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SONY VAIO P50 / P61 / P91 / P VGN-P21S / W



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Sony Vaio P50
Windows xp
1.33GHz Intel Atom CPU Z520
80GB HDD (no SSD on this model)
1GB RAM, (can not upgrade the RAM)
Internal Bluetooth, no webcam, no GPS on this model
WiFi Wireless LAN 802.11 b / g / n (standard)
WWAN (3G / HSDPA) included as standard!
WWAN requires unlock to work
3 colors (White, Red, Green)
Keyboard Japanese international (no other options)
Sony Vaio P61
Windows xp
1.6GHz Z530 (2.0 GHz Z550 Option)
60GB / 80GB HDD
(32GB SSD Option)
1GB RAM
NO Webcam, NO GPS
Bluetooth on every model
WiFi Wireless LAN 802.11 b / g / n (standard)
WWAN (3G / HSDPA) optional extra
WWAN requires unlock to work
8 colors
2 Keyboard colors (Brown / Silver)
Sony Vaio P91
Windows vista
1.6GHz Z530 (2.0 GHz Z550 Optional)
60GB / 80GB HDD (64GB / 128GB SSD Option)
(256GB SSD Option)
2GB RAM, SDHC & Mem Stick high speed Slots (standard)
webcam (optional), Bluetooth (optional)
WiFi Wireless LAN 802.11 b / g / n (standard)
GPS / WWAN (3G / HSDPA) optional extra
WWAN requires unlock to work (see notes)
8 colors (see below)
2 Keyboard colors (Brown / Silver)
Sony Vaio P VGN-P21S / W
Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 3
Intel® Atom ™ Z520 1.33 Processor US15W
DDR2 SDRAM (1x1GB on board)
Hard Drive Capacity (GB) 60
Mobile Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 500
Memory Stick â„¢ Duo, Memory Stick â„¢ PRO Duo, high speed data transfer
Everywair Wireless WAN 7.2Mbps (HSDPA / HSUPA, UMTS, EDGE, GPRS)
Wireless LAN Type 802.11b / g / Draft n
Integrated Bluetooth (Version) 2.1 + EDR
Reviews
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Nothing such a model P90. Was in a shopping center on the Haymarket. So they opened a store there and
which was very beautiful, four models demonstrated this Sonya P90. Girly pretty
in identical wigs, mini-skirts, on high heels ... and P90 is also a good modelka.
She will find her buyers.


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Marvi @ 9.3.2009, 17:48*
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Not understood...

the masses to know about it is not necessary
What is it like? And who refused to bring the Gigabyte M912 to netbooks because, he says, dear?

He also with a touch screen, for which he was exiled to umpts

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Arahnid @ 9.3.2009, 18:35*
Exactly! But usually the masses litter on the forum about the high cost and begin to compare the characteristics of the budget models.

I do not mean it

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Anathema @ 9.3.2009, 14:50*
mur-mur-meow,it's not about numbers, but about positioning - his name is netbook. The netbook is first and foremost a cheap ...


I would not say that the same psion netbook was a cheap device


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mur-mur-meow @ 9.3.2009, 23:52*
the masses to know about it is not necessary

Yeah. Now I understand. And I remembered that somewhere I had already heard that. And even remembered where.
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it is also touch screen

Does the touchscreen prevent it from being a netbook? o.O


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Marvi @ 10.3.2009, 8:08*
Yeah. Now I understand. And I remembered that somewhere I had already heard that. And even remembered where.

there are flaws that you don’t need to know about, because it doesn’t greatly affect the operation of the device and will cause an unnecessary flame


What will the infa and problems with the backlight give you?
when on the apple monitors there was a pink illumination of the lower left corner and this was the way the calibrators went to the roof and there were problems with preparing materials for printing - this is one thing, and you will not notice
Does the touchscreen prevent it from being a netbook? o.O

does not interfere, but it is assigned to other devices within the framework of the moderation policy, if you do not like it, you can appeal in the prescribed manner


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Arahnid @ 9.3.2009, 19:35*
But usually the masses litter on the forum about the high cost and begin to compare the characteristics of the budget models

Not exactly :) Some litter. And so - this is an exchange of views and information. Say, I, as the owner of an expensive computer from Sony, after buying and testing, umm ... well, let's say, I have less confidence in this company. The hardware and assembly as a whole are of high quality, although with bills, but the support, may the company forgive me, is not very. That is not at all. It’s a different matter that sometimes the buyer simply has no choice, since the Sonevskaya technique in some things has practically no competitors, this is just my case.
And, I confess, now, after 3.5 months of operation, I would not choose a computer from Sony if I knew the nuances then. So let others know :)

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slimest @ 10.3.2009, 20:46*
And, I confess, now, after 3.5 months of operation, I would not choose a computer from Sony if I knew the nuances then. So let others know :)

Well, I would choose a poppy and have other problems: P


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I have 2 of them already and there is no program and everything suits. Although I even used Sonkovsky support, I was completely satisfied with everything. Maybe it's just your case, so far everything is fine with me with this company.

The only thing that upsets is that the devices only have regional support, where you bought it and support it.
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mur-mur-meow @ 11.3.2009, 0:49*
Well, I would choose a poppy and have other problems

It is possible, probably even :)

Arahnid @ 11.3.2009, 19:30*
I used sonkovskiy support, I was completely satisfied

In general, I’m not talking about support when you ask questions, but they answer you. I’m talking about, say, confusion on ftp support, the release of a bios update specifically for my computer with an older firmware version than I’ve already installed (and it’s unrealistic to go back) that crashed control buttons after installing the latest update of the corresponding software (Sonevsky update, for my computer). There were also problems - with the original drivers, with the FireWire connector, which Sony with obscure persistence makes four-contact instead of six-pin (and the cord did not climb into that connector), etc. And I also played questions and answers when I doubted the novelty of a freshly laid out bios. The support service answered me in about a week - one and a half: rofl: I also work in the support service in a serious company, so if our support worked like that, they would have kicked out the nafik :)

Colleagues, I do not want to give the impression that I am selling Sony products. Great technique. I simply call for a careful assessment of what you pay for or are going to pay money, and a lot.

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Today turned the machine in his hands. The screen corners and lights are not very. Not so bad, but TXs get better. Klava is super. The trackpoint is not annoying. Not yet pleased with the absence of a regular ethernet connector. Well, the brakes. I don’t know how the 1.6MHz model will be, but 1.33 in combination with the performance cut down by Intel's performance is not encouraging. In whist, the windows move with jerks, the video of 720 lines slows down.

IMHO add a little and will be the perfect netbook. And do not care to price. Cheap options like dirt.
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Question to those who bought Sonya: what is the question with installing XP?
I just understand that half of the standard iron, but for example the camera and the SIM module with this problem?
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and yet I would like to know about the shortcomings of this model, directly from the mouth of the owner ...


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Why, I also wanted ... Directly ...
And the owner clearly said:
mur-mur-meow @ 10.3.2009, 9:24*
there are flaws that you don’t need to know about, because it doesn’t greatly affect the operation of the device and will cause an unnecessary flame



Posted on 03/24/2009 08:28:

and further
mur-mur-meow @ 9.3.2009, 23:52*
the masses to know about it is not necessary

We have such rockets ...
But we will not tell you about them!


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GyGyGy and then I will come and ruin everything. : D

I found a user review, and he specifically said that he did not like.

So, let's proceed to the story (or rather the translation)

Appearance:The device is strong and shiny, only the battery and the keyboard trim do not shine, everything else is glossy, the output is clear - there will be prints, although they are very easily removed, so it's normal. It weighs less than Asus 701.

Screen:Small but chic. Everyone understands the problem - very small, the author complains that for the first run I had to use a magnifying glass, as it is hard to see, but then he increased the icons and the font in Windows, so it became more comfortable.

Keyboard:well, problems here begin. The keyboard move is so small that the author does not even feel depressed, the closest analogy in his words is that pressing a finger on the sooooo thin piece of foam rubber, clicks are also not audible, so you can print silently. The keyboard is not replaceable (which is generally understandable), the key layout is the same as that of Asus 701.

Mouse / touchpad:They are not: D. There is a trackpoint, the author liked it, although to make the press you have to press hard. Typing on the keyboard is not particularly convenient (especially the letters G, H, B) - The finger touches the trackpoint and you get random clicks, mouse movements. True, there is a function to disable the trackpoint when printing, but for the author it did not work properly.

Communications:Everything is normal, but the power of wireless interfaces is lower than that of Asus 701. No other problems were noticed.

Iron:Oh yes, the most fun is here. The author does not want to upset anyone, but it slows down (According to him, it seems like Pentium 3). Feels like the author can be compared to the overclocked Celeron from Asus. And the overclocked Asus (even with Celeron) will leave Sony far behind (from the author Atom z 520). The graphics core even supports Dx 10, but it also slows down. Plus there were problems with playing video (drivers are buggy). Even with transparency turned off in Aero brakes are observed.

System:The author has a version with Vista Basic, as mentioned above - it slows down. Plus, problems with firewood, as well as a whole heap of advertising stuff and the user’s perpetual asking for polls.

Benchmark:1.33GHz processor Graphics in Performance mode 1101 points in 3DMark 2001SE.
The Eee PC 701 (Celeron) at 630MHz receives an average of 1400 points, while at 1170MHz it gets 3500 points.
Eee 901 at 1.86GHz (Atom) Receives 3400 points on average.

As mentioned above - not a fountain.

So here, although the author considers it a worthy acquisition, at least from behind the screen. It has a battery (2100mAh) for 1.5 - 2.5 hours in Internet / WiFi mode, office work, etc. (Sony promised 4 hours, in general, as always, this time should be divided by 2). It would be nice if Sonya for such money still crammed in there.
Okay.

Translator's note (i.e. me):Original here:http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=59968
Oh, read it, read it and understand: if I had a choice between Sony P90 and Raon Note, I would have taken the second without hesitation, but by design - white brick, but in a rather small volume - powerful hardware and another XP instead of Vist ` s, which frankly slows down. And you choose yourself, but remember that we have warned you.

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There is a trackpoint, the author liked it, although to make the press you have to press hard.

My Fujik P1610 is smarter. In addition to the trackpoint (I, by the way, also like it), separately under the space are 2 mouse keys.


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As far as I understand, the mouse buttons are also there, the author was talking about the trackpoint.

So I went around them, most likely it is the left, right and middle buttons.

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Yes, right, it is. And between them is the trackpoint off key.
In principle, all this is a convenient system. But if a trackpoint outage is buggy ... Then, how can I put it more softly ...
Everything went to look for the right word.

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I will give the site for this device in good hands.
It was made solely for the sake of a hobby, I assumed that I could buy it for myself, but unfortunately I could not, and probably I can not soon ...
And the site is a pity - vaio-p (dot) ru
News feed on wordpress, forum - phpbb3.
Now the whole is dirtied with spam, but I can clean it.
There was a small promotion on the subject in I, registration in catalogs, etc.
Judging by the counter li.ru there are live visits on topical requests from search engines ...

I give as root, hosting, I guarantee everything ...

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Dimsml,
I especially like Tupism about Iron. How can he compare the asus 701 with Sonya ??? Asus ala whist worth? : lol:

Much of his negative is purely subjective.
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But Vista + brakes are a weak processor unfortunately quite real :(

And the Atom 1.2 GHz + Intel GMA 500 combination is obviously weaker than the Atom 1.6 GHz + Intel GMA 950.
Just a pity that the device for such a price is so slow, I was expecting more, to be honest.

Also, don't forget - I just translated. ;)

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