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In this thread, we breed holivar on Android vs. WP8 / W10Mobile
Who is promising?
Who has a brighter future?
Who will conquer the world of smartphones?

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Reason for editing: Major windows phone major update
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Vangrieg @ 09/11/2012, 00:41*
Hmm, where does the information come from?


well, ok, Win32 and WinRT adapters for some Hidden API

Vangrieg @ 09/11/2012, 00:41*
but it was clearly not worth it, IMHO.


I agree, if WP7 was a temporary fix to delay a little time before they finish the work on W8. A bit cynical it really looks.
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coldfire @ 09/10/2012, 21:35*
but why would it be able to run with comparable performance? Only if you significantly increase the power of iron, and make a bunch of crutches (the same JIT). And if you do not provide something like NDK, then generally goodbye to complex programs and games. There will also be an impact on the reliability of programs (in scripting languages, a banal typo will pop up only during program execution). So the software platform affects both the architecture of the OS and consumer qualities.
Again you cleverly went away, without answering the main question :) Well, ok, apparently I will not wait for an answer.


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coldfire @ 09/10/2012, 16:59*
Acceleration includes the developer, with a bunch of features coming out, artifacts on a complex design. With shaders, something does not work as if acceleration was disabled. You can forcibly turn on the system and see for yourself.

I have never personally encountered bugs in hardware acceleration (neither in the canvas, nor in the ogl). Of course, I am not everything, but at least once the bugs were supposed to slip on this glucroid droid: lol:
coldfire @ 09/10/2012, 15:15*
Well, what is not an argument, for some reason, a virtual processor with its opcodes is emulated on top of real hardware, so that low-skilled programmers can introduce non-disableable checks and fully automatic memory management.

without palea, they crap all Java programmers: D

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that you drift on to dalwick. its performance will be enough if your application does not need the calculated power, but you just need to quickly and easily create an interface (client to social networks, calendar, widget, etc.). if speed is critical, then in your hands
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coldfire @ 09/10/2012, 21:53*
A bit cynical it really looks.


Well, even if I guessed that something like this would happen, anyone who was interested could also.

And then, given the number of tasks that they are now simultaneously solving on all fronts, it is easy to imagine a banal lack of resources and time.


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Scalar @ 09/11/2012, 01:05*
Again you cleverly walked away without answering the main question.


answered several times - heavyweight basis. For a mobile platform, this is a disadvantage.

G @ sh! Sh @ 09.11.2012, 01:13*
without palea, they crap all Java programmers


study logic, wrong conclusion

Vangrieg @ 09/11/2012, 02:00*
Well, even if I guessed that something like this would happen, anyone who was interested could also.


I did not guess, honestly. I thought they had already determined the general direction and will continue to cut silverlight, and NDK in some form will appear later.
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coldfire @ 09/11/2012, 07:05*
answered several times - heavyweight basis. For a mobile platform, this is a disadvantage.
I replied that this is not the case and current performance is lacking only for games, so they are written on the NDK.


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Scalar @ 09/11/2012, 09:14*
current performance is not enough only for games


And with office applications, everything is fine, right?


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Theri0n @ 09/11/2012, 07:41*
And with office applications, everything is fine, right?

Are they there? There is a clipping of office applications in the form of Google Maps and skydrive, they work quickly enough.


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Scalar @ 09/11/2012, 10:46*
There is a clipping of office applications in the form of Google Maps and skydrive, they work quickly enough.


It’s impossible to compare googleod with office 365. It's like a motorcycle wheel ride with Maybach.

In the bucket there is not and never will be something digestible and really working.


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Theri0n @ 09/11/2012, 08:50*
In the bucket there is not and never will be something digestible and really working.

Strange. A lot of people enjoy and enjoy. I changed the android to iPhone, because I no longer need all his capabilities. I can’t say anything bad, where did you get such hatred for the operating system?


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Theri0n @ 09/11/2012, 08:50*
It’s impossible to compare googleod with office 365. It's like a motorcycle wheel ride with Maybach.
Well, I do not argue with that. How do the lack of a full-fledged office and my phrase about productivity generally relate?


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Yes, there is no hatred. Just eating. } -)

If I so hated, I would hardly have walked with a two shovels on a bucket and did not exactly lick the project head.

Just bucket, motofan and vendekaptsy - very tasty food. And given their social characteristics in general, a delicacy.

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coldfire @ 09/11/2012, 07:05*
I did not guess honestly


This is simply because Microsoft is not interested in you and you do not follow the news. And they were enough to understand.


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Theri0n @ 09/11/2012, 09:05*
And given their social characteristics in general, a delicacy.

It is possible in more detail, otherwise I got tired of reading the same thing in 10 different topics, even though something new.
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80% of vedrodaysov users and 99.5%vedrofanovThey have last year’s flagships or topical budget - in any case, their ceiling at a cost is $ 500 per phone.

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coldfire @ 09/10/2012, 11:53 PM*
I agree, if WP7 was a temporary fix to delay a little time before they finish the work on W8.


And there is. It was necessary to give something away after the removal of the tool, but the main idea has not yet been implemented.

coldfire @ 09/10/2012, 11:53 PM*
A bit cynical it really looks.


And buckets up to 2.3 are not cynical at all?


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Scalar @ 09/11/2012, 11:04*
How do the lack of a full-fledged office and my phrase about productivity generally relate to?


The absence of such applications in the bucket is, to a certain extent, a consequence of performance problems.


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Theri0n @ 09/11/2012, 9:47*
80% of vedrodaysov users and 99.5% of vedrofans have last year’s flagships or actual budget cards - in any case, their ceiling at a cost is $ 500 per phone.

And what is the feature of something? that all owners of iPhone 4s will change it to the fifth, at least with the arrival of 4s this did not happen. If I do not see a mobile phone that will satisfy my needs much more, why should I change my phone?
Theri0n @ 09/11/2012, 09:54*
And buckets up to 2.3 are not cynical at all?

I started using 2.2, I did not notice much difference from 2.3, maybe because it was originally on miu.

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I'm not talking specifically about you. You specifically may be an oligarch with geek inclinations. I am talking about the bulk of velrofans who buy phones only after their price falls below $ 500. And the needs are not in the first place. In the first place, the desire to join the world of "immobility" is cheap.

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Spartanez06 @ 09/11/2012, 12:00*
I started using 2.2, I did not notice much difference from 2.3, maybe because it was originally on miu.


And with 4.1?

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Theri0n @ 09/11/2012, 10:04*
I'm not talking specifically about you. You specifically may be an oligarch with geek inclinations. I am talking about the bulk of velrofans who buy phones only after their price falls below $ 500. And the needs are not in the first place. In the first place, the desire to join the world of "immobility" is cheap.

What's bad about it? in my opinion, only in Russia is the desire to acquire something cheaply considered something shameful or something, although the situation is beginning to slowly change. Yes, and somehow one-sided, i.e. what people bought for cheap dead nokii on vf7, is it not a desire to join the world of “immobility” cheaply? Or is it another social feature?
Theri0n @ 09/11/2012, 10:04*
And with 4.1?

Unfortunately, there is no 4.1 for my device yet, and I don’t like other firmware, so I don’t presume to say.

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Theri0n @ 09/11/2012, 09:54*
The absence of such applications in the bucket is, to a certain extent, a consequence of performance problems.
In fact, this is simply a consequence of the uselessness of a full-fledged office on smart cards.


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What's bad about it?


Absolutely nothing. Just this category of problems with self-esteem and general neuroticism. It makes her the most delicious food.

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Scalar @ 09/11/2012, 12:13*
In fact, this is simply a consequence of the uselessness of a full-fledged office on smart cards.


Let's talk about it in a year.


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