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About im - how many times it has already been discussed .. In messengers with a plow, the authors of which were not too lazy to properly implement the server pash module, there are no problems. In oneteam (jabber-client, which I have been using for a year and a half), the connection does not break, there are no problems (the developer is not someone, but processone, the authors of ejabberd). Bidzhayva users also did not complain. And on the same android with messengers with MTS (Kuban) problems - the connection is constantly falling off and is not automatically restored. There are no problems with other opsocks, but not everyone likes them because of this.


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All axes and devices need crutches. Do you have Hero now with app2sd?

For example, I need to connect to my computer as a flash drive for exactly one thing - music, movies, applications. If it is through a special program, I will not be upset.

A video calls ... Yes, how many devices are now capable of it at all?
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04.01.11, 13:48
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Svetloyar,
A video calls ... Yes, how many devices are now capable of it at all?

Is it necessary at all? ;) Expensive and only with 3G.
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04.01.11, 13:55
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By the way, I myself before (before the release of the iPhone 4) did not like the iPhone.
Because:
-No multitasking.
-Don't record video. (After the release, 3GS started thinking about the apple tree :-))
- And of course tuna attachment
-Well, and the broom ...
Of course, I reconciled with the inability to transfer files on the bluetooth, but it’s bitter that in the 30k device there is no such function ...
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04.01.11, 14:09
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Svetloyar @ 01/04/2011, 13:44*
Do you have Hero now with app2sd?

I can put 2.2 (there it is native), but Sense really likes. I will wait for 2.2 with a sensor - it seems like the camera will be finished soon - you can put it.
Svetloyar @ 01/04/2011, 13:44*
For example, I need to connect to my computer as a flash drive for exactly one thing - music, movies, applications. If it is through a special program, I will not be upset.

This is if from your computer. And if from someone else? Who does not have this program? I just wrote about it. The policy of the Apple is calculated on the fact that you, your friends and everyone around the Apple device. But it is not. Not everyone likes them, not everyone needs them in principle (someone with his Vertu is sitting and he doesn’t need tuna on his laptop Vayo).


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Xamil @ 01/04/2011, 13:41*
About im - how many times it has already been discussed .. In messengers with a plow, the authors of which were not too lazy to properly implement the server pash module, there are no problems. In oneteam (jabber-client, which I have been using for a year and a half), the connection does not break, there are no problems (the developer is not someone, but processone, the authors are ejabberd)

As I understand it, the online meter in this mode has nothing to do with reality. If you go down to the subway where there is no Internet, the server will still show you online. Right?


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04.01.11, 16:53
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khar-selim @ 01/04/2011, 14:09*
The policy of the Apple is calculated on the fact that you, your friends and everyone around the Apple device.

Eppl's policy is that you will buy media content only in the iTunes Store, because sharing music and movies with friends is a violation of copyright, well, and ... additional profits from the Store)
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04.01.11, 21:06
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IP_slava @ 01/04/2011, 16:53*
Eppl's policy is that you will buy media content only in the iTunes Store, because sharing music and movies with friends is a violation of copyright, well, and ... additional profits from the Store)

And if I bought it in another place? And if I need to transfer a document (well, I don’t know, some), but is there only a phone at hand? Do I violate my copyright? Or the person who wants to throw off my document to me ?! Let them protect their content, as they please, and let everything else (which is already being used) let it be on the conscience of those who copy it. And who should be worried about this, then any copyright protection alliances.
The fact of the matter is that there is a binding to their services and hardware, and third-party as it were, do not exist. That is why the Apple is in isolation - it is brewed in its little apple world, and it is ruled by the small, but little world, God Steve Jops.


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04.01.11, 22:07
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That's just the apple world is not small at all. Nearly half of home PCs in the US and the world's best-selling smartphone - is that small?
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04.01.11, 22:37
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Few. Not enough software for poppy; in the rest of the world, except for the States, poppies are not that popular; And the best-selling smart in the world - so what? Other axes (Symbian, Winmo, Android) in the aggregate by the sold devices will simply crush it. While the Apple makes one device, competitors release 20 models (on each axis). And do not forget that competitors allow you to freely share files and shovel the system for themselves (there’s no such thing as “cheating disapprove”).


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Armitage @ 01/04/2011, 10:07 PM*
Almost half of home PCs in the US

Yes, where did this nonsense come from?http://thegadgets.net/technology-news/appl...omputers-share/. Barely up to 10% got, and that's not counting self-collecting. Do not believe in fairy tales. In the rest of the world, sales of apple gland - 7-8%, nothing more. Sales ayos only in 3rd place.

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04.01.11, 23:18
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From a marketing point of view, just the fact that Apple sells a single model in such volumes is phenomenal success.
khar-selim @ 01/04/2011, 22:37*
Few. Not enough software for Mac

As far as I am not an adept of Apple, but software for Macs is more than enough. In fact, there is nothing that somehow does not have an equivalent equivalent. If, nevertheless, something is found, as a rule, these are applications from some professional sphere, for example trading, then you can always use the same parallels.
khar-selim @ 01/04/2011, 22:37*
in the rest of the world, except for the States, poppies are not that popular

The US market defines global trends in the IT field. Nokia sold well in Europe and developing countries, but missed the American trends and still can not get out.
China is brewed in its own juice, they have their own market trends inside the country, they do not usually work outside. Japan is a huge, capacious market, Yapi spend a lot of money on gadgets, but it is so different from the rest of the world that again, only rare emissions, like solar protuberances, are shown out.
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04.01.11, 23:26
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JDima,
I saw these numbers, but there is one unclear point that I emphasized. "Home PC". The figures for PC sales as a whole are made by corporate employees, who almost all sit on Windows.

JDima @ 01/04/2011, 11:16 PM*
Sales ayos only in 3rd place.

Nothing, in this case, iOS = iPhone?
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04.01.11, 23:29
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Armitage @ 01/04/2011, 11:26 PM*
however, there is one unclear point that I emphasized. "Home PC". PC sales figures are generally done by corporate employees.

Then I wait for the measurement of the share of sales of Yabloko among home PCs. While there is no evidence - we consider the figure of 50% fiction.
Armitage @ 01/04/2011, 11:26 PM*
Nothing, in this case, iOS = iPhone?

Of course. We after all compare platforms. If there was only one device on the android, for example - N1 or NS, its sales would be much more. And the complete lack of choice of devices for iOS is the fattest minus of the platform.


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The flash drive mode on the iPhone using software assumes that there is no access to the flooded files from the device itself, as far as I understand?


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khar-selim @ 01/04/2011, 21:06*
And if I bought it in another place?

Read where and why you can copy it.
khar-selim @ 01/04/2011, 21:06*
And if I need to transfer a document (well, I don’t know, some), but is there only a phone at hand?

Do not believe it, I really easier to do it as a thread other than on the wire.
khar-selim @ 01/04/2011, 21:06*
The fact of the matter is that there is a binding to their services and hardware, and third-party as it were, do not exist.

So what? If you actively use them, it is convenient. Do not want, do not like it - do not buy, why spit poisonous from hatred sprinkle?
khar-selim @ 01/04/2011, 22:37*
Not enough software for Mac

Show me an apretura for Windows, Photoshop for Linux, then let's talk, do not offer analogues.
khar-selim @ 01/04/2011, 22:37*
And do not forget that competitors allow you to freely share files and shovel the system for themselves

And what is such an urgent need to invent unnecessary entertainment for yourself? IMHO at the time of not slow Internet is easier to drop the document to the thread than to drag or search for a cable. And the shovel system, well, each is perverted in its own way. I don’t even want to update the firmware from my technique, not just what to modify with a file, neither a refrigerator, nor a washing machine, etc. Well, it was the case, of course, I wanted a media player with whores and blackjack, made the firmware. But when buying something else, I somehow don’t think about how to squander the engine in the car, how to overclock the microwave to 10 kW, I like it - I buy it, I don’t like it, I don’t like it - I don’t buy it, I don’t understand why the phone should be an exception . Following your logic, we get that the coolest car is nine or ten, some kind of thread, because they can cool for themselves remake. I myself am not the owner of the iPhone, but reading reviews of ardent opponents somehow looks likethis bearded manuscript
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When something is forbidden, I do not like. Vaughn and WP7 went the same way. So, of course, money is easier. But the soul remains sediment.


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IP_slava @ 01/04/2011, 23:46*
Photoshop for Linux

Try Crete, oh yeah, do not offer analogues.
In general, this is what? let me find you teach prog which is not under the poppy? They will be much more.

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JDima @ 01/04/2011, 10:16 PM*
In the rest of the world, sales of apple gland - 7-8%, nothing more. Sales ayos only in 3rd place.

What is it like? in 3rd place with 7-8 percent ??? : rofl:

Posted 05/01/2011, 00:05:

I'm certainly not a fan of the apple tree)) for me, the android is closer for me, but you are right in every post an apple just compares with the earth. I used it for a month and did not get anything to the crown of pleasant feelings)), something like being so directly likened to apple-phobes))


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nif-nif @ 01/04/2011, 23:52*
try crit

What for?
nif-nif @ 01/04/2011, 23:52*
let me find you teach prog which is not under the poppy? They will be much more.

I have no doubt, though, if you are talking about crit, I want to warn you, be very careful, the most popular Linux programs are on Mac: either natively or through ports. With exactly the same success I can do the opposite. Just what is it for? Do you think that I will need very much those that you call or you, the list of which I will give?

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