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  • the name of your mobile operator, the name of the tariff plan;
  • home region;
  • region of stay, preferably more or less accurate location as in the same region there may be nuances with coverage of cellular networks;
  • what services / options are connected;
  • what you want to get in the end.
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Combining numbers on one personal account
    Beeline: Voice mobile communication and SMS (Post Grandecom # 61272093)
    Megaphone:Association is possible for rooms from one region. Consolidation is free, the withdrawal of the number on a separate l / s - 50 p. The application is filed in the office. There are no restrictions on tariff plans.
    MTS:Association is possible for rooms from one region. The application is filed in the office. Restriction on tariff plans: only tariffs of the Smart line (for physicists), without limitation, under one agreement (for legal entities)
Inactive subscriber. L / s reset and number loss
    Beeline: Voice mobile communication and SMS (Post Lordwind # 66135874)
    Megaphone: Voice mobile communication and SMS (Post Lordwind # 66135874)
    Mts
    The condition for inactivity is non-use of paid communication services.
    From 07.08.2017, the line "Daily payment of 3 rubles. With no consumption of chargeable services within 90 days" appeared on the tariffs without subscription fees.Voice mobile communication and sms (Post dvsof # 75221881)
    If the number enters the financial blocking, then no later than the 10th day of the month following the month in which the balance reached the minimum write-off threshold, the Final Block is set on the number and the contract is closed by number.
    Financial blocking - minus in the account or the amount is less than the amount of daily debit.
    I will clarify that, in support of VIP clients, they voiced the period of being in financial blocking for up to 180 days and even longer. But the unequivocal NO about the possibility of closing the contract for the next month, after falling into a financial block, did not sound. So everything is at the discretion of the operator.
    TP "Basic 092013"
    Tele2 Russia
    The condition of non-activity is non-use of paid communication services or non-replenishment of the personal account.
    In the absence of deductions for services / recharge of the personal account, within 120 days, the daily subscription fee begins to be charged. If the balance of the Subscriber’s personal account is found to be equal to or lower than zero within 180 (one hundred and eighty) consecutive calendar days, the contract for the provision of communication services shall be deemed terminated at the initiative of the Subscriber.
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    The list of actions that are considered "activity":
    1. Any cash flows - payments, debits, adjustments.
    2. Availability of active packages and options.
    3. Incoming voice calls are received by you (for this, a phone with a SIM card must be turned on and registered on the network).
    4. Incoming SMS delivered to you (for this phone with a SIM-card must be enabled and registered on the network).
    5. Outgoing voice calls (except for calls to emergency services such as 112, 01, 02, etc.).
    6. Outgoing SMS delivered to recipients (with the exception of SMS to our support service - SMS chat).

    If none of these actions is performed within 90 days, the subscription fee of 150 rubles per month is included. When the balance is 0, the contract will be terminated, provided that the SIM card is still inactive (exceptions: The number is not purchased for money. The number is not transferred by MNP.)
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Protection against paid subscriptions
    Beeline:The ban on paid subscriptions is connected through the call center operator
    Megaphone
    Voice mobile communication and SMS (Post Lordwind # 70050587)
    * 526 # - activation of the service: Banning of paid content numbers (a service for subscribers of the Ural branch of MegaFon PJSC. Valid only on the territory of the Ural branch)
    Mts
    * 984 # - ban content
    At this time, when connecting to or switching to the TP of the Smart line, the Content prohibition service is automatically connected
    Tele2 Russia
    The content personal account is connected when you personally contact the operator’s office or via the support service in Viber messenger.
    * 160 # - checking the balance of the personal account.
    Refusal of unwanted paid WEB-subscriptions
    * 931 # - connect / check status
    * 931 * 0 # - disable [/ COLOR]
Free spam protection
    Beeline: Antispam protection
    Megaphone: Antispam 1911
    Mts
    Cancellation from SMS mailings from short numbers and alpha-numbering.
    unsubscribe from SMS mailings from DEF-numbers(from standard numbers of mobile subscribers)
    Ban on receiving informational SMS and SMS / MMS from the MTS websiteallows to refuse advertising informational messages of MTS and SMS, MMS from the site, as well as informational texts in service messages (for example, added to balance messages when requesting * 100 #)
    Tele2 Russia
    To activate the service, and later add a number to Anti-Spam, you can send a free SMS to the number 345, in the message text you can specify a number or an alias that needs to be blocked. Federal numbers are indicated in the format 8ХХХХХХХХХХ. Non-federal numbers, such as + 4ХХХХХХХХХХ, + 700ХХХХХХХ, 8800ХХХХХХХ, etc., are indicated without a “+” sign.
    To remove a number or nickname from the list - send an SMS to the number 345 with the text: 0 * [number to unlock]
    To view the list of numbers added to Antispam SMS - send an SMS to the number 345 with the text: 1

Transfer of minutes, sms, traffic to the next month
  • MTS (tariffs Smart (archive), Smart Unlimited (archive), Smart +, Smart Top, Ultra).No carryon Smart TP for their own, Smart mini, as well as on new Smart TP (from 09.2018), My Smart.
  • Tele2 Russia (TP My line, corporate tariffs 2018) and virtual operators on its network (Rostelecom, TTK mobile, Tinkoff Mobile, etc.)
Transfer number to another operator
Since the last transfer of the number to another operator should be more than 60 days. The new number can be transferred immediately after activation.
Before, or immediately after, applying for a number transfer, visit the office of the “old” opsoz and check passport data. They must be a letter in a letter, as in a passport.
The minimum time to complete the transfer, it is the default period - 8 calendar days. In the application, you can specify a later date of transition, up to 6 months from the date of filing the application for number portability.
The transfer fee is 100 rubles. A part of the opsoks does the transfer for free, a part - compensates for the transfer fee by charging to the account / account.
In the office of the "new" opsoza, you will be given a new SIM card. Depending on the operator, the SIM card will be with or without a temporary number. The transferred number will be tied to the same account for which the temporary number was attached, so the balance will not be reset after transferring your number.
For a successful transfer, it is necessary not only to update the passport data, but also to maintain, until the transfer of the number, a positive balance with the "old" opsoss. The balance, after the transfer, can be transferred to the l / account issued for you or your bank account.
Before transferring the number, employees of the “old” opsoz can call and offer a discount or a non-public rate.
On the day of transfer, there may be interruptions in the provision of communication services.
Tele2 Russia
Avting number transfer is possible both by submitting an application in the office and by applying on the website. At the beginning of August 2018, the transfer fee is not taken. A sim card with a temporary number can be purchased both at the time of filing the application and before submitting the application for transfer, but not earlier than 2 weeks on the day of transfer of the number.
After registration of the application for transfer, you will receive an SMS with the application number. If not, call support. An employee of the communication salon may make a request with a delay or not start at all.
The transfer will be performed between 2 and 4 am on the appointed day.
Disable advertising from the SIM menu
Megaphone: service Kaleidoscope, disconnection: * 808 * 0 #
MTS: MTS-Info service, disconnection: * 111 * 1212 * 2 #
Beeline: Chameleon service, shutdown: * 110 * 20 #

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bought the tariff "first child".
up to 30 rubles, you can go to minus.
for incoming calls you go denyuzhki (a little, a penny, I did not notice the sales)
On the Internet the usual prices, when I know that I will download, I buy a gprs package.
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MTS started testing street radio coverage of 3G network in Moscow
April 21, 2009

Moscow, Russia - Mobile TeleSystems OJSC (NYSE: MBT), the largest cellular operator in Russia and the CIS, announces the start of testing of the radio coverage of the third generation network in Moscow.

It is planned that research, which will allow to confirm the possibility and conditions for the joint operation of external radio coverage of the third generation network (3G) with radio electronic means of military purpose, will be completed before the end of June 2009.

Also, MTS informs about the receipt of the conclusion of the examination of the Main Radio Frequency Center about the possibility of using 3G base stations in buildings and structures of Moscow, the Moscow metro, as well as in the Moscow region. In particular, the conclusion determines the operating parameters of base stations 3G in terms of power, height and directivity of antennas. This conclusion will allow MTS to obtain a permit for commercial operation of the 3G network in these areas and to start providing services to subscribers.

The first fragments of the third generation MTS network in Moscow and the Moscow Region may be put into commercial operation this year.

№ "Conclusion of the examination of the possibility of using radio-electronic means and their electromagnetic compatibility with existing and planned for use of radio-electronic means."


A source :MTS website


Without a doubt, it will be interesting to see in this topic not only news from MTS, but also the success of other operators in the implementation of the 3G network in the Moscow region.

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Yes, it is like a breath of fresh air, the main thing is that everything goes well and what has waited so long at last will appear (it would be nice also at standard frequencies).

It is thought if MTS will launch and other. The assists will catch up,
MegaFon, for example, already has test zones in Moscow.


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Roskomnadzor decided on the frequency assignments of the "big three" for 3G networks inMoscow and Moscow region

MOSCOW, May 6th. / Prime-Tass /. The Order of Roskomnadzor made a decision on the assignment / assignment / radio frequencies of 2.1 GHz for the base stations of the operators of third generation cellular networks (3G) deployed in Moscow, the Moscow region, as well as a number of oblasts of the Central region. This was reported to PRIME-TASS by the press service of the Ministry of Communications and Mass Media.

The technical design of the relevant permissions for the use of radio frequencies by Mobile TeleSystems / MTS / (MTSS), MegaFon and VimpelCom / Beeline / (VIMP) companies will be carried out as soon as possible.

This will allow all three companies to build commercial 3G networks and present them to supervisory authorities for commissioning.

The assignment of radio frequencies became possible after the operators received positive results of field tests for electromagnetic compatibility / EMC / equipment of 3G networks with radio electronic equipment for military use. In Moscow, the possibility of deploying 3G networks in the metro and indoor / in-door / has been investigated.

In addition, the restrictions for base stations located on the street / out-door / outside the 100 km zone from Moscow are partially lifted.

The decision will allow operators to fulfill license conditions in terms of the timing of the commencement of communication services in a number of areas of the Central Region.

Informed sources in the industry told PRIME-TASS that MTS and the Metropolitan Branch of MegaFon OJSC may receive permits already tomorrow.

VimpelCom OJSC said that until May 15, the company expects to receive frequency assignments for 3G networks in premises in Moscow and outdoors in the Moscow region.

In addition, VimpelCom completed radio frequency compatibility tests for 3G networks outdoors in Moscow and expects to receive an opinion of the Main Radio Frequency Center / HRTC / test results in June.

As previously reported by Prime-Tass, MTS, VimpelCom and MegaFon in 2007 received licenses for 3G services of the UMTS standard in the 2.1 GHz band in all regions of Russia, including Moscow and the Moscow Region.

Companies are already putting 3G into commercial operation in various regions of Russia, but in Moscow and the Moscow Region they have so far been unable to do this because of the unresolved issue of sharing the 2.1 GHz band with military and other government agencies.

06.05.2009


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Happiness is near!

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Yes, no, not what 3G in Moscow. I read that the purity of 3G coincide with the frequencies of the air defense and about 3g in the near future is out of the question. If only underground. In the Moscow metro.
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First, all in the store for new devices or batteries! 3g network + Bayan icq or Smaper is 8-12 hours of H95 life or 5 hours for Nokia 6120! If I come to a city or a country where there is 3g, I really don't use it, well, well, it's cool, well, iron is not old enough ...


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I wonder who the thread in Moscow from the members of the 3G forum has already been tested? And if so, where?
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Football @ 13.5.09, 12:40*
And I really want to see the treasured 3G icon on my device

and I still sometimes have “H”;)


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noval4 @ 13.5.09, 13:22*
When we launch 3G, we did not need to change any SIMs. Everything works great on the old SIM.

Do not confuse open and closed testing. When MTS-Moscow starts open testing 3G, it will work on old SIMKs, but for now, as I wrote. OPSOS now test 3G in closed mode, so even the operating time of the 3G-BSki can be strictly regulated.


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Isn't a USIM card needed for identification in a 3G network? I know that Megafon was originally from 2002, but Beelin and MTS saved,
although there was talk that the MTS a year and a half ago also began to sell USIM in some regions.


MTS will begin construction of a 3G network in Moscow from the Sokolnicheskaya line to the Moscow Metro. MTS plans to launch a 3G network in the 35 largest business centers, at transport hubs and in public places of the capital. Among them are the Domodedovo airport terminal complex, the Expocenter, the World Trade Center, large shopping centers and offices of the largest enterprises. When the 3G network will be released on the streets of Moscow - will be known in June of this year.
08.05.09


In the 4th quarter of 2009, Megafon intends to commercialize a third-generation (3G) cellular network in Moscow and the Moscow Region. All the necessary preparatory work is scheduled for completion in the summer. The company now has enough funds to immediately start with a large number of base stations and then actively develop the 3G network in the metropolitan area for as long as it takes. According to experts, for the organization of radio coverage of the 3G network of the UMTS standard in the 2.1 GHz band in Moscow at the first stage, a minimum of about 500 base stations will be required. For the organization of a complete radio coverage of the 3G network in Moscow, about 1,500 base stations are needed, and in total in the Moscow region, including the Moscow region - about 4,000 base stations.
07.05.09


Roskomnadzor has allocated MTS, Beeline and Megafon 3G frequencies in Moscow, the Moscow region and some regions of the Central region. For now, operators will be able to deploy 3G networks on the territory of Moscow only in the metro and indoors. Restrictions on the construction of outdoor base stations of 3G networks outside the 100-kilometer zone from Moscow will be partially removed. As for the "outdoor" 3G in the city, the MTS and Beeline have recently completed tests of the radio frequency compatibility of radio electronic means of a third-generation cellular network outside the premises in Moscow with a RES for military purposes. The documents with test results were submitted for approval to the structures of the Ministry of Defense, after which they will be sent to the Main Radio Frequency Center for a conclusion on the possibility of operating the MTS 3G network in Moscow outdoors. Operators expect to receive the opinion of HRCC in June of the current year. After that, they will be able to apply for receiving radio frequency assignments to deploy a commercial 3G network outside the premises in Moscow.
07.05.09


a source

still

The first base stations of the third generation (3G) cellular network in Moscow VimpelCom plans to launchalready in May , reported Strana.Ru company spokeswoman Ksenia Korneeva ..

a source

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Russia's largest telecom has shared a 3G primary network coverage plan


MTS 3G network map in Moscow


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Expocentre is the first facility in Moscow where the 3G network from MTS operates

Mobile operator MTS today announced the launch of the third phase of its third generation network (3G) in Moscow in commercial operation, which is located in the Expocenter exhibition complex.

The corresponding permission was issued today by the Office of Rossvyazkomnadzor in Moscow and the Moscow Region.
The operator reports that a fragment of the 3G network covers all the pavilions of the exhibition center on Krasnaya Presnya. Subscribers located in the pavilions of Expocentre will be provided with the possibility of high-speed Internet access, up to 3.6 Mbit per second, at any point of the 3G network.
In the near future, MTS is also awaiting the receipt of permits for commercial operation of 3G networks in two cities of the Moscow Region - Orekhovo-Zuyevo and Noginsk.
MTS promises that by the end of summer, the 3G network from MTS will appear in the 35 largest business centers, transportation hubs and public places of the capital, including in the Domodedovo airport complex, in the Moscow City area, Crocus City, Center International Trade Center, Novinsky Business Center, Arbat-Alfa-Center, Lotte Plaza, TSUM, Atrium, Evropeisky, Moscow, Gorbushkin Dvor, IKEA shopping centers. In addition, MTS will provide 3G communications to the largest Moscow enterprises, including Russian Railways, Sberbank of Russia, AFK Sistema, Sibur, Wimm Bill Dann and others.
MTS received permission to launch the “new generation” network also at stations and sections of the Moscow metro. Sokolnicheskaya branch of the Moscow metro will be the first where MTS will launch a 3G network in test operation.
On May 8, 2008, MTS received UMTS radio frequencies of 2.1 GHz for base stations of cellular networks of the “third generation” in Moscow, Moscow Region, as well as in a number of regions of the Central region of the Russian Federation.
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Who potestit, especially if you live near, sign off, Pts interesting: P

And does it work with old SIM-cards, and especially with Multi-SIM-cards! ??

Well, that started, but it is a pity that inside the premises, for now ..

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The Office of Roskomnadzor in Moscow and the Moscow region issued to the operators of the “big three” permits for the operation of base stations intended for the deployment of 3G networks
According to the results of the work of the acceptance commissions, the Roskomnadzor Office in Moscow and the Moscow Region issued Mobile TeleSystems OJSC, VimpelCom OJSC and MegaFon OJSC permission to operate communication facilities - base stations (first stage of construction) intended for the deployment of 3G networks.

At the first stage, the base stations will be operated in accordance with the frequency permits within the premises (exhibitions, train stations, shopping centers, office buildings, etc.), as well as in the metro.

At the first stage, OJSC Mobile TeleSystems built three WCDMA base stations of the IMT-2000 / UMTS standard at the Expocenter at 14 Krasnopresnenskaya Embankment, pavilions: №2, №7 and the Forum pavilion.

OJSC VimpelCom put into operation two base stations: Khimki, Khimki-Center, Liga shopping center; Krasnopresnenskaya ul., 4 office of VimpelCom OJSC, upgraded the packet data transmission subsystem, putting into operation a data access network node.

Megafon OJSC in the first segment of the 3G network put into operation 10 base stations, including the WeiMarat shopping center (MKAD, 26 km), the Varshavsky shopping center, the Novinsky passage shopping and business center, October field.

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People 3g Appeared at a megaphone and in Dinskaya st. ... (this Krasnodar region) need to take a new sim card ... internet 3 rub / mb after gig 75 kopecks .... have not yet driven on it ... but advertising to hell ...

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15.06.09, 16:10
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Yes, it means that you will have to change SIM cards all the time, it saddens you ... because I use a multi-sim with a few "clones" on it.


Interestingly, and without a new sim card, you can "see" 3G?
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15.06.09, 22:18
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Dimsml @ 15.6.09, 17:10*
Interestingly, and without a new sim card, you can "see" 3G?

Watching where. Check with your operator.


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Dimsml,can. A 3G icon appears on the device. The main thing is that he supports this standard ...


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16.06.09, 11:32
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but calls are expensive .... 4 rub / min sms 2

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