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Owners of the 1st version of Surface Book with Performance Base, if someone doesn’t need a keyboard (for example, the tablet itself broke, the keyboard is idle) - ready to buy a performance base for a good price, or exchange it with my standard GeForce 940 version substantial surcharge.


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Acer Iconia Tab W700 - Discussion
Description ( i3 | i5 ) | Windows ( 8 � | 8.1 � ) | Ubuntu linux � | Change the operating system � | Search programs � | Antivirus � | Ambulance laptop owners �
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The Acer Iconia Tab W700 is one of the first tablet PCs running windows 8. It has a high-performance device (in this respect, it is not inferior to modern non-gaming laptops), functionality and a large screen diagonal - 11.6 inches. Of the obvious drawbacks of the device can be noted its weight - 950 grams.
Reviews
Drivers and Utilities
FAQ
1. In: In what modifications and configurations of the tablet is a case supplied and a microHDMI - VGA?
ABOUT: In all
2. In: Are modifications with core i3 3rd (ivy bridge) delivered to Russia?
ABOUT: Not
3. In: Where can I see tablet games on Intel Core i3 / i5?
ABOUT: Here.
4. In: Are there versions with 3G, GPS or a memory card slot?
ABOUT: Not
5. In: How to activate AcerRing?
ABOUT: At the same time, touch the screen with 5 fingers.
6. In: Help me choose a version with i3 or a version with i5?
ABOUT: Everyone chooses their goals and objectives. Subjectively, the i3 version for surfing the Internet, and launching metro-applications, while on i5 there is an opportunity not only to work in such programs as Adobe Photoshop, Mathcad, Compass-3D, but also to play Dead Space 2.3 or NFS Most Wanted 2012
7. In: Have you tested this device?
ABOUT: Yes.Production test using the Linx (i5) program, stress test aida (i5), test battery life tablet.
8. In: If I buy a tablet abroad, will I have a guarantee? If so, how is it calculated?
ABOUT: There is a guarantee in any case! With the warranty case, in the best case, have on handpassport, checkandFully filled warranty shop stamped. If there is no warranty card, then judging by the information on the acer website - they have an international guarantee, and the presence of a warranty card on it is not necessary. However, if you don’t have a check, then according to the information on the acer website - the guarantee will follow the serial number. But in this case, some warranty period is lost, because its beginning is the date of production and not the purchase. Arriving at an authorized center rss.ru, you will need to write a statement about the "loss" of the guarantee. It is advisable to donate with the power supply, no matter what is said from the center, and so that it does not have to be transported later.
9. In: What problems are currently known? And how serious are they?
ABOUT: The throttling problem ([Limiting the processor clock frequency to 800 MHz when the temperature reaches 75 degrees] takes place on models with a core i5 with a heavy load on both the processor and the video card at the same time, so it’s impossible to use the full potential of the processor and video cards in gamestemporary solution), bluetooth and wifi drivers (need to be reinstalled after purchase), screen backlights (you can check against a black background), speakers (you can check by turning on the demo in Dolby Home Theater), which is considered a drawback to the noise of the cooler.
10. In: Will Acer fix the throttling problem?
ABOUT: Not. They officially announced this.here.
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I want to summarize the discussion of the issue, and although I understand that not everyone will like it and will not entirely agree with our decision, we want to bring it to all. Referring to the Acer-Travis post, I can once again confirm that the i5 processor in the W700 is working as intended and within the Intel specifications. With this in mind, Acer will not provide software that allows you to change the functionality of the i5 processor in the W700. The W700 is tuned to achieve optimal performance based on its smooth configuration and design, and the expansion of processor performance is not possible without the risk of overheating, because overheating is unacceptable. We appreciate all the comments on this issue and will use all the feedback we have gathered here to help our future products.
Opinion about the throttling of the user M.E.S.
Let me explain once again about throttling - it is NOT tied to temperature, it can start at 60 and at 90 degrees. It is tied to TDP, and when it becomes more than 17 (figure for acer) watts, throttling begins. Considering the fact that Vidyukha at max frequency requires about 10 watts, and the processor 10-15 watts, and the priority is on the processor, it turns out that vidyuhi gets only 5 watts, and this limits its frequency to 600-700 MHz. Many manufacturers have solved this problem by simply increasing the TDP to 25-30 watts, thereby giving it the vidyuhi it needs 10 watts. Acer refused to solve the problem.
11. In : Where can I see a list of games that go on the tablet?
ABOUT: Here
12. In: Why on the website www.computeruniverse.ru the prices are lower than those for which the tablet sells a tablet in Russia? Is this some kind of unofficial package?
ABOUT: The site sells official devices, the package is also official, depending on the version. The reason for low prices may be the fact that the device does not lie on the shelves in stores, and its sale does not spend money going into the salaries of employees of various stores.
13. In: My tablet is frozen, does not respond, what should I do?
ABOUT: Hold the power button on the device for a long time. If it does not help, then on the bottom edge of the device, in the area of ​​the Win button there is a hole for resetting the device.
14. InA: I would like to see the delivery of those who have already bought a tablet. Where can I do this?
ABOUT: Mortare User Package, CTACAH user kit, case, docking station and keyboard.
15. In: I'm wondering what is inside the tablet, how are the elements on the motherboard, or I want to change the ssd. Where to read, see instructions and photos?
ABOUT: Detailed analysis of the tablet, up to the motherboard, one of the detailed photo reports,modernization of the complete cover, SSD replacement (video)andtext versionssd information.
16. In: If I buy a bluetooth mouse, will it work with a bluetooth keyboard?
ABOUT: Yes.
17. In: For some reason, the air blowing out of the right ventilation grate is much stronger than the left one. Is this normal and does anyone have the same behavior ??
ABOUT: There is no cooler in the left grille, from there the tablet "takes" air, and from the right grill, the air that has passed through the left grille passes through the radiator and is blown out by the cooler.
18. In: My tablet does not charge up to 100%, how to solve the problem?
ABOUT: Decision.
19. In: There is no GPS in our tablet, but I would like to use maps and GPS, how can I achieve this?
ABOUT: The topic is quite popular, so far you can try what is describedhere.
20. In: I'm afraid to scratch the screen, is there a film for our device?
ABOUT: Yes, Vikuiti DQC160 for Acer Iconia Tab W700. Of the benefits: matte, the sensitivity is almost not reduced. Of the minuses: dear.
21. In: My flash-applications do not work in the metro-interface, what should I do?
ABOUT: Instruction.
22. In: How to make Windows 8 boot in a special mode via the command line? How to create a shortcut to shutdown or reboot the computer in special boot options?
ABOUT: Instruction.
23. In: I don’t have "miracle buttons" (right panel) on the right, what should I do?
ABOUT: You need to reset the calibration.
24. In: My keyboard does not work when I select windows boot mode, what should I do?
ABOUT: You need to log into bios, set a password for logging into bios and disable the secure boot parameter.
25. In: I want to view applications in the Windows Store, without going to the Store metro-app, how can I do this?
ABOUT: Windows store.
26. In: I installed the tablet in the docking station, and the usb does not work, what's the problem?
ABOUT: The docking station must be connected to the 220W network, since is an active hub.
27. In: Most windows8 metro-interface tiles stopped working, why did this happen and what should I do?
ABOUT: The situation is describedhere.
28. In: I have Internet Explorer from metro applications opened on my desktop, how to enable Internet Explorer in metro?
ABOUT: You need to make it the default in the settings. Internet Explorer then select the properties of the brezer and go to the program tab.
29. In: A standard touch keyboard appears for typing only in metro applications. How can I make it appear in desktop mode?
ABOUT: Instruction.
30. In: I want to reinstall windows, what do I need to know and what should I stock up on?
ABOUT: Attention! Reinstalling the OS, do not forget to pre-make an image of the system on an external drive! In addition, when reinstalling the OS, a split screen may occur, due to the disabling of uefi during the Windows installation, i.e. you must reinstall Windows using uefi. During the reinstallation, you will have to delete and re-create all partitions, since uefi uses a different disk layout system from mbr.First you need to format the flash-drive in FAT32, if you are going to install via UEFI, because NTFS UEFI does not perceive. You can use to create bootable drives.WinsetupfromUSB 1.0 beta 8. It is worth noting that the recovery from the system with boxed discs works in UEFI mode. Before this, it is necessary to delete all partitions on the hard disk. You can simply leave the unpartitioned area. If we are talking about a clean system from an image, thenhereinstruction.Windows7 in UEFI mode is temporarily not possible
31. In: After reinstalling windows, I split the screen, and why should I do that?
ABOUTA: Most likely you installed the system in legacy bios, and it is better to reinstall it in UEFI. If there is no possibility to reinstall the system, you can trytemporary solution(Not everyone works, try on your device).
32. In: My drivers don't want to get up on top of the factory ones, what should I do?
ABOUT: Followinstructions.
33. In: I reinstalled the system, but the screen "falls asleep" after 5 seconds of not using, how to solve this problem?
ABOUT: There are 2 options, it is desirable to usethe first, secondas an alternative.
34. In: On my desktop, everything is very small, how to scale the text and elements of the desktop?
ABOUT: Followinstructions.
35. In: I have a strange search for applications in the Windows Store, few applications are displayed, how to solve the problem?
ABOUT: Decision.
36. In: I want to put ubuntu on this device, how can I do this?
ABOUT: Instruction. Another instruction.
37. In: I want to install MacOS Mountain lLion, how can I do this?
ABOUT: Instruction.
38. In: I want to install Android, how can I do this?
ABOUT: Instruction. Something else. There is an emulator installation optionWindowsAndroid.
39. In: I would like to set the owner's rights to the folder from the context menu, how can I do this?
ABOUT: Instruction.
40. In: I do not trust third-party sites with drivers, please tell me the official site.
ABOUT: You are welcome. Due to low bandwidth, all drivers from that site are hosted.here.
41. In: How much does the case weigh without a built-in keyboard (with a built-in keyboard)? how much does the tablet weigh?
ABOUT: 400g (600g), 900g
42. In: How to turn off the sound of the keys in the virtual keyboard?
ABOUT: Wonder buttons =>parameters =>change computer settings =>general =>play key sounds as you type
43. In: Not always at hand is a power outlet, how to charge the tablet in the absence of a power outlet?
ABOUT: As an option, you can use the AcmePower AP UC-4 50Wh charger. User upse: "I personally charged the W700 with the power off from 7% to 95% of the time it took to charge for 55 minutes and another 3-5% of the charge remained in the AcmePower AP UC-4 50Wh."
44. In: When USB HDD 3.0 is connected, it buzzes but does not detect it, and USB2.0 HDD finds problems, what's the problem?
ABOUT: Not enough power. Try to connect with the power connected to the tablet.
45. In: Where can I see a list of basic touch commands or gestures?
ABOUT: Here is.
46. ​​In: How to set yourself as the owner of the folder?
ABOUT: C usingthisapplets.
47. In: Is it possible to replace the RAM?
ABOUT: Not. She's unsoldered.
48. In: How to disable driver signature verification?
ABOUT: Change Parameters =>general =>special download options =>reload =>diagnostics =>additional parameters =>boot options =>reload =>F7
49. In: Why does my keyboard not respond to clicks in uefi and bootmenu, but it works in windows?
ABOUT: Most likely you have a bluetooth keyboard, change to wired. If it does not help, then you need to go into the BIOS, set a password to log into it, disable the secure boot parameter.
50. In: I do not want to set all the numerous parameters of power consumption manually, can I do it more automatically?
ABOUT: Control Panel =>Find and fix problems =>Energy Optimization.
51. In: This application requires permission (for example, to use the camera). It can be assigned in the application settings. And where to find the parameters of the application?
ABOUT: Open the miracle of the button when the application is running and click the gear with the words "parameters" under it. At the top of the menu will be the settings options.
52. In: The left speaker began to hiss and rattle, can I return it to the store or what can I do with the speaker other than replacing it?
ABOUT: On the acer hot line, they said it was a defect, bring it to the store for quality control. (User vlatoput: "I handed over my tablet for repair a month ago, while it was still, they were told the speakers were ordered. During repair, the store gave a tablet on the android bought in Eldorado i3 ")
53. In: Is it possible to install AutoCAD and is it comfortable to work? On which i3 / i5 processor is it better to take a tablet model for CAD programs? Is 3D HD3000 or HD4000 better?
ABOUT: Everything is spinning smartly and without brakes. If it doesn’t work, it means that either the AutoCAD version is incompatible with the night, or something has been picked up in the device. i5 is objectively better, but to each his own. HD4000
54. In: Can the tablet be used as a second display?
ABOUT: Not
55. In: Can not read Recovery DVD Disc with the language support package for the Russian language. Where to get the image?
ABOUT: If it is not readable through the fault of the drive, then go to the store for a new one, if it’s the fault that the discs are defective, then to the store.
56. In: How much I do not charge the battery, and more than 93 percent is not charging, what should I do?
ABOUT: Followinstructions
57. In: Are there corners of light?
ABOUT: Yes.
58. In: My system does not see all the RAM, is it fixed in the BIOS?
ABOUT: No, as an option, the integrated video can take part of the RAM.
59. In: Bluetooth does not work, what to do?
ABOUT: Trythisandthis
60. In: I would like to order on computeruniverse.ru, how can you characterize the site? Are there warehouses in Russia
ABOUT: Reviewed forumchanin an82Warehouses in Russia NO. Sent really from Germany. As for the theft, they insure all purchases and either return you money back to the card in the near future, or send the goods again. Without any problems. More details are described in the group.<a href = "http: // not validlink "target =" _ blank ">in contact with</ a>.
61. In: What can I do to increase the speed and quality of WiFi reception?
ABOUT: Device Manager =>PCM on wifi adapter =>Own property =>in the drivers tab in addition, enable the "Dynamic MIMO Power Save" parameter. But the technology is designed to increase the speed inside the network. Applicable not for the Internet, but between devices on the same network. For example, the transfer of video through the media server from the tablet to the TV.
62. In: The narrator annoys me, how can I solve this problem?
ABOUT: Instruction
63. In: Can I connect the most common joystick to it?
ABOUT: If dzhostik USB is possible.
64. In: How realistic is it to use the system outside the Metro shell without a stylus at this display resolution?
ABOUT: Reducing the resolution to 1600 without a pen is not very convenient, but you can live.
65. In: How global are the problems with Wi-Fi? Is the problem completely solved by updating the drivers?
ABOUT: Everything is solved and updated, problems with Wi-Fi only with energy-saving settings.
66. In: Are there any quality problems with the display (broken pixels)?
ABOUT: User an82: dismissed 2 tablets in a store with broken pixels.
67. In: How stable and without a problem is the BT keyboard and is there any problem removing it from the tablet within the room (5-6 meters)? How many devices does BT support at the same time?
ABOUT: Vilk user: I have a version with i3 without a keyboard, but I connected a phone via bluetooth and played music from a tablet from the next room from it, also called from a tablet using standard Windows 8 tools, using a bluetooth phone lying a few meters behind the wall , fine. According to the bluetooth specification, you can connect many devices at the same time, in general, it should be enough for everything.
68. In: The tablet has a small connector, none of those that I have come up with, how to be?
ABOUT: One of the options
69. In: I want to return to the factory settings, do I need a disk that comes with the kit?
ABOUT: Yes
70. In: Who is the tablet maker?
ABOUT: China (PRC)
71. In: Does reinstalling windows fail your warranty?
ABOUT: Installing a new system will not be legal, system recovery from disks is legal regardless of the number of times.
72. In: If you use the program ThrottleStop, that is, disable throttling, is it possible to overheat the processor and its breakdown?
ABOUT: This program removes throttling, not crashing at 100 degrees
73. In: Where can I buy, except for ebay.com, a case with a stitched keyboard?
ABOUT: According to 04/20/13 onlyhereandhere.
74. In: In tablet 1, USB-connector, can I insert into it a usb-splitter, which in turn can plug in a usb-modem, portable hard drive and mouse? Will he pull it all offline? Well, or at least only a portable hard drive without add. food?
ABOUT: 500 GB drives are likely to pull, but portable drives are different, not everyone works without external power. At the expense of the usb-modem and the mouse - everything will pull.
75. In: If the tablet is connected to a stationary computer via usb, is it defined as a removable disk?
ABOUT: There will be no meaning because firstly you need a PC Link USB cable, secondly a special software. And the speed will be extremely small. So it's easier to make a local network and connect a computer and a tablet to it. You can also readhere.
76. In: If you buy through ebay or through amazon, will the keyboard be only in english?
ABOUT: Depending on the location of the seller, which will be ordered, but most likely there will be only 1 language. And from Japan and with hieroglyphs can send.
77. In: How to rename a profile name?
ABOUT: Instruction
78. In: I have a problem with bluetooth after reinstalling windows, what can I try to do?
ABOUT: Try the describedhereways
79. In: How can I see the BIOS version from under windows?
ABOUT: Wonder buttons (sidebar) =>search =>msinfo32 =>we start.
8. In: Where can I see average fps in games and / or check if I have throttling based on fps?
ABOUT: Here.
81. In: In tablet 1, USB-connector, can I insert into it a usb-splitter (not a docking station), which in turn can insert a ucb-modem, a portable hard drive and a mouse? Will he pull it all offline? Well, or at least only a portable hard drive without add. food?
ABOUT: WD 500GB pulls, but portable disks are different, not everyone works without external power. Also, according to the description of the members of the forum, it was possible to simultaneously cling to the clave, the mouse and the flash drive to 32 gigabytes and all through a passive hub without a dock.
82. In: How much time does he have in real time in the "read, watch sites" and "watch movies" mode?
ABOUT: In the most voracious mode, he lives autonomously for about 6 hours. This is when bluetooth is on, wifi.
82. In: If you constantly work on a tablet connected to the mains or remove it and put it back on your home stand a hundred times a day, how will all this affect the battery?
ABOUT: None.
83. In: How are applications installed on it? For example, I have an installation file (exe) on my computer, can I drop it on a USB flash drive and insert it into a tablet. Just as interesting as his situation with the old games (2006-2008 year of release) and with modern arcades.
ABOUT: Normal applications are installed the same way as on any computer under Windows, there are no features. From a flash drive or whatever you like - to your taste. But Metro - only from Market.
84. InA: Recently, I began to notice that artifacts appear in the form of a past image. It seems to my eyes that the old image can be seen somewhere at 25-30%, i.e. Significantly. What to do?
ABOUT: Donate under warranty.
85. In: Is the performance difference between w700 i3 (1.4) HD3000 and i3 (1.8) HD4000 large?
ABOUT: According to tests, the video card is better by 50%, the processor is 25-30%.
86. In: How to remove metro applications, they are not in the program uninstall list.
ABOUT: Hold the desired application in the subway and slightly move it down, a panel will appear, there you can delete the button.
86. In: Who bought through Ebay, computeruniverse.net or through Amazon, is the keyboard purely in English? Or is there Russian also ???
ABOUTA: Depending on the country of the seller, if from China, they can also send it with hieroglyphs. But in the case of computeruniverse.net on the layout, the letters Z and Y are interchanged. Engraving Russian letters will have to do. You can also use stickers.
87. In: how to charge the tablet so that the battery works normally? fully discharge - fully charged and so 3 times?
ABOUT: This will help get rid of 99% of the charge instead of 100, but in general, modern batteries do not need to be shaken.
88. In: And how to rename the profile name to Latin?
ABOUT: The process is describedhere
89. In: My Wi-Fi is constantly torn! The latest drivers are. What can be done?
ABOUT: Try removing the “unplug to save battery†checkbox in the device manager
90.:Utility to turn off the screen


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I post the links to the firmware and to the files for the root in a separate post (so that later this post can be transferred to the theme of the firmware when it is created).

Firmware and root on the Yandex disk

firmware manual
There are two archives with firmware in the folder:
"Hong Kong QA2" - the latest available Hong Kong firmware, is very close to the international one, there are google services.

"Chinese PL5" - the old Chinese, has not yet found a more recent one on the network. From it through the air, you can upgrade to the latest Chinese QA6. There are no Google services, the firmware has its own specificity, which I wrote about inthis post.

Personally, I advise you to go to Hong Kong, but everyone decides for himself.

Four-file firmware, archive unpack and sew through one (one itself is in the folder by reference).


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Based on the instructionfrom here, but with certain adjustments. Everything you need to root is in a folder on the disk.

0. We think about the choice of firmware, if necessary, we sew either on Hong Kong QA2, or on Chinese PL5. TWRP from the link on the disk is applicable to these versions of the firmware, I can not vouch for the other versions.

1. Cooking device. We charge for 100%. We install drivers, if not already installed (Windows usually pulls them up itself, but if not, you can install them via Kies). We save on the SD card or PC all the information that we do not want to lose when reset. Copy to the SD-card SR4-SuperSU-v2.78-SR4-20161115-automode-by-kane from the folder on the disk, also copy open_gapps-arm64-6.0-nano-20170203, if you have Chinese firmware.
2. Go to the Samsung Galaxy Apps, look for Crom Services, download and use. Bootloader unlocked.
3. To avoid FRP Lock (Factory Reset Lock), go to the settings, activate the settings for developers (to activate them, tap 5 times on the assembly number in the software details).
In the settings for developers, we enable "unlocking, provided by OEM." And USB debugging. Also turn off remote admin android in the security menu. Disable "find my phone" and protect Samsung from flashing, if enabled.
4. Before the root, we make a hard reset with the removal of all these accounts, after the reset we are not authorized anywhere. Otherwise, one may not give the necessary files to flash.
5. Open the Chinese one, which is also in the folder on the disk (probably, it can be sewn with the usual one, but the instruction taken as a basis recommends the Chinese, I also used it).
6. Here are the ticks in accordance with the screen:
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In the second line we slip the appropriate recovery:

For the Hong Kong firmware, we take C9000-PK2-twrp-3.0.2, for the Chinese, C9000-PL5-twrp-3.0.2. .
Note: Yes, PK2 and QA2 are formally different firmware versions, but PK2 recovery is suitable for QA2, no problems arise.
7. Turn off the smartphone, transfer to download mode (by pressing the on button, home and volume down). We connect to the PC, waiting for one to identify the device as Com. If it does not determine, then the firewood is crooked, you need to reinstall.
8. Press the leftmost button below to start the firmware.
9. If you tick the boxes correctly, the device will not reboot after the firmware. We press the buttons on, home and both volume keys, as soon as the screen turns black - release the volume down, leaving 3 remaining buttons pressed.
10. If everything is done correctly, we find ourselves in custom recovery. It is still in Chinese, do not be alarmed. We do not press anything and do not put checkmarks, just swipe the slider.
11. Attached Image
Push this button.
12. Attached Image
Then this one.
13. Scroll down the list, select the Russian language, click the button below to apply.
14. Go back to the main menu, go to the "clear" section.
15. Select "clear data", enter yes, after cleaning go back and once again do the wipe data. We return to the main recovery menu.
16. Go to the "install" section, select the sd card as the source, find the archive with SU on the card and install it without setting any check marks.
17. Reboot into the OS, not putting any daws when rebooting. The device will reboot 2 times and will hang for a long time on the Samsung logo. Do not panic, this is normal.

For the Hong Kong firmware process is completed - we have a root and custom recovery, you can safely configure the OS for yourself.

For Chinese:
18. After loading the OS, we turn off the device again, boot up by pressing the keys on, home and volume up.
19. Turn on the Russian language in the same way as before.
20. We put Google-services in the same way as we put the root before.
21. Reboot to the OS.
22. If, after a reboot, it starts cycling out an error in the spirit of “Google Apps Services / Settings Wizard Stopped†and does not start up on the desktop, do the following: open the curtain, click on the settings icon, go to the application section, turn on the system applications for now, search for Google Play Services and Settings Wizard, set all permissions. After that, in the same way, we set all permissions for all other Google services (by default, there are no permissions, and these applications crash with an error.

Everything is ready, we use the device.

how to make games go in FullHD resolution
One of the possible ways is via root-explorer or another file manager to go to /data/data/com.the name of the publisher of the game / shared_prefs / edit the file with the settings, putting down the desired values. But some games (for example, the latest version of hearthstone) ignore this file after a reboot.

Another way: manually edit the build.prop (or download the BuildProp editor application from the market), change the parameters of the ro.product.device and ro.product.model in both cases to the SM-G930V, disguising the device under the Galaxy S7 on the snap-820, after Why reboot. It will not lead to negative consequences, but most games will be launched in FullHD (if it starts in the old resolution, delete the config file or reinstall the game).

Perhaps there are other ways, but editing build.prop seemed to be the easiest.


All actions you perform at your own risk.

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JohnCr2 @ 06/05/2017, 12:21*
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P.S. I hope the touch stopped working temporarily, before the reboot?

The trouble is that thorough. Neither reboot, shutdown, or changing the boot method in the BIOS does not help.

Moreover, the system itself writes that touch input is available, and there is a touchscreen in the HID section of the device manager. But turning it off and on does nothing.

That is, roughly speaking, the controller works, and the matrix itself does not react to anything.

It really seems to be a hard drive problem, but somehow very suddenly - 5 minutes before sleep, with a spontaneous reboot, everything worked, then it was completely chopped off. And all this time, the device lay stupidly in one place, I did not even touch it.

Again, if this is a breakdown - is there any chance of eliminating it yourself? Or just send back to China?

Added: of course, I rarely used the touchscreen (mostly, only during the game in hearthstone), so that could be scored. But still it is somehow unpleasant that in the new device (it’s not even 2 months old) something has already broken and is not working.

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Maybe someone came across this and tell you what to do?

Today, being in sleep mode, the device spontaneously rebooted. After that, the touch screen stopped working. Attempting to reinstall the goodix driver from the driver archive using the link from the header did not help, trying to twist the screen with the unlocked rotation also.

Infa in the internet almost no, the problem is not common. Nevertheless, I am almost sure that this is a software glitch, not a breakdown - everything worked before going to sleep and restart, no more than 10 minutes passed between these events - the device was lying on the table the whole time (did not fall, did not hit and etc.)

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Metal bumper, the back side is glossy plastic. The quality level is "typical china", but it looks live pretty.

They came to me with Ali already when I didn’t have the device, so if someone in Moscow suddenly needs me, write to PM.

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Since we started talking about second-hand, I will allow myself a small offtopic (there is no point in creating a theme for this device in the flea market, it hurts too much):

If one of the owners of GPD Win in Moscow wants to sell it for some reason (did not fit, did not like it, urgently needs money) - I will gladly buy it, write to qms

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Most interesting. In the specifications on the Korean website, Samsung did not find any references, but in general it does not mean anything. It is necessary to check, but now I don’t have wireless charging, the one that was, has long been sold, because The previous smartphone did not support it exactly.


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For those who are interested in it - as it turned out, our device can be charged with fast charging, not only by Samsung's Adaptive Fast Charge technology, but also by the Quick Charge kvalkomovskaya. In other words, the smartphone can be quickly charged from chargers designed for devices with Quick Charge support.
As far as we managed to find out, Samsung in its devices implemented support for two of these technologies at the same time, although the principle of their work is different.

But whether a regular charger can charge devices with Quick Charge, has not figured out.

This is what I’m talking about - Xiaomi Power Bank 2 was donated for 10,000 mAh a day, it has support for Quick Charge 2.0. So from it our device is charged with fast charging, very convenient.


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Actually, I think that soon in our market instead of the Chinese versions of the subject there will be international ones from India, so the problem of checking the firmware will disappear by itself. By the way, the international version and lte band 20 will work, unlike ours.

In this context, the question is - did anyone try to unlock the 20th band through the engineering menu? In principle, this is possible.


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I would not sweat like that at the expense of the firmware. You can upgrade to normal firmware in half an hour, all the more so since the international firmware has already been released, India and Nepal.

And even if there is a knick tick, as it was written above, it does not really matter.


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Rybac57 @ 19.02.17, 11:56*
I understand that the firmware is Hong Kong, since the Russian language is present.

Russian is out of the box and on the Chinese firmware.
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And why the updates can not be installed? Due to the fact that they will come through the air for the Chinese firmware? More somehow nothing comes to mind.

Perhaps they have a device on the Chinese firmware, but with custom recovery and root for the installed gaps. On the routine device, updates do not fly through the air. So they are smearing, they say, we do not recommend updates over the air, blah blah blah, but in fact they simply cannot fly.

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People write, if not difficult, where you can buy with normal Hong Kong firmware in Moscow or in St. Petersburg.

I bought a black device in the gsm10 store in Moscow, the store itself is on the scoop. The firmware was Hong Kong, the knox did not tick.


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Well, I installed a Chinese firmware on my original Hong Kong device, then came back. Since it is possible to sew from Hong Kong to China, it means the opposite too.


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Actually, if you flash a Chinese with this gongog firmware? Is this a ride?

Ride. Hardware is a completely identical device.


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Tick ​​knox or not - it is important only for PCT models, since SC refuse to service tick devices under warranty (but this seems to violate the law on consumer protection and someone managed to challenge the decision of the SC).

Since we have this device a priori not-rst and are served in the Internet shops, we, in general, do not care a lot about knox. If SC Internet-store starts to stink that the device is ticked, you can pretend to be a felt boot and say that, say, you sold me that way.


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* antonbob
Not yet noticed this. But the speakers, what is colloquial, what is the main, so-so.


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* antonbob
Judging by the description, this is not Chinese firmware, but Hong Kong. If the firmware version after the C9000Z goes further HU, then Hong Kong, if CU, then China.


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* stich123456
Repaired Yandex. Disk, now everything should be downloaded normally. Try it.
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Out of the box was the Hong Kong firmware and Knox 0x0. Ticked only after I rutanul device.

I understand that 0x1 out of the box is only for those who bought the device with Chinese firmware by default, and knox tick because the Chinese put on custom recovery to install gaps, and then replace it with stock.

I do not know how to remove knox without root, it seems in no way.

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I bought myself this device in Movskovo online store. Black, so it cost 30k. I am sure that it will continue to be much cheaper, but not scary.

Before that, there was a BlackBerry Priv, and before that many other smartphones, incl. Galaxy Note 5 and Galaxy S7 Edge, so I will mainly compare with them.

Screen
The quality of color, especially white, significantly better than Priv. The colors are richer, white is not dirty gray, but white. In comparison with sgn 5 and s7 edge, it is about the same, but with the correction that Note 5 and, if it does not change, s7 edge in the settings of the screen was a dynamic mode, which I used, and here only adaptive, and muffled " film, photo and main.

By resolution - after 2k screens it seems a bit "loose". If you focus your eyes on individual elements, such as small print, then everything seems fine, the pixels are not particularly visible. But in contrast with the 2k screen, the general feeling of "laxity" remains for some time. I do not know how to put it in words, but I think that you understood the essence.

In general, the screen is very, very good.

Design, ergonomics
When you pick up a smartphone, it seems that you are holding the iPhone 7 Plus. The similarity is enhanced by the fact that the logo on the front and rear panels almost merges with the background, and all the elements on the case - the edging of the "home" button, the edging of the camera, the antennas - all this is matte black to match the case. Yes, and the glass on the front panel is almost the same.
Someone will like this similarity, I don’t, never loved and didn’t buy iPhones (although there was more than one financial opportunity to buy a top model).

Whatever it was, if you abstract from the iPhone, the design is more pleasant than not, although sgn7 and s7 edge, by itself, is prettier.

Build - perfect. Just perfect, otherwise you can't tell. Not the slightest backlash, creaking, all elements fit perfectly, no gaps. Even a note 5 and s7 edge did not cause such a feeling of solidity.

Ergonomics is quite good for a 6 "device. Probably the whole thing is the small thickness of the device. It’s quite possible to use one hand (intercepting, of course), it fits well in the jeans pocket. The side frames are narrow, the bottom one too, be and smaller.

In general, the device feels very positive and somehow even premium, in flagship. If it were not for this iPhone, it would be super.

iron
Everything is very ambiguous with him. Snapdragon 653 seems to be positioned as a SOC of the average price range closer to the budget, built on an outdated 28nm process technology. Its closest counterparts, the Snap 650 and 652, are used in cheap Chinese, like the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro or Mi Max.

That's just the performance he has at the level of last year's flagship CPU, snapdragon 810. I had several devices for 810, incl. Xperia Z3 +, LG G Flex 2 and Lumia 950 XL. All of them in synthetic tests gave less performance than the C9 Pro, in games behaved about the same. And it was terribly warming up and going to throttling after 15 minutes of load, reducing the frequency of the processor and FPS in games by about a third. With the C9 Pro in terms of heating, everything is much more decent.

Test results: Antutu - 85596, after several runs it drops to 80,000, almost no trotting. GeekBench 4: single-core 1509, multi-core 4010.

It seems to be good results, not snap 820, of course, but still very good. Yes? But not quite. Why do we need such performance? For Internet surfing, watching movies and instant messengers, there is enough less powerful hardware. Games? Yes, for them. It would seem that the C9 Pro fits perfectly for them - here you have iron at 810 snap, which is enough for exactly another year, and a huge 6 "screen with optimal FullHD resolution, and a good battery that will give us the opportunity to play for a long time and comfortably But not everything is so rosy.

The fact is that almost all games set the default settings for our device to a minimum, and the resolution is 1400 * 800 or even lower. As a result, on a 6 "screen, such a picture looks just disgusting. And if the settings can still be changed manually, then permission to change without root is impossible. It would seem, okay, what you wanted, it's kind of like budget hardware, where does it play in the native FullHD resolution ... Yes, no! Iron is an excellent solution, which later turned out, but what’s really there, the same BlackBerry Priv, whose 808th snap is guaranteed to be worse than 653rd (tested with synthetics and games), launches everything is at a resolution of 2k by default and in general is quite pulling (although it would be better on FullHD).

This trouble is solved in the only way - by obtaining root-rights. Then you can either manually edit the config files of the games, or, as I did, change in Build.prop ro.product.device and ro.product.model to SM-G930V (this is c7 to snap 820). Why is it more profitable to edit build.prop, and not configs - the same Hearthstone for some reason after reloading ignored the value of the config (did not overwrite, read-ony was set there, but ignored) and again started at 1400 * 800. With the modified build.prop this does not happen.

And voila, all games run in FullHD. And most importantly - they go in this resolution smoothly, without lags, the FPS is kept in most cases at a high level. Certainly no worse than on Priv with its 2k resolution.

Summarizing all the above - the device is powerful enough to be gaming. However, due to artificial restrictions, this potential can be revealed only if you ruin the device. Or play in low resolution, but devices are suitable for this and weaker.

As for the RAM, an average of 3-3.5 GB is free. The first time I see these numbers. It’s hard to say how much it is needed, but one thing is LPDDR3 RAM, not 4. Personally, I would prefer 4GB LPDDR4 than 6GB LPDRR3, but this is a debatable question.

autonomy
It's hard to talk about it yet, the device is only 3 days old. But for now, the following can be said: under the maximum load, it holds about 4 hours of active screen at 100% brightness. With an average load on one of the days, it was 6 hours of the screen at 100% brightness.

In general, rather good than bad.

firmware
At the moment (07.02.2017) there are 2 firmware versions - Hong Kong and native Chinese. In Hong Kong out of the box there are all Google services, it feels similar to the international firmware of the same sgn5 and s7 edge (adjusted for individual software "chips", of course). That is, no Chinese, correct work of notifications and background processes. A remarkable feature is the default setting of Grace Ui, which was a chip of Note 7. Differences from the standard tachviz in the curtain and in the settings menu.

Chinese firmware is very different. It does not have Google services, including And the market, they must be sewn separately (or the seller has already sewn them for you). By default, all third-party applications disable autoloading, it must be resolved manually. There is Chinese like the "yellow pages" (yes, they themselves are in Russian, but for our region they are useless, and they cannot be removed from the dialers and contacts).
The most lousy is that on the Chinese firmware is some kind of Satan with notifications - they do not come if the device is idle for at least half an hour. Moreover, the application can be added to the startup list, prevent it from hibernating, put in exceptions energy saving - still no notification does not come. In particular, I had such a nightmare with whatsapp and skype. Even the use of WakeLock and Push Notification Fixer through root did not help.

Someone in this thread wrote that he had everything on the Chinese firmware with notifications, but personally they didn’t come to me. In general, from the experience of Chinese firmware and MiUi in particular, I can say that this is a typical situation for Chinese firmware - someone comes to the MiUi notifications normally, someone does not come at all.

Summing up - I personally strongly recommend immediately flashing on the Hong Kong firmware, it is as close to international as possible and there are fewer problems with it (someone in this topic had difficulties with tele2, but I think it can be fixed without flashing to China. Personally Me on the megaphone everything is OK).
But of course you decide, I do not impose my opinion on anyone.

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The result - a suitable device. For a price of 30k, it may be a little expensive, but let's be honest - of the compromises compared to the flagships of 2015-2016, there is only a camera in clear minuses, and, in my opinion, the screen resolution for 6 "2k would be more appropriate. Yes iron is worse, but not much, as I wrote above.

Yes, there are not so many alternatives among devices with a 6 "screen. The Galaxy A9 is cheaper and the A9 Pro has more batteries, but they have a significant disadvantage compared to the C9 in my opinion - a glass back cover. A very impractical solution. Xiaomi Mi Max - the device is still of a different price range, it has a noticeably worse screen, and the dimensions are bigger. The Asus Zenfone Ultra is huge, and it costs more. Xperia Z Ultra, HTC One Max and Lumia 1520 are outdated and you can find them only on the second market. There is still some kind of huavei, but I can’t say anything about him.

I will post a link to the Hong Kong and Chinese firmware as a separate post, and I will also write instructions for the root.

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