on the Internet from there. Have to use the explorer tile. Although it is possible, these are all features of the Amerikos version.

What else from the first impressions: I thought the optimal size of Omnia, now after Ativa is perceived as a matchbox: Ativ seems to be more optimal.

I am writing now with it, it feels much more comfortable to write and read than with Omnia.

I figured out the search button: when you change the country to Russia, Bing appears on the browser page with an input line, in a European country - instead of the input line 2 keys - a guide and a reality scan.

Post has been editedsam1984 - 29.12.12, 16:53

[Vinogradoff-95]

ifolder,
Oh cool, I also think of myself this somewhere after the New Year holidays to take, in place of the Galaxy Note. How is it generally in general? (Toys, work speed (interface optimization), battery)
Does it support USB host? Is it hot when in the access point mode works?

Post has been editedVinogradoff-95 - 29.12.12, 19:49

[mkpy]

Vinogradoff-95 @ 12/29/2012, 20:38

How is he generally in general? (

This is not an android background, so everything you asked for, as well as on WP8 devices from other manufacturers. The difference may be in the sound, camera, and pre-branded software from Samsung, if any.

[ifolder]

Vinogradoff-95 @ 12/29/2012, 18:38

How is it generally in general? (Toys, work speed (interface optimization), battery)
Does it support USB host? Is it hot when in the access point mode works?

In general, everything is fine :)

About toys I will not say deployed for he himself is not a gamer, but I think that everything should be a bundle.

The speed of work on sensations is significantly higher than that of Omnia W, the previous smartphone from Samsung on a vinfone 7.5. Although those who have used this phone already know that everything is fine with speed. So: Ativa feels still faster and downloads applications and content from the Internet.

Optimization of the interface, as already noted, within the operating system. Who used, that in a course. Yesterday, however, he gave the phone a twist in the hands of connoisseurs and owners of Android, so they said that the interface is not very intuitive compared to Andryusha. But they did not hear anything about the existence of Winfon OS. So I think this is a subjective opinion.

From the pre-installed applications from Sams can be noted:

ChatOn - Samsung's global mobile communications service.https://web.samsungchaton.com/

Now - weather, news, tweets rendered on a tile on the main screen

Family Story - some kind of shnyaga from Samsa, which allows you to store and share photos with your family -http://www1.familystory.com

MiniDiary is a diary that allows you to insert photos, videos, sound from a microphone and publish it in various social networks. By the way, unlike the previous version on
Omnia W has the opportunity to add info from Vkontakte diary and tweeter. Livjurnal does not work yet, apparently due to the lack of an official application.
Another of the fun features that have appeared is the ability to write and draw with your finger in a diary -http://shot.qip.ru/00bqCm-2169kK9FLR/
Unfortunately, while it is written only with a finger, a rod, including a metal one, it did not work.

Music Hub -http://www.musichub.com/- music store. You can buy all sorts of new things for a dollar.

Photo Editor is a photo editor. I don’t dare to say how full it is with functions, because I use more professional programs like Korel, but there are a lot of options. You can take photos directly from it, while providing an opportunity to reshoot before saving. About photos later.

I also want to mention separately the program, which are not Samsung, but can be useful.

Maps -http://f2.s.qip.ru/169kK9FLS.jpg- Unlike the previous version, Omnia W now has the ability to download maps of regions (apparently due to an increase in property) and use them offline. Maps pave a route, roughly like Google with a written description and show traffic jams, as seen in the photo.

Skype - Skype really works in the background: you can not turn it on at all. Calls come as normal, and messages as SMS. Strong thing.

PS Yes, about the back cover. It really looks like a metal with a rough treatment: yesterday, one friend of the grinder "took pity", says, - Let me give you her grinding :)

PS2. Compared to WinFon 7.5, a feature appeared to make push messages silent (mail does not wake at night). Does not apply to Skype messages.

Vinogradoff-95 @ 12/29/2012, 18:38

battery)
Does it support USB host? Is it hot when in the access point mode works?

Feels like the battery can hold 1.5-3 days with an "average" load.
Photo status (used net, calls as usual, photo-video shooting):http://f2.s.qip.ru/169kK9FLX.jpg
In this case, the full charge was 8 hours earlier, the amendment occurred due to connecting to the computer via USB lanyard.

USB support. Screenshots of how this is displayed:
http://shot.qip.ru/00bqCm-2169kK9FM1/
http://shot.qip.ru/00bqCm-1169kK9FLY/
http://shot.qip.ru/00bqCm-4169kK9FM0/

The last screenshot shows that when you install the Skydrive application on your computer, foty which made the camera automatically loaded on the computer through Skydrayv. One thing: they have a lower resolution than the original. I made photos that at the output weigh 4 megabytes, and about 300 Kb were sent to skydraive, trimmed.

Not heated in any scenario. Until.

There is one advantage over other Vinfons: Samung has built-in call blocker - Blacklist -http://shot.qip.ru/00bprL-118HME8te3/In Nokia and HTC there is no such thing. Moreover, the most interesting is the information that this function is not available to third-party software vendors. That is, it is not clear how Samsung implemented it.

Post has been editedsam1984 - 30.12.12, 17:43

[sam1984]

ifolder,Where did you buy, how much did it cost, 16 GB?

[ifolder]

About photos.

In the camera, as in the Omnia W, there are photo and video settings, but already more advanced:http://f2.s.qip.ru/169kK9FLW.jpg

- Focus mode
- Stabilization
- White balance (choice of lighting conditions)
- ISO
- Exposure value
- Effects
- Auto Contrast
- Resolution (8 sizes available)

All the following pictures were taken at the stock (automatic) settings.

Photo indoors without lighting -http://shot.qip.ru/00bqCm-3169kK9FM4/
Photo indoors with lighting -http://shot.qip.ru/00bqCm-1169kK9FM6/
Photo indoors with flash -http://shot.qip.ru/00bqCm-3169kK9FM5/
Comparison with a photo taken by a Sony NEX-5 camera under the same conditions -http://shot.qip.ru/00bqCm-4169kK9FM7/

Photo against the sun -http://shot.qip.ru/00bqCm-3169kK9FM8/

More photos:
http://shot.qip.ru/00bqCm-4169kK9FMa/
http://shot.qip.ru/00bqCm-3169kK9FMb/
http://shot.qip.ru/00bqCm-2169kK9FMc/
http://shot.qip.ru/00bqCm-4169kK9FMd/
http://shot.qip.ru/00bqCm-1169kK9FMe/
http://shot.qip.ru/00bqCm-3169kK9FMf/
http://shot.qip.ru/00bqCm-2169kK9FMg/

I want to note that up to this point I took all the photos without paying attention to the fact that a transparent film was not removed from the lens :). Further without film.

Photo made without zoom:http://shot.qip.ru/00bqCm-1169kK9FMh/
Photo taken with maximum zoom:http://shot.qip.ru/00bqCm-4169kK9FMi/

It is also worth noting that with Ativa you can take pictures by touching the screen: a touch initiates focusing on the subject and takes a picture. Same thing in the video.

Video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH0Co5UvaLc
Video made with maximum approximation -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p4aVvX8sDA

More videos. Accidentally made without removing the protective film from the lens, so there is a small effect of light refraction and haze when shooting against the light -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XrRTrs3-QY

The camera does not allow you to zoom in during the video - any touch of the screen stops the video.

Vertical shooting: initially the file is obtained in a computer lying on its side, but after sending to YouTube it is corrected to a vertical orientation -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7ajCPmzzJI

Zune phone does not see. Photo, video, music, playlists and ringtones can be transferred to the computer from the computer through the explorer or synchronized through the programWindows Phone for Desktop(for Windows 7 or Windows 8)

[email protected], 16:58

Ifolder, where they bought, how much it cost, 16 GB?

Bought on Ebay from an American dealer.
$ 679.99 + shipping $ 48.00 + VAT with customs clearance 21% $ 153 = $ 881 = 26,700 rub

Not cheap in general, as it turned out, but when I ordered I did not know that I would have to pay VAT.

By the way, while writing and counting I found a funny feature with my native vinfon calculator: when you put the phone horizontally it turns into a scientific one. But now I tried on Omnia - there is the same thing.

Post has been editedifolder - 02.01.13, 07:27

[Uncle]

[email protected], 18:08

make push messages silent

And earlier in the settings it was not regulated?

[email protected], 19:29

a touch initiates focusing on the subject and takes a picture.

Also not news, at 7.5 it is.

[ixorek]

920ka in total thought or all the same ativ ... ativ is more like, but there is little response.
for finding out defects still a little time has passed, but as soon as you,ifolder,find something negative about the device, write :)

[ifolder]

Uncle,

Yes, before, it all happened too.
As for the messages, as it was remembered at the initial settings, something rushed into my eyes, although it may have been mistaken.

He began to write in more detail because the person took an interest, it seemed, not using a vinfon.

Posted 12/30/2012, 21:43:

[email protected], 20:31

negative

From the negative, I can note that due to the large size it is difficult to hold and poke a thumb on the screen with one hand. especially in its lower part.

[ixorek]

ifolder,
920 is about the same, so is it all so :) for the strap there are holes? how is the screen? is it not faint in the street, is it not too bright in the dark? Touch screen, are there any false positives? Harvar button, is it convenient?
what else to ask :)

[sam1984]

ifolder,it depends on the size of the hands, I cope calmly with Titan with one hand.

[zanoza867]

[email protected], 22:31

920ka in total thought or all the same ativ ... ativ is more like, but there is little response.

With all my love for Sams and hatred for Nokia, I would rather buy the 920th than sams. And not by the fact that a particular sams is bad. Just a specific Nokia is good (which only means the optical stabilizer in the camera and the actuation of the screen to touch gloves ... besides, as far as I know, the quality of communication in Nokia is better).

[ifolder]

[email protected], 20:48

for the strap there are holes there? how is the screen? is it not faint in the street, is it not too bright in the dark? Touch screen, are there any false positives? Harvar button, is it convenient?

there are no holes for the strap

With the screen of difficulties and inconveniences have not been: it is necessary to automatically adjust the brightness. There were no difficulties in the street under different lighting conditions

Touchscreen without problems, can be compared with Oinievsky.

The physical button is convenient. Because of the large size, the search button does not “cling” when accidentally touched, as in Omnia, when it is necessary and when it is not necessary: ​​there it is remembered it was annoying.

I still haven't figured out the voice functions: with a long press on the physical button, they are supposed to be initiated. When I click it, it sends to the settings "to control the download of files", I put all the jackdaws there, but nothing loaded, it seems. Pressing the button again repeats everything.

There are some mysterious 2 holes. One on top near the audio jack (seen in the photo in the header) and the bottom of the micro usb jack. Microphones?

Another of the features: SIM card slot is made for micro sim. The usual Simka does not climb there.

zanoza867 @ 12/30/2012, 8:58 PM

what is the cost of the optical stabilizer in the camera and the actuation of the screen on the touch in gloves ... besides, as far as I know, the quality of communication in nokia is better

optical stabilizer
gloves touch screen does not work.

Another difference from Omnia: there is no section "High accuracy", which includes all sorts of sensors and Glonass. About glonas never a word.

M

Edit your posts and write so that I don't stick them all the time!

Post has been editedsam1984 - 30.12.12, 22:47

[LeoL00]

zanoza867 @ 12/30/2012, 10:58 PM

... of which there is only an optical stabilizer in the camera and the actuation of the screen for touching gloves ...

At the expense of gloves ... - a dubious option. I can hardly imagine how, without taking off the gloves, to get the device out of my pocket, cover, or even out of the bag. Yes, and the likelihood of false positives tach, certainly higher when you turn on this option.
Also, I do not understand how wireless charging is better, say, the same cradle. And I don’t want to carry half of the transformer with me in the apparatus.

... there is an optical stabilizer ...

ifolder, but with this neponyatka. As far as I understand, optical stabilization is only in the Lumia 920. Or am I wrong?

... There are some mysterious 2 holes. One on top near the audio jack (seen in the photo in the header) and the bottom of the micro usb jack. Microphones? ...

Probably yes. Just the top microphone, this is the noise-mike.

Post has been editedLeoL00 - 30.12.12, 23:52

[ifolder]

LeoL00,
The stabilization option is exactly in the camera settings.
I already laid it out in 10 post in the form of a list of camera settings.
But can we say that it is exactly the same "optical" as Nokia does not know.

[zanoza867]

[email protected], 01:45

The stabilization option is exactly in the camera settings

Digitalstabilization ... Rubbish, not an option.

LeoL00 @ 12/31/2012, 00:39

At the expense of gloves ... - a dubious option

Sometimes you need to read / send SMS, use the navigator - in the winter it is more convenient to do it with gloves, and somehow still for false presses.

[ifolder]

zanoza867 @ 12/31/2012, 7:48

Digital stabilization ... Rubbish, not an option.

Judging by a number of external signs, the camera in the phone is similar to the Galaxy S 3, but with a slightly reduced functionality.
As for stabilization, or how it is called anti shake in English, judging by the video, this is not such a garbage:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zep0umsYNw

But in Ativa, I don’t know how in Gelaxi, this stabilization is only in the photo settings, there is no video in the settings.


I finally figured out the voice functions. After another change of language settings from Russian to English and back, the Russian language files finally loaded. Now you can voice the command: Open (application), call (name), enable (application), send a message, write a message. In this case, the female voice after the execution of the action phrase is duplicated.

When activating the message reading function, the phone can read incoming messages:
- is always
- when connecting Bluth and headset
- only Blutuf
- Only wired headset

Voice commands can also be sent to the native wired headset while listening to music by pressing the button near the microphone on the cord, for example:
- call Fedya
Phone asks: Call Fed on a mobile or a worker?
- On the mobile phone
the phone says: next time you can say call Fedya on your mobile

or

- call Alexander
phone: too many matches Alexander, specify your request
- call Alexander Konstantinovich
phone: Alexander Konstantinovich is called

Conveniently, you can call without getting the phone out of your pocket.

The sound quality of the native wired headset is like.

Post has been editedifolder - 01.01.13, 20:25