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There is more and more controversy about what is better or what will be better.
Let's try to solve this issue by universal efforts, because truth arises in a dispute ...


I ask you to argue your choice, links to all sorts of information are welcome,: yes2:
empty non substantial content of posts - no
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Goals
Androyd new promising OS, the potential of which unfortunately is not yet fully realized.
WM - proven over the years, the popular OS, experiencing a "plastic surgery" (WM 6-7).

The theme was created to identify all the problems of these OS, their best moments.
Perhaps for someone it will be valuable information.


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Perhaps somewhere already there was such a survey, I did not find it, if I apologize,)
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and before that there was no copy-paste nebylo, and other necessary things

Do not drive - it was, everything was implemented by third-party programs.
And what's the difference before that?
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Android is Java. And that's it.

Android is also C ++. At the same time, the dislike of Java is incomprehensible. Are you confusing with Java ME? Drain is not counted. :)

Posted on 09/24/2009, 23:26:

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Having climbed this site, www.cyrket.com, has a fairly meager amount of software been found or is it still there?


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In theory, he gives the contents of the entire Market'a. If there is software outside the Market, it is small and it is weak or start-up projects. How many exact programs on the Market will not tell, the link is lost. About a month or two ago there was about 6000.

Posted on 09/25/2009 02:10:

Oh, I found. Already almost 9000 -http://www.androlib.com/android.category.applications-j.aspx


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In the situation with Androyd I would like to note: And the king is naked!
There can not be a good non-rolling platform. Programs for it can be counted on the fingers. A similar survey and comparison will have to be created in a year and a half. Then you can at least say something about Androyd. For now only conjectures. And by the way, it is perfectly clear who initiated the rumors about the imminent demise of WM.


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Programs for it can be counted on the fingers.

However, you have fingers))) Let's not theorize, but say then what exactly is missing for you. Immediately tell you that the supported video formats are still very limited. We continue. :)


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Is the ICQ clients working adequately with Russian encodings and supporting X-statuses?

Graphic level editorsPocket painter?

GPS navigation level IGO (about Autosputnik with Yandex-traffic jams will keep silent, bye ..)

Editing \ creating documents SoftMarketOffice level? (for some reason, the search forum did not give the topic)


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Do not drive - it was, everything was implemented by third-party programs.
And what's the difference before that?

Your friends will say "do not drive." OK?
If you have not noticed, then my post was followed after the post of the turn-active. And I did not run into the apple. but simply stated a fact. In the devices, which are so active and so much worth it (they were worth at the moment of their appearance), such flaws are the height of idiocy. IMHO.
As for me, the third-party software is a third-party software, but if there is a device, then it should initially have a certain functionality sufficient for comfortable work, without picking and installing the software. Type as got and use. In Vende, there is such a functional (although it is miserable, but it does exist. And there is a normal work of bluetooth and copy-paste in the MMS, and a set of pre-installed software is also sufficient for life.
As far as I know, in 2003 and in later versions, it was all. correct if I am mistaken.

And if you talk. that all this is nonsense, so you can actually install the Linux kernel on the PDA and let the user install the necessary modules and software, but what? But everyone chooses what he needs himself. Brad after all.


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WareZZZOk @ 25.9.09, 18:45*
In Vende, there is such a functional (although it is miserable, but it does exist. And there is a normal work of bluetooth and copy-paste in the MMS, and a set of pre-installed software is also sufficient for life.

MMS - OEM software, bluetooth - yes, if the Microsoft stack is worth it, but the OEM will also provide a bluetooth driver.
Microsoft Soft - MediaPlayer, tmail / outlook, calculator, MS Live (MSN Messenger and LiveSearch), IE (including updated in 6.5 with flash), IE weather widgets and money (in 6.5), calendar, notes, tasks, pimg (photo and video), explorer, keyboard and telephone.
All the rest must be set additionally, if you have not been supplied by the OEM manufacturer. Not to say that the choice is sufficient, but you can work.
Yes, I forgot about the MS task manager in 6.1 - 6.5
WareZZZOk @ 25.9.09, 18:45*
so you can install the Linux kernel on the PDA and let the user install the necessary modules and software
You also need to write a device driver for Linux to someone.
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With the X-status I will not tell you, but with the support of Russian there is, and as far as I know, not one client. For example, such a client -Hello IM!I also met quite good reviews about this client -Meebo

The image editor was not interested, I personally consider such software as nonsense on small screens and weak processors (what will you do in these editors, really? Edit photos? Ruin their quality with poor filters and algorithms?). If you want to trite to draw a couple of lines, you can use the software of this kind -White board

With navigation, everything is not smooth, I will not lie. iGo will be later, said more than once, but for now there is such an option -CoPilot [Android OS]- also quite a good one, although it is inferior to the decision from iGo. There are also very high-quality frivolny solutions, for example -RMaps [Android OS]

I do not know what SoftMarketOffice is, but editing doc, xls, docx, xlsx and even PowerPoint is possible -Documents To Go

if there is a device, then it must initially have a certain functionality, sufficient for comfortable work, without picking and installing software. Type as got and use.

Are you now about WM?))) WM has enough software for comfortable work? Khm Something I have not noticed for several years of using this constructor.

P.S.About photo editors. Found one -http://www.cyrket.com/package/com.shinycore.picsayfree- but I did not try it, so I can not say about its capabilities.

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the fact is that the SoftMarketOffice and Pocket Painter programs are not inferior in functionality to the similar ones for the average PC program,
Convenience of use is hidden only because of the small size of the screen on PDA / communicators, but I really see by the example of this software
which is possible to implement on the WM platform, on Android, at least as long as I see the Symbian 7-8 level software, just like on the iFuna.


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As for me, the third-party software is a third-party software, but if there is a device, then it should initially have a certainfunctionality sufficient for comfortable work, without picking and upgrading the software. Type as got and use.In Vende there is such a functional (although it is poor, but there is....

nestykovochka :) If he is miserable, then it is not sufficient forcomfortablework :)

IMHO naked WM is porn. You can’t even call without stylas (I mean contacts). It all comes down to the question - for whom what functionality is the minimum necessary.

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OEM software

Nevertheless, this oem software was originally present in the original firmware for the device (used acer n311, htc touch, o2 flame and held a bunch of devices in its hands). I mean, M $, with all the flaws, took care of it . Apple is not.

You also need to write a device driver for Linux to someone.

Well, I meant that the firewood will go with the core. It is possible even to use a simple shell and nothing more :)))

Are you now about WM?))) WM has enough software for comfortable work?

Okay, maybe I exaggerated a little :)
I had in mind that although it is miserable, it still exists and works somehow, BUT WORKS :)))
Ie aunty, who bought the same httz touch, will be able to use it with a certain skill will be able to use the vast majority of functions. and don't care that she has no idea that there is additional software and that it can be installed, and even more so to write :)
I personally know a couple of such examples (just in case, I will explain that right now this is not about geeks, but about an ordinary user, far from all these intricacies, for which he owns, and the main kmk market is oriented)

Even to call without stilas can not

And for me, for fun, to poke a stylus: D


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outwardly I see software level Symbian 7-8

Expand your phrase, please. What do you mean by "Symbian level 7-8"? By the way, I cited specific examples of programs as an example, you didn’t conduct a comparison with them, but you went into lengthy arguments about the possibilities of WM. Let's be more specific what is in the programs you cited, but not in the programs for Android? Tell us specifically what you are using and we will try to find or not find an alternative to a competing OS.

but still he is and works somehow, BUT WORKS

So it works on Android. And the interface is unlike friendly WM. :) I’m not so against WM, but I don’t see any real progress in this OS for many years. It tires. I used to use PalmOS. Until now, I do not see WM having similar stability in operation.


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I had in view of the level of implementation of the software functionality, perhaps the comparison with Symbian of the 2nd edition is not entirely correct, but visual,
eg:

it is possible to implement this or that program in minimalist version on almost any OS,
tobish graphic editor with three brushes and ten colors or
make a similar program with dozens of brushes, layers, the imposition of various effects and other "adult" features,
I just gave the graphic editor as an example, it can be a full-featured office program, not just paste / copy,
and any other software ..
So on WM, I see that the implementation of software functionality is high and a large range of possibilities is open, while on other mobile OS the implementation of similar programs is much lower,
do you understand what I am talking about ?

For example, is there any similar functionality like inSoftMaker Office ??

In addition to the description of the features in the topic at the link above, I also found:

oftMaker Office is an office application suite. It includes TextMaker and PlanMaker, which allow you to work with files directly from Microsoft Excel and Word, without prior conversion and with full formatting preservation.
TextMaker is a practically complete analogue of desktop Word, has features such as multilingual spell checking, creating footnotes and notes, tables with calculations, a tool for creating forms, a history of changes and pop-up comments like in Word 2003, and much more.
PlanMaker allows you to work with spreadsheets on a PDA, has more than 320 built-in computational functions, support for complex numbers and array processing, autocompletion, named ranges and their processing, a module for building all sorts of charts and graphs that can display any charts created in Microsoft Excel.

TextMaker features:
- Exchange native files with TextMaker for Windows, TextMaker for Linux
- Document exchange TextMaker with Microsoft Word 6.0, 95, 97, 2000, Word XP, Word 2003
- Can work with a large number of additional formats - HTML, RTF, Pocket Word, ASCII, Unicode
- Built-in file manager
- Virtually unlimited undo / redo
- Find and replace text and formatting
- Table support
- Sort tables and text
- Calculations in the text and tables
- Underline
- Working with fields such as date, time, page, author, automatic numbering
- Insert special characters
- Bookmarks
- Text custom shortcuts - we write shortly, we get a long phrase
- TextMaker works with forms - text fields, daws, lists, calculations, etc.
- Formatting characters and paragraphs as for "adult" editors
- Headers and footers, translucent backgrounds on each page
- Styles
- Insert BMP, 2BP, TIFF, PCX, GIF, JPEG, TGA, PNG, PhotoCD, IFF, IMG, PBM, PPM, PGM images into TextMaker documents
- Insert pictures
- Insert areas of text, pictures, etc.
- Spell checking in many languages
- Table of contents generation, indexes
- Footnotes
- Built in TextMaker dBase-compatible database
- Data Encryption
- Fully customizable keyboard and control panel
- much more


I take doubts, will it be possible and on the same Android to see software of this level ??

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Regarding the capabilities of the MS Office file editor, here is the complete list -http://www.dataviz.com/products/documentst...ure_matrix.html
In my opinion for the eyes of a mobile device. By the way, unlike SoftMaker, it works with the file format of the 2007 office.

And whatyou not enough functionality? I'm not going to convince you that the existing software for Android is able to block all the software on WM. No, it is not. But how do I, say, care about Unix server capabilities if I don’t use them? We choose systems for ourselves, not for uncle. Here we take me. I constantly use the device for reading books, for the Internet, for ICQ (+ Jabber), as a music player, organizer, rarely GPS and "kill time" plan games. This is what really I need. I, for example, do not even care at all about the presence of the Word editor of documents, I consider it an exceptional perversion to try to work in editors on screens of this size. This is about me. And what do you need from the system?


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And what do you need from the system?

From the communicator you need:
1) I found the phone more or less convenient for WM, there are still enough bugs there, but you can say that it is no worse than the iPhone :-)
2) Profiles triggered by events, for example, Meeting with the state is busy.
3) Convenient Keyboard (for devices that do not have qwerty).
4) a normal task manager that can close applications in X
5) normal player supporting many media and video formats
6) Convenient access from the "main screen" to unread SMS, emails, missed calls ... customizable information panel on which you can place data from online services. For example, the rate of the National Bank, the weather, etc.
7) Friendly and intuitive interface that allows you to use the communicator with one hand
All this can be configured in almost any version of WM, but unfortunately Microsoft has nothing to do with this. WM6.5 is an attempt to implement clause 7, but IMHO is only an attempt, the implementation leaves much to be desired.
In paragraphs 1-6, what is implemented by MS is uncomfortable, poorly functional and needs some work.

In my opinion, everyone uses this, I'm not talking about the reader, browser, messangers, and so on.

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And what do you need from the system?

the presence of a hard-core (hardware) numeric keypad for convenient use of the telephone part :) That’s not what an android device has :)

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Sorry, what is not there ??? Virtual Claudia ???
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