Android-smartphones from China - Discussion
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The question is - She bought herself kitayfon on Android, of being a iPhone 4s.
In the "About phone" model is not really spelled out, android 2.3.5, apparently one in one Athos 4c has Wi fi, one sim, capacitive sensor, the screen is low resolution (on the eyes).
In general, as you can identefitsirovat it and how you can increase the power of the microphone? because I have it very bad when I hear talk on the phone, and not just me. A friend she bought a same phone, also said its hard of hearing.
in engineering menu of these codes does not go.
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The question is - She bought herself kitayfon on Android, of being a iPhone 4s.
In the "About phone" model is not really spelled out, android 2.3.5, apparently one in one Athos 4c has Wi fi, one sim, capacitive sensor, the screen is low resolution (on the eyes).
In general, as you can identefitsirovat it and how you can increase the power of the microphone? because I have it very bad when I hear talk on the phone, and not just me. A friend she bought a same phone, also said its hard of hearing.
in engineering menu of these codes does not go.
*#197328640#
*#*#3646633#*#*
Guys who are in the topic? Prompt, which today has a good copy under poslednii samsungi (Note, galaxy)?
Thank.
Post has been editedromansan - 20.12.12, 01:16
Thank.
Post has been editedromansan - 20.12.12, 01:16
Carburn AnTuTu Benchmark 6577 shows that the file \ system \ build.prop glance, there is also 6577 established, moreover benchmark test showed the value of 6753, this is probably the real figures on the per cent? Just have RSTy huawei honor u8860 c single-core 1.4 percent, there is value 5238. Or 6517, too, must show the following performance
Kitayfonov classification scheme
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Classification kitayfonov (Chinese smartphones)
If we consider Keith Smart on a 2D chart "price (x) - the quality of consumer (y)",
then the graph will be a few islands smarts different prices and consumer qualities (a usable).
The first island / price "quality":
These are Chinese brands such as Huawei, ZTE, Lenovo,Fly (the mediator, not the manufacturer)entered into a contract to sell smarts in commercial networks of mobile operators in the world market. But one of the points of such agreements is that now the manufacturer can not konkurirovta prices of cellular operators and smarts to sell cheaper than the operators. Consumer qualities of these smarts are similar to smart from top, plus they have a little better value than completing OTC, and in most cases the local rather than the Chinese guarantee. But if you take them at once is 30% or more of the overpayment. Or, for the same price, it will be worse camera (5 megapixel), less memory (RAM), weaker acc. or there's no flash. Therefore, because of the price or worse performance data smarts so far less profitable to buy than smarts from top. Because a. Smarts from top in the first place made for the Chinese market that they have the best price-quality ratio (you'll need. Properties).
The second island / price "quality":
It smarts from top. This is such brands as: ZOPO, Thl, JiaYu, UMI, Amoi (eng), Hero / Caesar (OEM zopo), some models Newman'a, FreeLander (OEM Newman'a), CJ (OEM thl), tooky (minimum price but there are questions about the spare parts). Data smarts characterized by all consumer properties as well as for the previous group (at a lower price and slightly lower: reliability, quality, incl appearance..). It is properties such as:
Best value / price "bells and whistles" (performance), but at the same time - the maximum tehpoddezhka and maximum community (community) of user data SMART.
By "TOP'ovoy" those. support means:
- Softovaya support, regular output Russified firmware (even for the European model), the presence of root, rekaveri, mods, patches, facilitating the user lives (good work light sensor).
- the railway. support - in most cases you can find and purchase screen and touchscreen (15-45 ye), loops.
- the accessory support - you can buy inexpensive original bumper (case), carrying case, film.
- the guarantee. support. If there is a factory marriage can be smart to send to China for a free one-year warranty repair (the cost of shipping to China (acceleration) and back (Singapore) from 12 to 25 ye (depending on the CIS region)).
The third and fourth island of "price / quality":
This usually smarts such as the Chinese brands: STAR, ULEFONE, Haipai, Dapeng, Bedove, ISA, CDS, Bluebo, Chigon (OEM ...), Cubot, separate models Newman'a, FreeLander'a (OEM Newman'a), CJ ( OEM thl).
With a slight discount on the price (on the price and performance smarts indistinguishable from the previous group) in this groupmuch worse consumer properties:
It smarts in many respects similar to the brands. Ruth also have sometimes rekaveri fused firmware certain amount of tech support(But with inflated prices for spare parts) . E. They may well be used. But due to the fact that the firmware on them hardly updated, relevant firmware schools (communication problems, otvalivanie simok) usually no one removes (although this occurs in whale brand).
E. The discount price, which is obtained when purchasing a smart, instantly evaporate due to the high marriage when receiving phone (when you return to the supplier at his own expense), searching for information about firmware, finding spare parts, spare parts and cost while trying to sell a little-known smart .
"The third island" differs from the fourth - the presence of the brand name in the model name. Model of the third "grade" easily identified through a search, and they are quite often sold the shares (often labeled as OEM versions of brands, compatible firmware version).
Smarts fourth group - is very hard to identify (usually they do not have the brand model only) and hard (Only through a smart seller ) Pts. expensive ($ 50 for the touch and the screen), or is impossible or get some spare parts. In fact smarts fourth group - disposable device.
Driving rutovaniya, creating patched rekaveri smart and drain the full backup firmware is very well established on the chips MTK, and often does not require any special knowledge. Still need a decent community and someone with hands growing from the right place to do it right. And this work can be time consuming and there are risks okirpichit smart. And so on. To. To remove a Chinese junk, SMS viruses need a rut, then there is no benefit to save a couple of bucks to then spend 5 hours or more to create a theme to a Smart firmware. And there is no guarantee that the GPS will work well, or the camera will take more or less decently.
"The fifth island" smarts usually without the brand name is usually in only a model, but the main difference - the lack of those. support (and soft-iron). . That is, when in fact the same price that the Group 4 - very dramatic subsidence features a smart consumer. And the lack of Russian language in such a smart puts an end to it.
Clones
In the fifth "grade" often includes a variety of clones.
The whale smartphones true rule: The bigger whale like a smart brand, the worse it is quality, large noneym, less components, less its technical support (software and hardware) at the maximum - completely lacking those. support (single or dialer broke briknulsya - thrown), the more his marriage more incompatible models.
There are exceptions. These are some ayfonopodobnye clones with the larger community, but at inflated prices by 1.5 times. Such has Softovaya support, but it does not mean that they have everything in order with the iron (production in the cellars of the regrading of parts affects the quality) and noneymovost (lack of direct access to the manufacturer) affects the price of the same touch screen or can not be purchased.
for clones prices are often overestimated because of the legal risks of their release and much demand for them. On the clones you will immediately lose in money and in quality. It smarts for students and children t. To. In this environment, these models are popular and sometimes not so critical if the truth be revealed. But buying these smarts often means that you (your children) brainwashed by the media and you can easily suggestible, manipulated, and you care about you other people say.
More than a bozo, lame question in the branch kitayfonov: "Give me a model clone to ________?" - you can not imagine. The seller on the market, the coveted heard the question, understand that smarts you do not understand and sell sucks (like the 6573), that later half of the year will not care.
If you ask, the most high-quality Keith Smart with the best consumer characteristics (with the best aspect ratio. Quality price of an average price segment (not top-end)).
The whale smartphones true rule: The bigger whale like a smart brand, the worse it is quality, large noneym, less components, less its technical support (software and hardware) at the maximum - completely lacking those. support (single or dialer broke briknulsya - thrown), the more his marriage more incompatible models.
There are exceptions. These are some ayfonopodobnye clones with the larger community, but at inflated prices by 1.5 times. Such has Softovaya support, but it does not mean that they have everything in order with the iron (production in the cellars of the regrading of parts affects the quality) and noneymovost (lack of direct access to the manufacturer) affects the price of the same touch screen or can not be purchased.
for clones prices are often overestimated because of the legal risks of their release and much demand for them. On the clones you will immediately lose in money and in quality. It smarts for students and children t. To. In this environment, these models are popular and sometimes not so critical if the truth be revealed. But buying these smarts often means that you (your children) brainwashed by the media and you can easily suggestible, manipulated, and you care about you other people say.
More than a bozo, lame question in the branch kitayfonov: "Give me a model clone to ________?" - you can not imagine. The seller on the market, the coveted heard the question, understand that smarts you do not understand and sell sucks (like the 6573), that later half of the year will not care.
If you ask, the most high-quality Keith Smart with the best consumer characteristics (with the best aspect ratio. Quality price of an average price segment (not top-end)).
The "island of the sixth" conditionally smarts (actually dialers) because there is no truncated processor: 3G, GPS, cuts up to 256 MB RAM, and usually (though not essential) - none of those. support and access to spare parts (ie. a. no sane expert who fumbles in iron, not afford to buy such crap, then to the so spend your time to increase its sales and improve its soft-tech. support). Especially those smarts - phony with the community 5 people. Theoretically, purely on the roulette laws they can get Ruth and even rekaveri and drain firmware. But this does not improve iron jambs model and improve its attractiveness t. To. The software will simply have nowhere to put, and due to lack of memory, it will always be unloaded. Contacts are uploaded constantly, slow down and not to scroll. It's smart with the lowest possible price, but at the same time the lowest possible consumer qualities.
Total:
Beginning with the fourth (third) "grade" Keith Smart - they all belong to the group "African smarts." "Cheap" (purely for marketing reasons (deception)) models are available for poor consumers, even by Chinese standards so. E. For Africans and the level of well-being and level of education. The last does not mean that the smart ultimately cost you less than the brand (available for the Chinese middle-income countries). The rule is: "The greedy pays twice, stupid three times, and goof ..." The first time he paid for a smart, then overpay for his soft-Help Desk (if there is one, or kill time on rutovanie okirpichivanie or (depending on the result)) . The third time is paid time and money when searching for parts. Having bought myself 4-6 "grade" you identify yourself clearly enough, and most likely - will lose money.
I do not care how smart you yourself choose, unless you are advertising without noneymy Russian (and all the more clones) or have written positive reviews with a hint of "Take it - could not be better."
Nevertheless, the number of people to step on the same rake, or walking along the curve track clones (ongoing advertising) - only grows, it can not hurt.
I do not care how smart you yourself choose, unless you are advertising without noneymy Russian (and all the more clones) or have written positive reviews with a hint of "Take it - could not be better."
Nevertheless, the number of people to step on the same rake, or walking along the curve track clones (ongoing advertising) - only grows, it can not hurt.
Post has been editedbzby - 10.04.13, 22:33
bzby @ 20.12.2012, 10:38
A sense from smarts such as from a counterfeit Swiss watches or rhinestones.
I not quite agree with you on this issue. Buying a top-end, popular brand for 20 rubles a kilo You know perfectly well that in a year it will cost half as much. And he was so tired that he will have to look at the sick. But you'll have to strangle the toad. And you can buy for the same money the whole Zhmenya and change them as "weeks" and be happy as an elephant: "Because it is possible to hammer in a nail, open beer, smash it against the wall, beneath the chair, but simply to present by passing." And you will not be a pity.
Just do not be a layman in the subject which is trying to be at the forefront, and at least occasionally pochityvat useful literature, and not something that they are trying to push through a drawer.
Saw a man in the studio with apple 4, so when he was given a prescription that the customer zdoh after a bath he had to call an ambulance.
P.S. This is bad, very bad.
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Russkopf @ 20.12.2012, 15:15
I not quite agree with you on this issue.
We talk a bit about different things. Probably not very well compared. The problem is not the price difference.
This is a topic kitayfonov here and no one talks about global brands who incidentally dramatically falling sales. Brands suffer losses and close factories and regional technical support.
The above mention of diamonds and the forgery was talking about:
1. Keith brands (Thl, Zopo) aimed at whale market who deliberately do not copy (not cloned to a quarter mm) appearance brands. And they do not cost 20 kilorubley.
2. Keith Smart (noneymy) externally similar global brands (clones ayfon et al.).
Because of the Chinese marketing is usually a little cheaper clones, but it is often more expensive (when it comes to the iPhone clones) than the original Keith Smart with the same characteristic of E in the description.
Although the price difference is not present or it is negative, but the difference in quality (and consumer properties), they differ at times, almost like a diamond and bits of glass or Swiss watches and imitations of them for $ 10.
But the man is, in practice, will not understand until you buy some clone $ 3 cheaper then starts in this thread to ask questions where Ruth and where the firmware, it is for a one-time Mr. why I cheated.
The difference between a whale brands and clones even more than the difference between the whale. brands and international brands at near Har's. And last all reduced.
If many people buy and do not hesitate to use the kit brands and in interiors kitayfony (zte, Huawei, Lenovo) in a prominent position (most models of global brands now going to China), the absolutely do not see is washed to buy quite a whale. forgery and noneymy on which the majority of the wound. Nevertheless, because of ignorance, according to statistics people take probably less than 20% of normal smarts, others buy noneymy.
In this there are also pluses. On the whale price brands are not overstated by the procedure and those who thinks reading reviews - has the ability to take a normal smart, not overpriced. But in the Internet Russian-speaking is not so much, and if they suddenly take smarts standards, rather than "fake" it will not affect the prices.
Possible comparison truhurovnevoe (or more). Rough:
1. Global brands
2. Keith brands.
3. Clones usually noneymy due to the intricacies of their production and because of the desire of the Chinese to make their quality (PONV Har-ki) in the order of magnitude worse than the whale. brands.
Between 1 and 2, a large difference in price but as small.
Between 1 and 3, the price difference is big, but also as a (total) is also a big difference.
Between 2 and 3, the difference in price there is little, but as a big difference.
Economic sense to buy noneymy and accordingly clones - no other than the external similarity with global brands. But not all gold that glitters. Chinaman Chinaman strife. That's all I wanted to say. The lower consumer communication Islands smarta the less desirable to purchase. We must not buy something that glitters, and the fact that quality.
. That is a bozo, lame question in the branch kitayfonov: "Give me a model clone to ________?" - you can not imagine. Sold on the market when he heardcoveted question He understands that smarts you absolutely nothing about and sell you this sucks (6573), which you then half of the year will not care.
If you ask the highest-quality Keith Smart with the best consumer characteristics (with the best aspect ratio. Quality price of an average price segment (not top-end)) to such rude include most new models Thl and ZOPO.
Therefore, all I say - take proven smarts from top, virtually any of those that like it and it will be a better choice than noneym 500 kit models that are on the market or take the brand in the cabin, but apparently this is not enough.
The above mention of diamonds and the forgery was talking about:
1. Keith brands (Thl, Zopo) aimed at whale market who deliberately do not copy (not cloned to a quarter mm) appearance brands. And they do not cost 20 kilorubley.
2. Keith Smart (noneymy) externally similar global brands (clones ayfon et al.).
Because of the Chinese marketing is usually a little cheaper clones, but it is often more expensive (when it comes to the iPhone clones) than the original Keith Smart with the same characteristic of E in the description.
Although the price difference is not present or it is negative, but the difference in quality (and consumer properties), they differ at times, almost like a diamond and bits of glass or Swiss watches and imitations of them for $ 10.
But the man is, in practice, will not understand until you buy some clone $ 3 cheaper then starts in this thread to ask questions where Ruth and where the firmware, it is for a one-time Mr. why I cheated.
The difference between a whale brands and clones even more than the difference between the whale. brands and international brands at near Har's. And last all reduced.
If many people buy and do not hesitate to use the kit brands and in interiors kitayfony (zte, Huawei, Lenovo) in a prominent position (most models of global brands now going to China), the absolutely do not see is washed to buy quite a whale. forgery and noneymy on which the majority of the wound. Nevertheless, because of ignorance, according to statistics people take probably less than 20% of normal smarts, others buy noneymy.
In this there are also pluses. On the whale price brands are not overstated by the procedure and those who thinks reading reviews - has the ability to take a normal smart, not overpriced. But in the Internet Russian-speaking is not so much, and if they suddenly take smarts standards, rather than "fake" it will not affect the prices.
Possible comparison truhurovnevoe (or more). Rough:
1. Global brands
2. Keith brands.
3. Clones usually noneymy due to the intricacies of their production and because of the desire of the Chinese to make their quality (PONV Har-ki) in the order of magnitude worse than the whale. brands.
Between 1 and 2, a large difference in price but as small.
Between 1 and 3, the price difference is big, but also as a (total) is also a big difference.
Between 2 and 3, the difference in price there is little, but as a big difference.
Economic sense to buy noneymy and accordingly clones - no other than the external similarity with global brands. But not all gold that glitters. Chinaman Chinaman strife. That's all I wanted to say. The lower consumer communication Islands smarta the less desirable to purchase. We must not buy something that glitters, and the fact that quality.
. That is a bozo, lame question in the branch kitayfonov: "Give me a model clone to ________?" - you can not imagine. Sold on the market when he heardcoveted question He understands that smarts you absolutely nothing about and sell you this sucks (6573), which you then half of the year will not care.
If you ask the highest-quality Keith Smart with the best consumer characteristics (with the best aspect ratio. Quality price of an average price segment (not top-end)) to such rude include most new models Thl and ZOPO.
Therefore, all I say - take proven smarts from top, virtually any of those that like it and it will be a better choice than noneym 500 kit models that are on the market or take the brand in the cabin, but apparently this is not enough.
Post has been editedbzby - 20.12.12, 18:15
bephone i9300
sent today this device white ... just a glitch or marriage ... touchscreen behaves poorly, I can not help it ... it alone reaches into emergency vyzov..to just flashes the upper menus and the office desk ... unlock nepoluchaetsya ... ((
Factory reset did .... zarobalo standards ... it took 30 minutes, and again all was as the above version of the droid ... apparently glyukanutaya ...
I am taking devicehere(Drugan there took 5 mobil and all the rules and I was "brought up" so also all the characteristics of infidels, those that are on the site ...)
what do you advise?
sent today this device white ... just a glitch or marriage ... touchscreen behaves poorly, I can not help it ... it alone reaches into emergency vyzov..to just flashes the upper menus and the office desk ... unlock nepoluchaetsya ... ((
Factory reset did .... zarobalo standards ... it took 30 minutes, and again all was as the above version of the droid ... apparently glyukanutaya ...
I am taking devicehere(Drugan there took 5 mobil and all the rules and I was "brought up" so also all the characteristics of infidels, those that are on the site ...)
what do you advise?
goat666 ,
Do not buy from baryg-dealers, and, order yourself Ali for example. come out cheaper and the money will be able to return in case anything happens.
Do not buy from baryg-dealers, and, order yourself Ali for example. come out cheaper and the money will be able to return in case anything happens.
and do not tell me that's the Chinese analogue of aykonbitahttp://www.iconbit.ru/products/tablets/106337/
I found with similar characteristics, but it is not able to analogue, it was too interesting to read about nego.Voobsche interesting device, with two batteries and thus screen, surf and talk over.
I found with similar characteristics, but it is not able to analogue, it was too interesting to read about nego.Voobsche interesting device, with two batteries and thus screen, surf and talk over.
dexxmc @ 20.12.2012, 22:08
Do not buy from baryg-dealers, and, order yourself Ali for example. come out cheaper and the money will be able to return in case anything happens.
Well losses is understandable ... but what schA can do with it that would normally juzat?
goat666, talk to the sellers of this "miracle" may they be exchanged for another of the same. But there is already a matter of time and money - transfer, and so on ... And if the very act - google firmware for your device, it can be Softovaya problem.
bzby @ 20.12.2012, 18:30
We talk a bit about different things.
But with this, I fully agree. And I think that after such a detailed response, stupid questions in the topic will be less. : Thank_you:
tell people where I learn how to buy gadgets to Ali. all the nuances of whether the product is .dolgo. ?
slim-ny @ 21.12.2012, 23:14
tell people where I learn how to buy gadgets to Ali. all the nuances of whether the product is .dolgo. ?
Kazan usually takes about a month, a little less. But in the New Year period longer course
I am looking for a wife inexpensive Chinese crafts, such as ahttp://www.aliexpress.com/item/MTK6515-1GH.../713360516.html
Which model in the range of 100-150 USD note?
Which model in the range of 100-150 USD note?
ViktuK @ 22.12.2012, 11:17
I am looking for a wife inexpensive Chinese crafts, such as ahttp://www.aliexpress.com/item/MTK6515-1GH.../713360516.html
Which model in the range of 100-150 USD note?
Which model in the range of 100-150 USD note?
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