1650 and 2070 from one generation. This is Turing. But their performance is DIFFERENT. I'm generally surprised that they asked about the choice between them. Budget chip and high performance.

ylymylyq,
Crusibl,
I would have to write for which particular games. Some people only buy tanks / dota / cop items. To do this, picking up a laptop is not difficult for a small amount.

ylymylyq,
here are those on. Also jambs in laptops for almost 100k.Suchyou threw me off. Could it be better then HP Pavilion Gaming 17?

ylymylyq,
clear. So all the same, my choice falls (after our previous discussion) to the Lenovo Legion that you advised me)

Post has been editedAstraVE - 23.08.19, 20:34

How much will there be a noticeable difference between the bundle of 8750H + 1060 Laptop and 9750H + 1660Ti Max-Q? Looking back on the prospect yet.

MultiRW,


I thought about it. apparently I don’t know what I mean.

MultiRW,
despite the fact that the percent in HP itself is weaker in the model. Sadly ..

PL can somehow be permanently changed in firmware in powershell?

Post has been editedAstraVE - 22.08.19, 21:31

MultiRW,
since you are here, can you tell me your opinion about:
https: //www.citilink.r...ile/notebooks/1153762/
https: //www.citilink.r...ile/notebooks/1160306/

Everything is so shitty as I describedylymylyq ?

Moreover, at Dell they write that max-q, but in reviews and tests the GPU operates at frequencies of 1500-1600 MHz, which is not the norm for max-q. This is just the frequency of the laptop version of the chips.

Post has been editedAstraVE - 22.08.19, 21:15

MultiRW,
all of these cars have max-q. 1660Ti max-q is60W

ylymylyq,
yes, legion is a good option too. I could not understand for a long time why I missed it and saw 1060. But I really want 1660ti so that all the same the relevance lasts longer. I watched real tests. 1660ti is 50% stronger in real conditions in games

Post has been editedAstraVE - 22.08.19, 19:56

ylymylyq,
so after all, they are all trimmed to max-q. Only now in 1660 it’s 60W, in 2080 ... I don’t know the exact number, but let's say 100W. And in any case, the 2080 max-q will be stronger than 1660. Not at the desktop level, but clearly noticeably stronger.

Why are people so stupid and go on ryushek because of which it is difficult to choose a normal strict laptop?

Post has been editedAstraVE - 22.08.19, 19:39

I looked at temperature tests. HP with a more powerful i7-9750H in GPU and CPU stress tests heats up to 65-70. Della has temperatures in this mode 90+

Post has been editedAstraVE - 22.08.19, 19:28

ylymylyq,
many such games? Yes ... I would like a percent faster. Not just for games. Sometimes you need it faster. But MSI does NOT like design at all. Directly subconsciously against them. ASUS ROG yes, I like it ... but normal models are very expensive. I am limited in budget and dislike for MSI). Thanks for the arguments and opinion. I will think further (

Post has been editedAstraVE - 22.08.19, 19:15

ylymylyq,
The issue has been resolved with the drive. Cooling is the same for 15 and 17 in essence. The question is only about the edge now. 9300H vs 9750H. The difference is very big.
Oh yes ... there is one plus in favor of HP (which matters to me) is the WiFi module - 1x1 433 for Dell and 2x2 867 for HP.

Post has been editedAstraVE - 22.08.19, 19:07

ylymylyq,
at 9750H + 400MHZ to the frequency and 3MB of cache from above. 1060 is Pascal, and 1660 is Turing. According to the tests, the second one is about one and a half times stronger (I studied the Old).

I updated my post. There is another option with HP. Please take a look.

Posted on 08/22/2019, 18:58:

ylymylyq,
Well ... this is Pavilion 15. And there is 17 model. Invalid comparison. I did not find reviews on 17 (

Found pictures. Yes ... there, in fact, everything is the same as in 15. But then I saw a compartment for the HDD. One plus of the Dell G3 is less. But there remains a percent and the cost is 9k less.

A question for connoisseurs ... are the six i7-9750H cores worth choosing Dell? HP has noticeably more frail 4 cores with a lower frequency and lower cache ...

Post has been editedAstraVE - 22.08.19, 19:02

ylymylyq,
because I want to unload the financial burden and buy on credit: D but it's easier when you buy what is in the shops of your city;)

Thanks for the options, BUT ... big BUT. I really want laptops not painted but strict. I am EXTREMELY enraged by these designs with "shields", "blots" and highlights. Well, there are options with 1060 (noticeably weaker than 1660) and i7-8750 (there is also a significant difference with 9750).

What do you say about thishttps: //www.citilink.r...le/notebooks/1153762/?It seems packed well. And 17 inches all the same. And 16 GB of frames from the box. And 144Hz screen. And more or less strict. Only percent is much weaker (but is this critical in this case?).

From the advantages of DELL:
Cheaper by 9000
100% ability to add HDD, than I will use
Much stronger processor

And the advantages of HP:
From the box, 2 channels of memory on 16GB (in Dell I definitely have to buy more memory)
144Hz larger screen
Larger case for better cooling

That is, it basically comes down to a choice - processor or screen? You can still live without a hard drive (both have 512GB SSDs), and memory can be bought in any case.

Post has been editedAstraVE - 22.08.19, 18:51

prior_ori,
What do you recommend in such a budget?

GL73 for that kind of money with only 1050Ti ... weaker at times

Post has been editedAstraVE - 22.08.19, 15:38

Guys, help me choose. In a budget of 86k I am considering dell g3. Fifteen with i7-9750H and 1660Ti. What do you think? I buy in Volgograd. Price in citylink. I don’t consider the order "otkudato" Only delivery to the store maximum.

Post has been editedAstraVE - 22.08.19, 02:08

bogdanZ-99,
impossible of course. Only thicker versions or the very first limo (7000x) supports this.

Shadow2091,
should I change the router? I clearly asked the question: "either - or." I will ask for an adequate answer. I’ll ask you to ignore my messages.

Post has been editedAstraVE - 07.08.19, 02:18