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(read carefully before asking questions. If they ask questions that are answered in the FAQ, then the punishment will follow)

What is HD Mobile Video:
HD Mobile Video:
Resolution: at least 800 horizontal dots. At least 300 vertical dots
Codec: h.264
Video bitrate: 750 kbps
Audio Codec: AAC
Audio Bitrate: 128 kbps
Container: mp4
Source: HDTV (-Rip), BlueRay (-Rip), HDDVD (-Rip)
Supported devices:
All devices with Qualcomm 7200A, 7201A, 7206A processors with 800x480 and 640x480 displays (preferably converted to this resolution separately)
How to open:
To select a program with which you want to open video files, you need to open an alternative file manager (for exampleResco explorer), long press on the file - Open - Open with the help - Select the desired application (HTCAlbum or Windows Media). Do not forget to tick "enclose the path in double quotes" and "Always open this program to open files of this type."
How to convert:
Method. Touch HD Video Converter
Instruction:
1) Download the latest versionHTC Touch HD Video Converter
2) Open Encoder.exe
3) Click "Add ..."
4) Choose the movie source, click ok
5) We are waiting for "Start"
6) We expect all 3 passes (pass)
What to open:
HTC Touch HD and MAX 4G:
HTC Album
Benefits:
Standard application from HTC, simple interface
It can show the video as the original proportions (black bars) and the entire screen, cutting.
Disadvantages:
When playing HD Mobile video, when rewinding or exiting, it behaves inadequately: it can hang up to 2 minutes, not responding to commands, while continuing to play video
Windows media player
Benefits:
Adequate behavior compared to HTC Album: when operating with a player while playing HD Mobile video, it works 4 times faster
More usable interface, on the panel there is volume, scrolling, etc.
Disadvantages:
When viewing "Full Screen", the player forcibly cuts the edges, you can not watch with black stripes
It makes no sense to open with CorePlayer, it does not support a video accelerator and you will get about 40% performance at the output.
References:

What to do to improve playback:
Have a class 6 memory card, which means that data is transferred at a speed of 6 MB / s
Where to download finished movies:
Section "Video for PDA" on Free-Torrents.org

To display only the distribution of high-quality mobile video, you need to top in the "Display Options" insert "[HD Mobile]" (with quotes)


Post has been editedeXodusN - 30.04.10, 23:01
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I do not quite understand what you are looking at 1.5GB rips?
CorePlayer does not eat as3,
and tcpmp as3 understands but scales horribly bad
and the colors are rotten
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traum88 @ 8.1.2009, 0:20*
why it is impossible to use this accelerator just in ordinary rips?

The problem is that Qualcomm did not previously give information on its chips and CorePlayer programmers were forced to do reverse engineering to enable support for the accelerator. And they (programmers) found out that the design of the chip changes (?!) From batch to batch, so full support could not be made.
They recently announced that they had found a common language with Kvalkom and will soon include support for a hardware accelerator.
Here it is.


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Understandable, so I hope, with the next version of coreplayer on the device, you can watch dvd rips without conversion.
I tried to set a 2 megabit video bitrate in touch hd converter - refuses - resets to one. It turns out 1 mbps - this is the maximum with this program.

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why it is impossible to use this accelerator just in ordinary rips?

The blame is Broadcomm, which accused Qualcomm of illegally using its technology in its processors. After that, all datasheets from processors were removed from the public access. Because There are no datasheets, there is no normal support, in the same coreplayer for example.


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I installed a 14 gig file from full full nd (1080), a dual core 2 GHz laptop, both processors are squared 60% of the time, an hour and a half has passed, 80% of everything is ready. So purely protest.
A strange accelerator is obtained in the ND, it is not the hardware that processes the video stream by the hardware, but it does the processing to it, but it (I think it is) loses it. Cool. They threw us again, everything as always.
For the sake of interest, I started the Dell 51v with the Nvidievsky accelerator, and ND, so ND did not lie near the speed with the same quality in Korea.
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I repeat, who does not like it - you can not go into the topic, you do not need to go into the topic with morals that go to the cinema. I like it and so!

I repeat for the 10th time, half the meaning of the whole undertaking -trendThis is the 1st full support of the video accelerator in HD and HD playback of high resolution video, and at this stage there will be people who will watch. I don’t understand why there’s nagging about the fact that everyone doesn’t like it - everyone doesn’t like it, so I’ll be happy that HD plays 800x480 video without brakes, as a fact, and high quality playback - as a result.

In the future, please express only constructive suggestions \ opinions \ problems, etc. Thank you
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:) Take it easy with expressions ... And this post is an obvious flood.
Another request to the author of the topic - do not get involved in excessive quoting ...

Raised the first post in the topic header!
Edited the title of the topic.


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Thanks for the interesting topic. And how can you estimate the load (and HD power consumption) with this playback?

Is it possible that the power consumption will drop and the battery life will increase?
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a123_,You are welcome. I can’t determine in any way, there is no money, the only thing I can say is that the video in this quality is played and does not slow down. Personally, my opinion is that even with the support of the accelerator, the processor works at the limit, because without an accelerator, the performance of the same film is 42%, that is, the accelerator increases productivity by more than 2 times, I think that with a resolution of 800x480, the processor is not sweet

Regarding the 2nd part of the question, I think on the contrary, the energy consumption may increase by 20 percent, and may not increase

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And what options to put in the windows "video" and "audio"?
I press "start" and in response silence ... Maybe I’m not starting something like that? I unpacked the archive and launched it from the * .exe folder. What else does it need?

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edward_k @ 7.1.2009, 14:05*
And what options to put in the windows "video" and "audio"?

In principle, at its discretion. recommended: video - 750, audio - 128

edward_k @ 7.1.2009, 14:05*
I press "start" and in response silence ... Maybe I’m not starting something like that? I unpacked the archive and launched it from the * .exe folder. What else does it need?

1) It is necessary to set the save folder correctly
2) In principle, this is how it should be, click on the old one and wait 15 minutes, the position of the progress bar will increase

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EXodusN @ 7.1.2009, 23:59*
b-c-k, wait all 4 passes?

Down there is a progress bar and a pass counter, there are 4 of them, i.e. The progress bar should go through 4 passes and stop at the end of the 4th, i.e. 4/4 should be written and progress bar should be filled


I am waiting for 4 passes from 4.
I tried on small clips, my flattened 8500th quickly figs ... the result is zero.

I found out what's the matter - the prog does not like characters in the paths except letters. I had # and underscores in the paths.
and the characters should not be in any of the three ways - from where, where the program itself lies.

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I have this picture (at the end there is a coded file, everything is ok)

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In general, after recoding a famous Rolega with a squirrel 800x480 on which the bark gave 75-80% of this prog, the bark began to give 108%
only now the encoding process for me will be a dreary spts: (- first you need to cut in virtualdab, correct the characteristics of the image, and then convert this prog ....

when playing Rolegov with the manic player, there is no absolute smoothness, i.e. subjectively as well as the cortex.


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b-c-k @ 7.1.2009, 15:36*
In general, after recoding a famous Rolega with a squirrel 800x480 on which the bark gave 75-80% of this prog, the bark began to give 108%
only now the encoding process for me will be a dreary spts: (- first you need to cut in virtualdab, correct the characteristics of the image, and then convert this prog ....

when playing Rolegov with the manic player, there is no absolute smoothness, i.e. subjectively as well as the cortex.

It is written not in the cap, the core does not support the video accelerator, to support the video accelerator - to play with a standard album, here all the raisins

Tomorrow I will lay out the finished film, the difference will be visible there, in the bark 42%, and in the album it does not slow down

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EXodusN @ 8.1.2009, 1:39*
It is written not in the cap, the core does not support the video accelerator, to support the video accelerator - to play with a standard album, here all the raisins

Tomorrow I will lay out the finished film, the difference will be visible there, in the bark 42%, and in the album it does not slow down


on the fence it is also written ... that I am stupid chtoli at all ... I say before recoding a bench in the bark gave 75-80% after recoding gives 108%

After recoding your movie in the crust, you scroll and see between 103 and 110% of the film, but 40% doesn’t play a role that was transcoding, it’s not in the standard and 40% is not.


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b-c-k @ 7.1.2009, 15:51*
on the fence it is also written ... that I am stupid chtoli at all ... I say before recoding a bench in the bark gave 75-80% after recoding gives 108%

After recoding your movie in the crust, you scroll and see between 103 and 110% of the film, but 40% doesn’t play a role that was transcoding, it’s not in the standard and 40% is not.


The main thing: before recoding, I don’t even take into account and do not measure, HD will not open the source file 5 GB
How many s can be repeated, now explain ACCESSIBLE, just read CAREFULLY.

The performance improvement in CorePlayer you have is associated with a decrease in bitrate, with nothing more. This is a small increase, he has nothing to do with it.

I: initially have a file5 gb, film. I encode it with this converter. The output file with the resolution800x450and weighing800 mbflow750 kbps. Everything, he is 1, nobody touches him, he is AFTER recoding. I open CorePlayer'om - performance42%I open the album -NOT BRAKED!

More than 2 times increase in performance is not associated with a bitrate reduction, but with the support of the integrated video accelerator!

Here, who still did not understand, shot the video, everything is clearVideo demo

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eXodusN,again you convert the video, and iphone put it in reproach. But in general, how, satisfied with the transition?
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Less than 4 hours later the envelope ended, a full ND 1080 with AC3 weighing 18 gigs was 500 kilos. All by default, bit rate was like 600.
What I tried
1. Dell 51v Core slows down, benchmark seems to be 65%. You can watch with a hard time.
2. ND in Kore - 51%, you can not watch at all, not even a slide show.
3. ND in VMP - it looks just supper, the quality is excellent, the sound does not lag behind at all.
MIRACLES, and only.
True to convert under 4 hours is harsh, although we must try some movie in the resolution of ND to download and convert.

Yes, I can put it somewhere. if you teach how to do it. Fil ... The king of scorpions ...

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and if you need to convert the usual 350 megabyte series, which bitrate is better to exhibit? 500 or less is possible?
coreplayer shows them of course, but about 90%. and wmp they refuse to open at all. avi format

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traum88 @ 7.1.2009, 18:09*
and if you need to convert the usual 350 megabyte series, which bitrate is better to exhibit? 500 or less is possible?

450
traum88 @ 7.1.2009, 18:09*
coreplayer shows them of course, but about 90%. and wmp they refuse to open at all. avi format

Why convert them then? 90% is acceptable

Kurakov @ 7.1.2009, 17:37*
3. ND in VMP - it looks just supper, the quality is excellent, the sound does not lag behind at all.
MIRACLES, and only.

No wonders, video accelerator supported

Kurakov @ 7.1.2009, 17:37*
True to convert under 4 hours is harsh, although we must try some movie in the resolution of ND to download and convert.

This is from 1080 4 hours, from an ordinary rip hour, from 720p hours 2.5


IMHO: naturally - converting on an ongoing basis, not a way out, I see this situation as a very good trend, which will soon overrun into full support by the CorePlayer of the HTC Touch HD video accelerator

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