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Arthur Gatin
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Now and onsavagemessiahzine.com...
Now, seriously, why don't you like Apple's smartphone?
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1) in Russia is sold for 2 prices.
2) Closeness.
3) The rest of the manufacturers rushed to sculpt the clones.
4) iTunes.


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iTunes ... It's disgusting, but without it :-(
I will not even argue about the price. :-(
But openness ... IMHO is needed only for developers.
The rest of the producers rushed to sculpt the clones.

If something is popular, submission is inevitable ;-)

Posted 04/01/2011, 03:13:

A piece of glass is a matter of taste. But they have a plus: they do not scratch

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Well, I'm more down to earth.

I do not like it only because the iPhone is associated primarily with all sorts of majors.
And in general, I am wary of Apple.

No, the piece of iron is great. I will not argue. Powerful, beautiful, comfortable in many ways. But not for me.

On closeness I somehow not care. This is not for me. If the platform is open, but not popular - it is good for enthusiasts. If the platform is open and popular, it will sooner or later turn into a dustbin.

I really don't like the interface. Especially homescreen.

Arthur Gatin @ 01/04/2011, 03:13*
But they have a plus: they do not scratch

This is you for nothing. Even a grain of sand can harm this glass. There is nothing eternal. Although the glass is really worthy.
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Well, it all depends on the appeal to the device. I know people who, after two years of active use, looked like a new device.
But you are right. Nothing is eternal
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1. For the fact that Apple knows better than me what I need:
- keyboard, dialer, sms - I don’t need the best from Apple and others (until recently, Safari was the only and best browser);
- I do not want to change the interface and icons, because they are the best;
- I do not need to transfer files on bluetooth;
- I do not need to connect the phone as a flash drive to any computer;
- I do not need to install applications, except those in the AppStore;
- I do not need to work in early January: D
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2. For the same devices.Maybe I need a bigger / smaller phone with a certain resolution, plastic / iron / soft touch, a phone or qwerty keyboard, a slider or even a clamshell, but the iPhone can only be this way and only with one button. In his last incarnation, even "the color can be any if this color is black": D
And do not give an example that androids and Windows put all and sundry, and here is one company. Nokia, too, was left alone with Simba - and nothing: on the new Simba, 3 devices for a different taste and wallet were already released for the quarter. In the next six months, another 2-3 devices will appear (including with qwerty).
3. For the implementation of the usual things in their own way:
- iPhone connector - some even claim that it is more popular than microUSB: rofl:
- FaceTime instead of regular video calls. Okay, show off, but why cut a simple video call? FT can only be used with a waffle (and you still need to find it), and besides, you still pay for the call itself (if through the network and only with the Yablochnik, you would transmit voice over IP)
- settings of all programs are collected in one pile. You want to change the settings, exit the program, set your mind, log in, check. Did not like - again we leave ...
4. For pseudo-tasking.Namely, for the behavior of Instant Messenger in the background, when they tear up the connection and do not restore it themselves. Android attracted me, including the fact that all instant messengers and mail themselves receive messages when I am in the network coverage area. I do not need to run the programs every time - the probes of the programs are constantly hanging in the memory (and slowly they eat up the battery: blush :). Those. In this sense, the iPhone did not go anywhere from a regular phone.
5. For show off at the expense of functionality.Apple is proud that the iPhone can be controlled with just one button. So what? In modern axes there are several buttons to control. This allows you to clear the small screen of the smartphone from unnecessary elements that are caused by these buttons. Total we have more useful information.
Here, and impractical (but stylish and beautiful - you can not argue here) the case of the last iPhone. As a result, it is worn in covers and / or with plastic bumpers.

As for the majors that are panting, I don't care. If the unit is good, I will take it.
Money? Well, other top devices are not much cheaper, so if you can take them, you can take an iPhone. Another question: is it necessary? Of course, to take him for 100 pieces at the time of release - you have to be completely: censored: nd.

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khar-selim @ 01/04/2011, 11:39*
- I do not need to install applications, except those in the AppStore;

Cydia for whom?
khar-selim @ 01/04/2011, 11:39*
- I do not need to connect the phone as a flash drive to any computer;

software for this is, and for quite some time. You both came out of the forest.
khar-selim @ 01/04/2011, 11:39*
- FaceTime instead of regular video calls.

Fail again. Skype for iOS supports video calls. And through Wi-Fi, and through 3G. Softina free. It lies in the AppStore, even the jail is not needed.


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demon100500 @ 01/04/2011, 09:55*
Cydia for whom?

demon100500 @ 01/04/2011, 09:55*
software for this is, and for quite some time. You both came out of the forest

This is hacking. Which to the same stick in the wheels of Apple inserts. On the latest firmware, according to the owners, the Jail works before the reboot.
And tell me why, to get basic functions, I have to hack something. By the way, the owners told me that, like a flash drive, the iPhone still doesn’t work - it needs a Windows program. And I, for example, do not keep Windows at home. So the same, only in profile.
demon100500 @ 01/04/2011, 09:55*
Fail again. Skype for iOS supports video calls. And through Wi-Fi, and through 3G. Softina free. It lies in the AppStore, even the jail is not needed.

This program Apple wrote? Not. Third-party software, which was allowed into the app.


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And what's wrong with third-party software?
That's what he and the smartphone to put on him third-party software

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Arthur Gatin,
I did not say that it is bad. I wrote how it implemented Apple without providing regular video calls. Symbian, Winmo, Android 2.3, specifically Samsung Galaxy S from 2.1, Bada can do it, and the iPhone as always in its own way. I wrote that it and I did not like such a show off! : tablet_protiv:

AFAIK before Skype, you could also make video calls over IP.


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khar-selim @ 01/04/2011, 13:04*
And I, for example, do not keep Windows at home

Well, there are not many people like you, you will agree :) 90-93% have a Windows.
khar-selim @ 01/04/2011, 13:24*
Symbian, Winmo, Android 2.3, specifically Samsung Galaxy S since 2.1, Bada can do it

Do you have regular video calls through an operator? It's expensive. Skype is easier and cheaper.

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demon100500 @ 01/04/2011, 11:40*
Well, there are not many people like you, agree with 90-93% there is a Windows.

Well, I came to a man who has a Windows. It is necessary to throw the file. Should I force him to search for a program or keep it on a separate normal flash drive (then why iphone?)? You can connect the hero with any cable (there are so many peripherals with miniUSB), and the iPhone also needs a cable. Hero right therenormallyYou can make the flash drive pretend, and the iPhone (and alreadyhacked! : angry:) you need to download the program. Hurt, convenience!

demon100500 @ 01/04/2011, 11:40*
Do you have regular video calls through an operator?

Me not. I don’t have a front camera either: D I meant, in principle, why remove the function used (by some) and replace it with my own. Yes, and videokayp on the iPhone appeared recently.
It is almost as if the android did not support SMS / MMS, because GTalk / GMail is much cheaper and better. It’s the same here: you can make a video call to any phone with a front camera (it shouldn’t even have a smartphone), you can call via Skype on any computer (I’m talking about a video call), but using Facetime (which was originally on iPhone ) - only on iphone or aimak! In short, using a simple Nokia for 5 ty with a front camera, I can call any of the same mobile phones of any manufacturer, and with an iPhone, only on selected ones or on a PC. Yes, cheaper by IP, but better is more expensive than nothing at all.


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khar-selim @ 01/04/2011, 14:01*
need to download the program. Hurt, convenience!

She put on the phone itself. PwnTunes is called. And the music from the video in the standard "iPod" can be poured past the tuna, and just transfer files. Installed iTunes on the computer is not needed.
And about the lace - there is Wi-Fi. From the iPhone without problems, even from the unlocked, the file server is made. (or "network drive", as familiar to whom)

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demon100500 @ 01/04/2011, 12:03*
She put on the phone itself.

And when connected to a computer, is it visible like a regular flash drive? Those. can it, for example, be connected to a tape recorder with USB (but without specifically iPhone support: D) ​​or can you connect the same Nokia N8 as a guest device?

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khar-selim @ 01/04/2011, 14:14*
And when connected to a computer, is it visible like a regular flash drive?

Yes.
khar-selim @ 01/04/2011, 14:14*
Those. can it, for example, be connected to the radio with USB or to the Nokia N8 as a guest device?

about the radio do not know, in other matters, as well as about the N8. I can't tell you anything here ...

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demon100500,
What kind of program? So far all that I found required additional software on the side of the computer or at least a waffle.


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I wrote above - PwnTunes. In the sidia. But it is paid, no hacked. There is a trial period for 15 days, in my opinion.

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demon100500,
Thanks for the tip - read. It works only with Windows, and on XP some kind of fix should be installed - i.e. without intervention can not do. Well, it is clear the flash drive for H8 is not destiny to become. Plus, the program is unstable, the beta version and also for money (!) - as much as 10 euros (I do not know how in the app store, but for the market it is very expensive for the utility). Right from our Navitel learn.
In general, somehow you can make an iPhone flash drive with certain reservations.


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