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Ramos W13PRO, Orion TP800
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Post has been editedEnlightened grandfather - 13.07.16, 16:49

Added a review and some pictures of it in the cap.

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Post has been editedPUHH123 - 24.05.12, 03:00

Excellent device. Having ICOO D70W (7 "1024 * 600, yesterday sold it) and Teclast P85 (8" 1024 * 768), make sure that 8-inch format - best mobile tablet. He would have aluminum casing, as in the Teclast P85 ... Dual-core processor, though made at a relatively modern 40 nm process technology, can decently warm. Teclast P85, I think, not least thanks to the aluminum housing, is one of the few tablets on Allwinner A10 platform, capable to stably operate at a frequency of 1.2 GHz. It remains to wait for him in sales and see the real prices. W17Pro costs surprisingly cheap; this device is, of course, has a number of additional functions and should be more expensive, but the preliminary price of $ 200 as something not very impressive. For 160-170 dollars (its real price), it will be an excellent suggestion.

Good apartment. If ips on 8 inch were ... here would be happiness ... I will ask tomorrow a friend from China. More precisely, he calls me that))) dear friend))) maybe he will be cheaper. He said, for your friends from russian forum will do discount)

NicolasG, I wrote in a hat that its price in China was $ 143, for 2 days on taobao The number of sellers has grown 10 times (from -1 to 10: D), one has already sold 4 pieces, a few more for one ... So, nothing prevents you from ordering a tablet through numerous intermediaries who take an average of 10% - many have a calculator, so it goes for $ 180-210, depending on the method of delivery.
I am stopped only by a temporary lack of money :(

I wonder what this means? : happy:

As for the "IPS" screen, the online-store online stores, as always, were "slightly exaggerated" ... As for the battery with an allegedly 5000mAh.
In general, it is a pity that so far 8 "IPS-matrixes have not started to release ... Apparently some technical difficulties.

Despite all this, an interesting novelty. I would soon appear on Ali, I want to order it as an alternative to the W17 Pro, compared to which I am pleased:
• screen size and resolution
• battery life
• HDMI availability
• presence of touch buttons
• Colour
and not happy with the presence of the rear camera (what for?), it would be better if the front 2Mp was made (for video communication).
Another frustrating lack of bluetooth. Well, yes, this too can be reconciled. :)

I have to ICOO D70W such a matrix was. Trying to find online what these things mean. As I understand it, this means only that the matrix is ​​enclosed in a "sandwich" of two glass plates. Instead of plastic. In theory, this means a little better picture quality, due to the fact that there will be less distortion - Glass transmits light better. On the other hand, the matrix will be more brittle. The matrix is ​​usually ICOO TN - not bad, but the stars from the sky is not enough. I would say 8 "Teclast matrix better, better viewing angles, better contrast, brightness slightly higher.


No technical problems with the release of 8 "IPS does not have screens. If desired, manufacturers can easily produce 8" IPS screens. The only thing the majority of 8 "screens" unconventional "today the aspect ratio of 4: 3 and not 16: 9. Or 16:10 The fact that the liquid crystal matrix is ​​not produced individually, and the" cut "of a large workpiece, conventionally, it is possible . make four matrix 8 "1024 * 768, but you can - one 16" 2048 * 1536 screen with an aspect ratio of 16: 9 and 16:10 from a single blank is greater than 4: 3 screen, so the cost of the last above this,. rather than the mythical "great convenience" is primarily due to the dominance of today's widescreen LCD matrices. in the days CRT monitors, remember, this was not here, is more profitable to do IPS matrix 7 "16: 9 rather than 8" 4:. 3 - the first to be significantly cheaper IPad If not, now would not be such a dominance of matrices 9.7. "1024 * 768 4: 3. Just iPads produced a huge amount, and requirements for the screens Apple has the highest - dead pixels, for example, should not be at all. Apple requires a standard matrix A +. But the percentage of defects still exist - and these matrices are for inexpensive Chinese tablets. If you are lucky, the screen can not really be worse than the IPad. Now that the IPad 2 is gradually disappearing, the number of Chinese tablets 9.7 "1024 * 768 will also reduce (but over time there will be 9.7" 2048 * 1536 - but they are expensive and require a very powerful GPU).

I agree. Among other things, this camera also needs a special case that would not close it. In general, the back camera in the tablet is not needed. But better frontal - welcome. Here I am impressed by the Ainol approach, but only in top tablets, Elf and above - one front camera of 2 MP. Compare front-facing cameras ICOO D70W (1.3 MP) and Teclast P85 (0.3 MP, VGA). The first clearly won.

Strange that Ali is still calm - not a single proposal, even pre-sell. At Pande only recently appeared original Ramos W13 - not too tasty for the price of 160 dollars. For comparison, the 16 GB 1 GB RAM Teclast P85 with the same screen (as a minimum) cost me Ali delivery Singapore post a little less than 150 dollars. And then 8 GB 512 MB RAM. However, a processor Cortex A9, the same Mali-400 (it is possible that running at a lower frequency), there are touch-sensitive buttons (not the fact that they need to Teclast key individuals), two speakers located sloppy (at Teclast, like it turned out, the speaker also 2, they are located more clumsy) has an IR port (I think) and a separate connector for charging (this is useful in Teclast I miss him). But in the Teclast aluminum body that is very positive effect on the thermal regime. In general, the price is clearly inadequate. Again, especially in the light fantastically low real prices for Ramos W17Pro, actual delivery of $ 120, and even slightly lower, proving itself in SoC device is inexpensive.
Ramos W13Pro, of course, is much better than Ramos W17Pro:
Screen 8 "1024 * 768 vs. 7" 1024 * 600
The battery is 4000 mAh vs. 3200 mAh (but, it seems, not promised 5000 mAh, unfortunately. 4000 mAh is also stated in Teclast, really - 3900 mAh, judging by the photo disassembly, it is possible that there will be the same thing).
2 cameras against one, but the front is the same - dubious
There is an infrared port - this is to control the device as a multimedia player. In principle, it is useful if the console will be bundled, otherwise, again - a dubious advantage
There is HDMI - this is a clear plus, but the cable in the kit will still be forgotten.
A more pleasant design (subjectively), there are touch buttons (so-so advantage, I had the ICOO - they only interfered, the hardware buttons on Teclast - it's more convenient for me, and I won't accidentally click)
It seems I have not forgotten anything. It seems to me that these advantages do not pull on the price difference of a good $ 50.
Slowly starting to dream aboutMOMO8 Speedalthough I like the W13Pro. But at a price of up to 170 dollars with delivery, no more.

Post has been editedNicolasG - 25.05.12, 09:15

One thing is -here. But as always, there are some "but"))). First, the seller is somewhat dubious. Secondly, the same "pre-sell" (presale), they promise that before June 1, they will have tablets for sure. Well and thirdly, the price is too bent for this model.


Perhaps there will be modified firmware a la "full screen" (i.e., without the bottom panel of the 4th android, which takes place, after all), then these buttons will be very useful.


I do not know any Chinese manufacturer who would put the hdmi-cable in the box to the tablet by default. :)


Absolutely agree! And the "good 50 dollars" is the minimum, especially in the first time. We will wait for the price reduction to $ 170 on Ali, including delivery. For some reason it seems to me that it will not be long to wait, and at least it will happen faster than the actual sales of tablets on the RK3066 (referred to as MOMO8 Speed), the prices for which are likely to be overestimated even more in the first time than on the AML8726-MX (considering the current cost of the W17 Pro).

Post has been editedIceArms - 25.05.12, 10:02

NicolasG, G / G, in contrast to G / F (glass / film), is more durable, transparent, etc. And this is not about the display, it's about the touch

As for IPS, small Chinese brands are not ordered by themselves, they use leftovers from "brands"
9.7 "from the iPad, 7" from the Samsung and others. 8 "Alas, there is no branded IPS (arhos 80 g9 and xoom2me are not ips), so the Chinese do not have it - this is not the technical side, but the financial one :)

Post has been editedPUHH123 - 25.05.12, 10:10

Yes, indeed, I was looking for Ramos W13Pro, as it is called the manufacturer and the seller called him Ramos W13 Pro. But, in any case, the proposal dubious: US $ 261.76 with delivery, while at the Pande chic Cube U30GT worth $ 218.99 for pre-order with delivery. Let it will have to wait a month and a half. But HD IPS 10,1 "screen and Rockchip 3066, the normal front-facing camera, 7,200 mAh battery. Unfortunately, it seems to me that the 10.1" too much for mobile devices, although many will disagree with me.

Yes, I already use such firmware on Teclast P85. For this, he has 3 normal buttons on top: "home", "back" and "menu". Personally, the touch buttons on the side of the screen are not convenient for me - you need to try not to hurt them while working. Although you can put up with them and get along.

With Aurora and Elves cable was included. And then the manufacturer builds an IR sensor, which is specifically designed for the remote control. Those. The tablet is deliberately positioned as a multimedia center that needs to be connected to the big screen. Cable bundled would be logical, I think. But this is all the lyrics.

Yes, maybe you're right - it's about the touch. Although manufacturers stubbornly write the screen. Honestly, I did not notice that the ICOO had a glass surface. However, I did not scratch it.

NicolasG, about the price ...
For example, the price of Ramos w17pro is 699 yuan ($ 110), which we see on Ali ->free delivery: rolleyes: $ 135-140 (that is, in fact, +25 ... $ 30), EMS - $ 155-160 (+45 ... $ 50)

Ramos W13PRO - 899 yuan ($ 142), i.e.must wait about $ 170 with free shipping and $ 190 EMS

We look at Ali ... aha here are already 3 sentences
1. 168+31.55=199.55$(rank post cal meil)
2. 195.88$freeshipping: D (rank fast mail meil)
3. 170.68+26.32=197$(rank of post meer) or 170.68 + 59.51 =230.19$(EMS)
The next week, people still tighten and the price tag will fall!

Post has been editedPUHH123 - 26.05.12, 04:37

What is the difference between RAMOS W13PRO and RAMOS W13 not PRO.
I just came here I can not figure out xy of xy))))
And there is nothing in the information about the device like in the photo above, you can’t find anything at all and google the account to not write anything ...
In general, I will wait here for someone more advanced, with such a tablet.

Post has been editedTiomyich - 30.05.12, 22:35

The W13Pro has a dual-core processor with a frequency of 1.2 GHz and a "dual-core" Mali-400, 1 GB of RAM, in the W13 without a Pro 1 GHz single-core processor, a single-core Mali-400 and 512 MB of memory, if I'm not mistaken. They look identical or very similar.

in appearance, they mean exactly identical, I most likely have no pro ..... Information can not find a pancake.

W13 Pro is still not really available, except in China, and even then it is unlikely.
W13, in principle, is not bad, but it lacks a little 1 GB of RAM, although, according to some sources, there are also such options. The processor is installed Amlogic 8726 AML8726M-M3, Cortex A9, it is better than Amlogic 8726 AML8726M-M, because made on a thinner process, has a better frequency potential and does not require a 7.4 V battery, but naturally worse than the Amlogic 8726 AML8726M-MX, which has two cores and an improved integrated GPU.

Tiomyich, In the caps at the very bottom, there is a link to the review of ramos w13 not pro, the forum has a branch about w16 - also hardware (different firmware!), another building, of. firmware here

Post has been editedPUHH123 - 31.05.12, 03:09

Yes, I have no touch buttons.
I bought<a href = "http: //www.invalidablelink.com / es / ramos-miumiu-w13-8-multi-touch-android-40-8gb-tablet-pc-p-53726.html "target =" _ blank ">HERE</ a>(link does not open something, only through Google search if ...)
The main thing there, too, with touch buttons is drawn and I have nothing, the screen with the knee glass, only the camera on the face ... It’s only now that I noticed the difference))))

Did video reviews for this small online store.HEREand furtherHERE. If anyone is interested.

Post has been editedTiomyich - 31.05.12, 20:34

Tiomyich, I looked now more attentively, on all the real pictures of the touch buttons you can not see either the W13 or the W13PRO - so most likely they don’t, especially since they are not very necessary for the 4-way android.

Thanks for the link to the firmware, I finally installed the appropriate version of the flash player ... I am downloading the latest firmware (speed of course 7 kb / s))))) while downloading, it will be new, and there is some installation instructions, poke your nose Please, the atoms there are all Chinese ... I understood that it is just being installed from the card and something about switching to the installation mode, so the button is on and the volume +

Post has been editedTiomyich - 01.06.12, 11:18

Tiomyich, look at a branch about w17pro

The tablet starts to appear massively from sellers on Ali. Already about 10 sellers, however, mostly small. Prices - from 170-180 dollars for the 16 GB version of the tablet, provided that you agree on delivery by regular mail, and not EMS.