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By the way, Pindos also seem to give installments of 0-0-12 in parallel, this is probably 3-4% discount. Generally pamper them. We would have one for 61k and no one would have questions, right? Although we ourselves are to blame, is that also true? We, as citizens, allowed thieves in the Kremlin to impose a VAT on us, which, incidentally, goes 100% to feeding the Kremlin, it does not remain in the regions, if anyone does not know.

Lo1122 @ 03.24.19, 10:17 PM*
The problem is that expensive Windows laptops out of the box with problems.

The worst thing is that the keyboard is tactilely the same as throughout the old series, no changes seem to be. Although what is there to blame if they sew this shit and began to install it in Alienware? What with cheap coolers and batteries is also not clear whether there was a restyling and a change of suppliers. If everything is the same, the chances of running around the services are very real and with new ...

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Vova-Vetkin @ 03.24.19, 10:03 PM*
- Screen quality comes first, I constantly watch videos, etc.

Y530 any modification with 144Hz IPS 1050ti / 1060 watch by psref code. Lenovo 720s-15IKB with i7 7700HQ. both in citylink. There are just discounts. The second of course is much slower, because the case is small and light, metallized. But the stylish and comfortable working full keyboard. The Y530 has a damaged add-on unit.

In 90k, the Y530 c 8750H + 1060 easily fits now. Full stuffing - games, video, 4k cinema with HDR on a TV / projector immediately on 2 video outputs. and 2 years warranty.



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Hahaha, Dell already realized that it was fucked up with prices and began to throw discounts in the USA at 5590 - SAVE17. -17%. In short, the same config is only minus 8GB, the die costs $ 954 in the USA and there is also a rebate, like there is a $ 50 bucks. In general, we consider without rebate, as with a die on 16 - 954 x 1.2 (VAT) - 75k. Plus 2400r for TB3.0, which doesn’t seem to be there, but they have RGB keyboard, it's + 2000r, total 75-76k - this is the true price of our config, taking into account the input VAT of 20%, everything else is arrogant Wishlist of local hucksters.



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Well, I haven’t said, "there is a lie, there is a blatant lie, but there are statistics." It depends on how you count. If a gamer is the one who goes to e-sports championships or streams to play games in some Twitch, a person for whom games are a way to earn money, then yes.

Gamblers generally consider sales everything that can be attributed to gaming laptops. This means a minimum of 1052 in the kit. Price from about 60k. And how they use laptop to hucksters is not the case. But the total sales of game models are ridiculous. But they are usually the most expensive.

but then for rare toddlers would have to take a separate PC, but why?
Well, then, that the system unit is noiseless at which at 100% load of all cores and at 42-50% acceleration. With one 140mm cooler and radiator, a little more than 0.5 kg weighs and consumes 120 watts. Try to crank the same number on a laptop even for 300k.

Look, the first G5 5590 has just arrived in the city, exactly the same as in the Moscow megabit garbage dump. Only 89k there, and here 97k for the shameful config 8750 + 1050Ti! And there is even a crappy IPS with 45% NTSC !!! Why does citylink want + 30k? To the same config G5 5587? For the new case + 128SSD and + 8GB of memory and that's all ?!
https: //www.citilink.r...ile/notebooks/1129499/

What do you think, how many pieces will they sell at such a wild price with the infamous IPS and the infamous 1050Ti?



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Serge3leo @ 03.24.19, 19:35*
, checked on a third USB-C monitor,

Models indicate. There are a couple of them in retail.



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Slava89RUS @ 03.24.19, 20:21*
And why do you need just such a laptop with a top-end processor and matrix, and a video card for delivery.
For work. As a cheap alternative to pompous workstations for 150k +. What am I essentially missing? IPS normal and claudia. SB suits me. silently it turned out in the end. Well, the battery without drops. Everything. A super reliable case is not needed, it is for the home. There is nothing to pay for in essence. Igrunov 5% among buying laptops according to statistics in the Russian Federation. They are a rare breed. And there’s nothing more to buy. Y530 with a curved clave is not tactile, but literally CO with howls under normal load, although it is more effective in games. Omen is good at clave, but IPS is the same threshing floor, well, and 1050 is absolutely obscene 2GB. Like it or not, we are scum marketers, for those who, for business, are forced to kick 100k + under the line, so that without a collective farm.

I always have a little proca. The cooler it is, the faster everything is loaded with the right software for me, the effect is literally linear. But to take in the load to 8750 also some 1050Ti (and even with a power supply curve with a lack of power) or why 1060?

Here Belarusians fellows, ordered the correct config from lenovo with Y530 - 8750 + 1054 + 60Hz BOE-N61. Everything is as it should. What prevents to order the same citylink with such an IPS G5 5587 through his dad - merlion? The desire of the wholesaler is the law for the manufacturer. They do not care what to do and supply. It’s our huckster who is to blame for everything in fact, not even the producers. From greed or brainlessness. The first is more likely to maximize the margin.

HP essentially came close to the ideal in terms of body and working keyboard. All she needs is to put IPS with 72% NTSC, white backlight and the youngest 1050 with 4GB + 8750H, instead of 2, and sell, sell, sell many times more than the game to the ordinary market. But then who will take the zBook for 200k? At Dell, if you do the same, no one will take Precision 3xxx, 5xxx, only those who need 30-bit video output from the nose from the nose. Lenov has the same thing, put the clave from E580 to Y530 and 72% NTSC to the younger ones - who the hell do you need pompous P / W series for? The difference is again in strength and 30 bit video output. More there is nothing to pay + 100k.



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When displaying pictures on 4K monitors on TB3.0 / DP especially, friezes will disappear.



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ZK1983 @ 03.24.19, 17:57*
Although the contrast ratio of 600: 1 is somewhat small
This is a guaranteed minimum. And you should not believe NB measurements. These balls on the same BOE-N48 matrix intended 1500: 1 and 900: 1 with a typical datasheet of 800: 1. Everything must be checked with the eyes, the spread in the specimens is also wild.

Considering buying a Dell g7 7790.

The bonus of the new 7790 is that in the future it puts a 120/144 / 4k matrix cheaply relative to its price (+ 6-15k), the only question is where to get the branded cable in the news, because 3779 4k variants did not have a 40-pin cable for they do not seem to exist in nature, new ones will have to wait until the Chinese make them. And about SB xs, because It is thinner and smaller body. While nothing is known, buy, tell us what it is in reality, whether it is possible to provide 100% silence, as on the old and 3779 G5-G7.

It is unfortunate that our hucksters are so greedy and, for their own benefit, ordered the very bottom-up configs of 7790, as well as 5590. It was they who were to blame, not Dell. Neither are you normal 144Hz at 15.6, nor 144 at 17.3, nor 4k IPS. Even the presence of TB3.0 with 1050Ti in 5590 does not console, for such a price it is simply ridiculous if it were not there. We have a price 30k higher than in the USA in the cheapest garbage dump in Moscow, completely inadequate ...

We would have 5590 8750 + 1054 with 60Hz 300 nits and 90+ sRGB as in other countries. Eh .. then it would make sense to change the old G5 to a new one.



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and hdd such still needs to be searched

Hitach HTS..630 at 1TB / 7200 is perfect. Parkings are driven as you like through FTool 2.17b from a bootable flash drive. HTE ... 630 is no different than parking. The last of the Mohicans with PMR heads without brakes like the freaks with SMR and 128MB (all such). The closest analogue of HTS / HTE is WD Black with a 5-year RMA warranty and a collection point in Moscow. Hitachi has a 3-year warranty from the seller only. In fact, HGST = WD, but HGST is an OEM WD without its warranties, so it costs less. In general, now I would not put any HDD in a thin laptop, there are even more risks. Better than 1TB SSD, the more they are already at 9000-10000r, even with us they are sold with a 5 year warranty. From HDD only unnecessary noise and brakes. The only plus is that he usually dies in a way that is understandable, the data can be pulled out of the plates, and the SSD hasn’t turned on again and goodbye to all the data if it isn’t backed up permanently, because there is NAND crypto protection and as soon as the controller dies, the data without a key it’s stupidly impossible to pull out the wired ones - in NAND chips there is senseless binary garbage. HDDs are not encrypted by default; they can be pulled out with a donor.



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Serge3leo @ 03.24.19, 17:11*
All monitors on my way with USB-C
The problem is that such a minority, and most do not have it, are especially cheap. Lenovo did not cost anything to add an angular power plug in the very upper corner on the left, but marketers decided to arrange the whole owner flush. It was for this reason that they hid the 4k @ 60Hz output in psref, and in E590, such funny ones suddenly added, because they realized that it was a competitive advantage, only the crookedness of its implementation against the background of the G6 450 and Dell 5591 was obvious. These are all his classmates in essence.

ACHXXV @ 03.24.19, 17:03*
. I can’t understand how the E590 weighs 1.9 kg without a video card and with a 45W mini battery.
These are even small things, you can be even more upset if you look at the performance of the i7 8565U in the E590 (like the i5 8265U) and compare it with the i5 8250U in the T480s on the Notebookcheck, that's where the failure is shameful, so the failure.

ACHXXV @ 03.24.19, 17:03*
It is also easy to put a normal battery in the E590. But then the meaning in the T series will be less.
Well, the meaning, of course, will be in the form of much more strength, although people scold the cases of modern T-shek type crack. The hinges there are much stronger and more reliable internal fastening.

ACHXXV @ 03.24.19, 17:03*
Finding a 15.6 laptop with a normal screen is difficult, and if it’s also light, then even more so.
So lenovo 720s-15IKB only but it is sharply more expensive and the CO there also nikakuschee i7 7700HQ turned into a pumpkin. So it comes out almost like the i5 8250U in real performance, it's just a bit more powerful, and it consumes much more ...

G6 450 again put what garbage, 67% sRGB stated, I don’t even understand where they got such strange matrices, nobody does. They probably lie, the usual cheap 47% NTSC gave out for 67% sRGB ...



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* disa2908
Throw a reference to the patch. I’ll add to my collection in 10-ku.



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* IvaMary,
And in fact, you have no choice - up to 60k only this one, to clearly keep within:
https: //www.citilink.r...ile/notebooks/1067886/
or more advanced 100% quiet in surfing and office (I guarantee as an owner):
https: //www.citilink.r...ile/notebooks/1065393/
Here on the SSD for 250 there will be enough bonus and money up to 60k, but there is already no more for the second die + 8GB. Although you can play with one. But he has TB3.0, a more advanced CO, the body 1 bolt opens behind.

If you need normal color rendering, then this one:
https: //www.citilink.r...ile/notebooks/1065413/
but the picture in the text will be more cloudy and grainy, because ppi below.

Bonus G5 - 120/144 / 4k matrices are easily placed by replacing the loop. In 3779, they didn’t seem to deliver such ones, although no one checked 100% with a G5 cable.

In 3579 and 3779 for this money there will be no TB3.0, i.e. output to external eGPU and output to 2x4k @ 60Hz or one 5k monitor. But these are trifles. By itself, 4k @ 60Hz with HDR output is available in all three models via HDMI 2.0b, the closest competitor with the same twists is Lenovo Y530, it is sharply more expensive, because it is of better quality, but it has a problem with howls of coolers in normal surfing, a problem so far decided only partially. G5 and G3 3779 are 100% silent after tuning, like a tablet.



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* Dailll
https: //www.citilink.r...ile/notebooks/1064118/
This look as an option or this
https: //www.citilink.r...ile/notebooks/1086083/
Just with the second bracket 8GB cheaper than 90k comes out at the current discount.

MacOS can be delivered there if you want to.

+1 year warranty does not hurt. If you want to play sometimes in comfort and in such a way that at least another 1-1.5 years draws in fhd - the second option is that it does not have an ambush with a power supply and a lack of power for 1050Ti like the first with 135W, a power supply of 180W.

There is support for G-Sync on external monitors on miniDP 1.4. TB3.0 for any docking station with optical outputs and galvanic isolation is also available on external audio equipment with the option with 1060.

For sound in general, it is necessary to measure the minimum latency of the system, and under 10, everything is bad with this case ...



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-Kaizer- @ 03/23/19, 20:48*
And if 8 inches is normal, is it normal that the IPS matrix and the resolution are 1280x800 so as not to strain your eyes too much?
The higher the ppi of the matrix, the easier it is for the eyes. 4: 3 is important for everything that was done under A4. And this is definitely NOT an AMOLED screen, with nightmare flickering due to PWM at 200Hz. Eyes will flow out during long reading, especially after e-ink. Only IPS, while Samsung has not had such for a long time. Therefore, either the iPad is old or someone else.



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In fact, a more complete version after a registry patch looks like this:
Dell G5 / G7 15 - Discussion (Post by Sw-777 # 79590118)



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Rammsteiner @ 03.24.19, 14:13*
Unfortunately, i5 and i3 are different, especially if you look at different generations.

Now only the 8th generation is relevant, about 7 you can not remember. The difference between i3 8130 and i5 8250 is about 1.5 times. There is no difference between the i5 8250 and i7 8650U in practice. If there is little money, then 330s only remains with a normal keyboard and i5, there is nothing more on the market, with a relatively low weight.

He has 8GB, yes, but this is his maximum in terms of normal upgrade, then he will have to pull out 4GB and change it to 8-16. Having received as a result of the curve the config with constant drawdowns psp in 2 times in random order, then a two-channel bank, then a single-channel. I have seen this more than once in practice. And so, decide for yourself what is more important for you - the prospect of an upgrade, the presence of a 4k @ 60Hz output, overall reliability or money limit.



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There is no information on the manufacturer’s website.

Lenov has everything complicated. Infa is, but it is twofold. When driving a serial, it usually gives out 2 matrices and you’ll guess what the hell without opening the box. The same thing on the phone, to say the serial. They don’t have the exact info, like others. Dell has a service-tag. And Dell always comes with OS or ubuntu v16 or 10. Checking the matrix is ​​easy both there and there for the pencil test and VCOM tests. Checking lenovas without OS is much more difficult if the brightness is not controlled in the BIOS. And you can forget about full-fledged tests without 10s or live-PE flash drives. There is only to check by opening the box, otherwise nothing.



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ACHXXV @ 03.24.19, 13:20*
since there are a lot of USB-C charges and you don’t need to use proprietary.
So you need a powerful one on 50-65W, and most, if you mean smartphones, simply can not pull it at the desired charging speed, there’s nothing to say about working from such ones. Unless like a temporary crutch, when there is no choice at all. Same thing with usb-c power banks. In general, no one bothering to make a separate power supply with a regular connector, it would cost an extra $ 5 in the price of a laptop, pure marketing and plus a second power input via usb-c, who needs it. And because of this artificial technical miscalculation, for the sake of separating the E line from L / T for the worse, in order to cut modern monitors 4k or 4k TV at 60Hz, you will have to buy an expensive mini-dock, and even a third-party one, there is no brand name. This still increases the price by 3500-5000r, no less.

Maybe I'm changing in vain.
If you do not care about the guarantee (more precisely, hemorrhoids in the future) in 1 year and there is money, everything is correct, it seems that according to -N61 there were no negative reviews in terms of flickering on the forums. Otherwise, how lucky with the lights, it, unlike the flickering -N43, is not with multi-row illumination, alas.

I believe that in a computer for $ 1000 the screen should be “juicier". It would be better if it was glossy and glare than so matte.
As for the glossy, definitely not, just put them next to it, otherwise I also think so, especially the difference in the price of a penny. This is a 100% conspiracy in the 15.6 segment (it is the most popular on the planet, that's the point). At 17.3, all IPSs are normal. This is flush. In 14 "there is also no problem, the same Dell 7490 for 69k, there are some advantages ... By the way, Lenovo was the first to change the situation at 15.6, selling the Y530 gaming series with 144Hz normal color rendering IPS is cheaper than $ 1000. For others, everything is dull . And the prices jumped to new series from scratch. Unfortunately, even the T series has the same mediocre IPS, only the contrast is promised with +100: 1 and that’s all. Therefore, the only option to get normal color rendering and brightness is to change the matrix. Do not overpay for the sake of her 2 price E590 ...



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Rammsteiner @ 03.24.19, 13:40*
I would like to be thinner, easier so that it works for a long time without an outlet. It is clear that metal is a different price class. Any of Linux plans to put.
Well, take the Dell 7490, ubunta out of the box, everything is fine, 3 years of business warranty, good IPS, 256SSD. But 1000 $ +, which will pay off in 3-5 years of reliability, especially if you drag a lot on the street and not very carefully handle the lid and the rest. It is enough to finish the die on 8GB and the topic is closed. $ 750 for i3 is overkill. This is a confident i5 + class. From the outlet for a long time nothing will work in this price class. The batteries are too weak. IPS will also be lousy with poor color rendering. Instead of red carrot, instead of green light green. The closest one to the normal MSI PS42, but it also comes closer to $ 1000, there is still a question for the screen in terms of flickering IPS. It is the lightest in the class for this price level, but there are many shortcomings for the future. Metal is not a panacea. Lumin in itself was still junk. Especially if it is decorative. What matters is not the material but its real strength. Here 7490 steers with a magnesium alloy chassis and carbon fiber in the lid. He has the maximum autonomy, confident 7+ hours.

While writing, you have already changed the requirements, who does this? Already 15.6 appeared. At 750, it is better to add and take the E580 / 590 or HP G5. This is a different level in terms of upgrade and chips.

330s is generally unpromising, there is no 4k output, one memory slot is soldered and there are miserable 4GB, at least 8 are soldered. Normal 8 + 8 or 16 + 16 in the future does not deliver. Well, in terms of strength, he loses to them. This is not an entry-level business class. The 7490 is already a high level in the business segment, above Lenovo's T-shirts s sub-series.



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Hedgehog it’s clear that if you have money, it’s better to take 8750. It will be at least 40% faster and will save this supply in 2 years, when the current 4 nuclear cores will finally turn into a pumpkin. Remember - at the beginning of 2020, Intel will enter the 10nm series, and by the fall of 2020 there will be 10nm + restyling, i.e. cleaned and optimized chips. At this moment, 6-8 cores will become the norm in the i3 and i5 segments, respectively, and i7 will become 12 nuclear, i9 16 nuclear and old 14nm +++ 6 nuclear, at least somehow it will stay at today's i3, i.e. surfing will be enough, but without any margin. It seems monstrous right now, but remember it before. Once browsers flew on 2 c2d cores, but now they are disabled ...
And in general, the Y530 is much more advanced. The only serious minus for everyone today for this series is noisy SO in normal business, constant coolers howling from scratch, Lenovo greatly underestimated the threshold for activating coolers to 55C. The people are now trying to solve the problem, but not yet to the end. At Dell it is 15-20C higher. G5 is generally 100% silent in surfing and office, coolers do not work 99% of the time. Read the 530 thread and you’ll understand. Well, his keyboard, alas, is a curve (the additional block is disfigured, why many exclude it from options like me), although it is tactilely good, it is tactile in comparison with the wretched in the G series. In general, each series has its own jambs.

Also remember that the battery in the G series fails 2 times and this cannot be fixed, the batteries are cheap, there are a lot of defects, the coolers are the same. Plus no tech support. And only 1 year warranty. The Y530 has full battery power, normal technical support and a + 1 year warranty. So in general, he is worth his money. It’s only a shame that just a month ago, on the stock in the same city for 63k, they sold it with 8300 + 1050Ti + 144Hz IPS with good color rendering, and here it will be the same cheap as in Dell G, only the brightness is 30 nits higher, here and all the difference. Now, prices for 144Hz options are sharply higher, for 70k mostly.

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