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Dancing with the dead [offline] Group: Friendssavagemessiahzine.com Messages 3682 Check in: 17.07.09 Oneplus 5 6/64 Reputation: 444 | Sound quality About the topic It has been a long time since the phones began to crowd out the players, a couple of years ago, smartphones were able to with primary-class players (Cowon, Sony, Iriver) the sound quality and output power left much to be desired for a long time, now the manufacturers finally felt the same vein in the world of audio, by which they are now making their way. The sound and emphasis on sound have become an integral part of every flagship device, full-fledged adult DACs, a powerful amplifier circuit, capacitors, precision modern clock smartphones, full isolation from interference and interference, and much more, modern music smartphones of the flagship class confidently left behind such players as Cowon, Sony, iRiver and can compete on equal terms with the initial hi fi players Fiio X3 / ibasso DX50 then surpass these devices. In order for newcomers to know the decoding of abbreviations, I will explain the following:SOSH - Signal to Noise Ratio(the higher this parameter is, the better and better the DAC converts the sound, for example, the Wolfson WM8994 to SGS1 has 100DB of secondary and the WCD9310 to HTC One and 110DB of secondary) Output power - Amplifier's ability to pull more demanding and full-sized headphones, the more powerful the amplifier, the more power reserve and better sound you will end up with + compatibility with a large number of headphones. Archive of outdated models So let's find out which headphones play better with which headphones. I believe that the good sound quality of the following models: Samsung download- Galaxy S / Wave / Galaxy SIII / Galaxy Note 2, Galaxy R / Galaxy S4 / Galaxy Note 3Of the Galaxy lineup, the Galaxy S1 i9000 is the most outstanding, and on board, by today's standards, is not the most advanced and very old Wolfson WM8994 DAC (4 Channel DAC, 100dB SOS), but still capable of producing good sound, tuned using Voodoo Sound. HTC- One S / Sensation / Rezound / Radar / Mozart / Butterfly / One / Butterfly S From HTC, the most outstanding, I would call the HTC One S / Butterfly S / HTC One - all three have on board a WCD9310 (8 Channel DAC, 110Db SOSH) excellent by today's standards + a couple of amplifiers from Texas Instruments (TPA6130A / OPA2064) and Maxx ( 9877), tuned with Project Era, or custom kernels, I want to mention separately HTC Butterfly S - for a smartphone it has just phenomenal output power (and excellent sound) which, coupled with the project era tuning, is able to ensure normal operation of full-sized headphones of almost any resistance. LG- LG Optimus 2X / LG Optimus 3D, LG Optimus G / LG Nexus 4 The LG Optimus 2X also has a wolfson WM8994 onboard and is supported by the voodoo sound project. Motorola- Droid Razr / Atrix 4G / Atrix 2 / Droid 3 / Moto X / Moto G Sony- Xperia X / Xperia Play / Neo / Arc S / Live With Walkman / Xperia Neo / Xperia V / Xperia Z Apple- Iphone 4 / 4S, Iphone 5 / 5S By itself, the iphone is a pioneer in the mobile audio segment, along with nokia n91 at one time there were 2 best phones that are not inferior in sound to good players, use Cirrus Logic DACs that are not tuned. BBK- Vivo X1, I want to give it special attention because this is the first smartphone in the world using a stationary DAC Cirrus Logic CS4398 + SRC The Klok CS8422 which, for example, stands in the top hifi player of Colorful Cololrfly C4 Pro at the price of $ 1000, the older brother BBK Vivo Xplay also came out with additional amplifier BurrBrown OPA2604. BBK Vivo Xshot is also equipped with a CS4398 DAC and Maxim Maxx97220 amplifier (125mW output power) + a dedicated TI TLW320 ADC (it is needed for better sound recording during video recording, for better sound recording of a voice recorder) Meizu- MX2, MX4 Core / Meizu MX3 - separately about it, this is probably the best budget option if you need a powerful combine with excellent technical characteristics and stunning sound, besides headphone output power is definitely one of the flagships in the world of smartphone sound, capable without problems Bleed full-size headphones, equipped with a Wolfson WM5102 DAC (108dB SSH). Oppo- Clover R815 - Also a great option, with more modest characteristics than the MX3, but equipped with a good BurrBrown PCM5101A DAC (106dB Secondary School) and a dedicated SMT Electronics amplifier. - A full replacement for Cowon players and even more so for ipod for such a price. TCL Idol X +- Smartphone with saber ES9018 DAC (130db SOSH) and Maxim 9720 amplifier (50mW direction Amp) P.S - I use headphones Fisher audio consonance and Audio technica ATH M50, and what are you? : rolleyes: It is advisable to write about the model of the headphones used, and personal impressions of the sound quality, I think among ordinary models there are worthy of sound, I beg you to unsubscribe about the impressions :) Just write what kind of software to use for listening - various players like PowerAMP / Winamp and which format you prefer, individual accessories are also welcome, for example, I sometimes use a portable Fiio E7 amplifier (Previously E6), some people use LOD cables and other peripherals connected to Line Out. Among the models of digital-analog converters in smartphones, there are such models as - Wolfson WM8994 (100dB SS), WM8994E (100dB SS), WM1811 (100dB SS), WM8903 (96dB SS), WM8958 (100dB SS), WM8960 (98dB SS), Wolfson WM5102 (108 dB for 44.1khz / 113dB for 48khz SOSH). Texas Instruments AIC3254 (100dB Secondary School), AIC3008, TLW6040 (100dB Secondary School). CS4322 (Mostly for Iphone, ipod.100-105dB SOSH) CS4398 (120dB) + CS8442 SRC upsampler (Exotic in BBK Vivo X1) Qualcomm WCD9310 (110dB for 44.1khz / 115dB for 48khz SOSH) + WCD9304 SRC Upsampler / Qualcomm WCD9320 (SOSH is higher than in WCD9310 but the numbers are not known.) From tanks and amplifiers to smartphones, amplifiers from texas instruments of the TPA, TDA, analog devices, MAXX 9877 series (and others from this series) are most often placed because of their low power consumption and high power and signal-to-noise ratio. Rules of communication Rules section "Technotrepalka": 1.3 Tech Trap is not a place forflooding. 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Experienced [offline] Group: Friendssavagemessiahzine.com Messages 598 Check in: 13.10.16 Reputation: 28 | [email protected], 10:50 even better my red notes 7 with google camera. Fire body. -------------------- Fiio x3-ll + fiio ex1-ll + Nad vizo hp50 |
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Banned [offline] Group: Friendssavagemessiahzine.com Messages 14630 Check in: 05.03.14 Xiaomi Redmi Note 5A 2/16 Reputation: 1269 | VALERY8886A good sound is what you need. And how much I study the topic more and more convinced of this. Principle and each of this topic will tell you the same thing. I hated the sound of nts and hiomi. Sams is the most it. I don’t know why, but from shaggy year I came across those that made it sound like I like |
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Banned [offline] Group: Friendssavagemessiahzine.com Messages 14630 Check in: 05.03.14 Xiaomi Redmi Note 5A 2/16 Reputation: 1269 | VALERY8886Samsung buy and that's it. Equalizer put the type of Dolby, or whatever they are. Viper. : censored: ask the managers of this topic whether the phones have a default cue ball as when processing dynamic through a wiper , soup type 2 ": rofl: no and not. For sound through to the general audience |
Message#112889 19.04.19, 08:42 | |
Veteran [offline] Group: Friendssavagemessiahzine.com Messages 1497 Check in: 08.01.10 LG V30 + Reputation: 122 | [email protected], 05:52 Samsung buy and everything Ski bought and all)))) Week go with V30 Upset only the shell in some places - got used to the bare android on the motor, now a little wrong. And the rest of the apparatus fire and for the money and the functionality and even more so by the sound. Gkkam on it by the way too. About the sound - I will not say that there is something straight and much better from my es100, in general + - the same. But there is no such porridge as on syoma / motor and others. In general, I like it, especially for the money that it cost me |
Message#112890 19.04.19, 09:09 | |
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Veteran [offline] Group: Friendssavagemessiahzine.com Messages 1497 Check in: 08.01.10 LG V30 + Reputation: 122 | I agree about the sound On cameras + - equally nfs no water in it everywhere compromises In terms of cameras, the ski will probably be better, and this will be without Gkam: Post has been editedmotor2110 - 19.04.19, 10:11 |
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Experienced [offline] Group: Friendssavagemessiahzine.com Messages 422 Check in: 26.12.10 Sony Xperia Z3 Compact D5803, D5833 Reputation: 55 | I sing myself, and that's all. The sound is more natural. And instead of a photo, I am painting. It remains to deal with the pigeon mail. -------------------- Knowledge is finite, but ignorance is boundless. |
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Message#112896 19.04.19, 12:05 | |
Banned [offline] Group: Friendssavagemessiahzine.com Messages 14630 Check in: 05.03.14 Xiaomi Redmi Note 5A 2/16 Reputation: 1269 | motor2110, I will be brief: I do not know for all the sound, but I thought that people do not overpay for sams, Sony, lg. And in that order Posted 04/19/2019 12:07: motor2110, I thought more about the NTS, but alas, apparently unsuccessfully bought it, or are they really like Posted 04/19/2019 12:10: motor2110, people here are talking about a lot of software , topic, but sometimes you need to look at the engineering documentation. And if you have a bottom amp on the ears (sekanomil producer), then too ... |
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Banned [offline] Group: Friendssavagemessiahzine.com Messages 14630 Check in: 05.03.14 Xiaomi Redmi Note 5A 2/16 Reputation: 1269 | motor2110, if you want the sound, take the ski and that's it. And not this d @ rmo where plugs from water ingress can oxidize. My samsa never got oxidized, and this ... It’s just ... If they stuck a good percent, ozu and some kind of screen (xs), then scan it on the other. The benefit is not on communication modules as a fly-holed one. Grandmas have take sams, sony, ski |
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Masterizer customizer [offline] Group: Friendssavagemessiahzine.com Messages 2476 Check in: 14.08.12 Meizu Pro 6 Plus 128GB Reputation: 350 | chim85, then took to try again braided cable from trn for 8 wires but alreadyblackcolors. And what about the sound: cut off again: grabli: And this is despite the fact that almost all reviewers, foaming at the mouth, proved the opposite (which he adds bass). : drag: Slightly adds brightness to the sound (just quite a bit). By the way, on the other hand, this cable helped to mow the excess bass in kz as06 and now the sound is more or less equal (there is no this blurred perdobas). The sample price was $ 5 (this was on dr Ali, with a coupon). A photo: By the way, is the sound better in Lg v20 than in meizu pro 6 plus (or vice versa)? : scratch_one-s_head: |
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